The rise of Turkey in the Balkans

Jul 11, 2011 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: SETimes news

Turkey has played a moderator role between Serbia and the tripartite BiH presidency.

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It probably all leads back to Turkey. No doubt.

The women in Turkey need to arm themselves...for they beat the crap out of them. The mothers of their own children..they beat and kill.

maddening.

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here. I will open my posts public.

be back in this thread as soon as I put out some fires. LOL

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StellarKnight wrote:
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Greetings!
The Day is Young.
I have been preoccupied with beating up Colin Powel in another thread who came out in support of gay marriges. lol
http://www.topix.com/forum/us/politics/TMD51O...
I was conserned about you....

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Aristofanis wrote:
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I was conserned about you....
Thank you

I have amost fully recovered from last X mas health emergency..

about 70%

how is your health after the eye surgery?

Not that you needed it lol..you see things quite clearly on this thread.

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just took my posts off public

too many trolls lol

“Curious? You should be!”

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just took my posts off public
too many trolls lol
You know that moron Faith?She's an idiot and she thinks she's the voice of America.I think she's some white trash living in a public housing.

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Milena N wrote:
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You know that moron Faith?She's an idiot and she thinks she's the voice of America.I think she's some white trash living in a public housing.
She often hawks me...
and I open a can of whoop ass on her him whoever it is everytime.

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Thank you
I have amost fully recovered from last X mas health emergency..
about 70%
how is your health after the eye surgery?
Not that you needed it lol..you see things quite clearly on this thread.
Now I can see things the way Humans deserve to see,

Sharp accurate and lots more colourful,
I can now detect my friend BC from Cyprus behind his writings,

I have a message can you please passed it on to him?

Please tell him Not to Visit INDONISIA at all,
Over there the penalty for masturbation is death by hang!

Tell him if he wants to come to Sydney is welcome but for god's sake...

Never step his foot to Indonesia!

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StellarKnight wrote:
just took my posts off public
too many trolls lol
Would you be able please to tell me why in OHIO U.S.A women cannot wear shiny shoes?
It is a law bu why?

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Milena N wrote:
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You know that moron Faith?She's an idiot and she thinks she's the voice of America.I think she's some white trash living in a public housing.
it is a bonified troll with access at a low level of personal information on people.

probably a FAT TSA agent lol lonely on a computer who posts after watching kiddie porn.

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Would you be able please to tell me why in OHIO U.S.A women cannot wear shiny shoes?
It is a law bu why?
dunno.. perhaps the reflection interferes with the surveillence drones they have now allowed to fly over america

lol

if so? Shiny shoes for everybody.

Hell.. put mirrors on the shoe tops.

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Milena N wrote:
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You know that moron Faith?She's an idiot and she thinks she's the voice of America.I think she's some white trash living in a public housing.
LOOK at this,
In Vermont second populous state of America,

Women must have a written permission from their husbands in order to place dentures in their mouths....!

What a heck?

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dunno.. perhaps the reflection interferes with the surveillence drones they have now allowed to fly over america
lol
if so? Shiny shoes for everybody.
Hell.. put mirrors on the shoe tops.
Come on man...you know better than that!

Is it since shiny shoe acting like a mirror and her undies can be reflected to by passer’s causing traffic congestion?
What about those preferred no undies? What those shiny shoes will be shown off?
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We were never Bulgarians Milena, our language is south Slavic one - a Macedonian language, the modern Bulgarian (who too is south Slavic) is similar to the Macedonian language, and not similar at all to the so called "protoBulgarian".
REALLY??????????
LET'S SEE!!
READ THIS.

Vetserne Novosti: The "Macedonians" are Bulgarians in Skopje

The majority of the Slavs of Skopje are Bulgarians, now writes the Serbian newspaper "Novosti Vetserne." The newspaper reports that over the past four months, 2,200 Slavs of Skopje expressed and received Bulgarian citizenship.

The newspaper claims that about one million Slavs of the State of Skopje have acquired Bulgarian citizenship.

"This means that half the population are Bulgarians in Skopje, since it is known that the former Yugoslav republic has two million inhabitants," says the newspaper.

According to analyst Predrag Simic Serbia, the Slavs of FYROM passports take Bulgaria to have greater rights and protection in the EU which allows free entry to European citizens, says the Bulgarian Focus features.

"The ends are under great pressure. It is a country divided national, as recent murders, "said
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Serbian newspaper "Novosti Vetserne."

Ultimate Source List of Internet about the Bulgarian origins of Slavs in FYROM

http://history-of-macedonia.com/wordpress/200...

Macedonia in 1834 : Slavs spoke a Bulgarian dialect

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FYROM'S POPULATION ARE BULGARIANS IN ORIGIN,GENETICALLY,AND LINGUSTICALLY.
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You seem to be afraid of Kimon Georgiev, you have involved yourselves too much with him and do not want to give autonomy to Pirin Macedonia. That a Macedonian consciousness HAS NOT YET DEVELOPED AMONG THE POPULATION IS OF NO ACCOUNT. No such consciousness existed in Byelorussia either when we proclaimed it a Soviet Republic. However, later it was shown that a Byelorussian people did in fact exist.

[Stalin to Bulgarian Delegation (G. Dimitrov, V. Korarov, T. Kostov) on 7 June 1946]
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Macedonian History : Indisputable evidence on the Bulgarian Origins of FYROM’s Slavs based on contemporary Bibliography.

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The town of Monastir, capital of the vilayet of Monsastir, lies just about half way between Bulgarian and Greek territory. North, the majority of Macedonians are Bulgar, south the majority are Hellenes. The villages meet, cross, and mix in the Monastir vilayet. The reason, therefore, we hear so much about disturbances at Monastir is not because the Turks there are more wicked than Turks elsewhere, but because there is a persistent feud between Greek and Bulgarian political religionists.
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Monastir is an undistinguished, motley sort of town of some 60,000 nhabitants, 14,000 of them Greek, 10,000 of them Bulgarian, four or five thousand Albanian, two or three thousand Jew, and the rest Turk.

“Pictures From The Balkans” by John Foster Fraser (published in 1906), chapter 20.

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But who are the Macedonians? You will find Bulgarians and Turks who call themselves Macedonians, you find Greek Macedonians, there are Servian Macedonians, and it is possible to find Roumanian Macedonians. You will NOT, however, find a single Christian Macedonian who is not a Servian, a Bulgarian, a Greek, or a Roumanian. They all curse the Turk, and they love Macedonia. But it is Greek Macedonia, or Bulgarian Macedonia, and their eyes flame with passion, whilst their fingers seek the triggers of their guns

“Pictures From The Balkans” by John Foster Fraser (published in 1906), PAGE 5

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They visited the Bulgarian villages, levied contributions, and stored arms, so that on an appointed day there might be a rising against the Turk, and Bulgarian Macedonians be liberated from their oppressors for ever. Naturally they were greeted as heroes;

“Pictures From The Balkans” by John Foster Fraser (published in 1906), PAGE 8

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i have some hope that in years to come the inhabitants will think less of their Turkish, Bulgarian or Greek Origin and a great deal more with the fact that they are all Macedonians.

“Pictures From The Balkans” by John Foster Fraser (published in 1906), PAGE 17

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There was petty persecution; Bulgarian Christians crossed from Macedonia into Bulgaria proper and told their tales of woe. Then followed raids by armed bands of Bulgarians into Turkey. In time associations were formed in Bulgaria and secret committees in Macedonia to aid the Bulgarian cause. In time came a congress and the formation of the ” High Committee,” having for its object the securing of political autonomy for Macedonia, and pledged, in order to secure it, to take any action ” which may be dictated by circumstances.” The consequence was that peaceful Bulgarians in Macedonia were forced into the revolutionary movement, compelled to secrete arms, made to contribute to the maintenance of the “bands,” and were put to death if they reported to the Turks, or were massacred by the Turks because they were revolutionaries. However oppressive the Turks had been, however zealous were good Bulgarians to save their fellow – countrymen and co- religionists in Macedonia from oppression, the revolutionary movement, as it is in Macedonia to-day, is the outcome of terror and murder.

“Pictures From The Balkans” by John Foster Fraser (published in 1906), PAGE 179

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Basil II of Constantinople in 1014 decided to end once and for all a war that had already lasted forty years. To break the spirit of the hated Bulgarians, he blinded all but 150 of 15,000 prisoners. The “lucky” 150 were blinded in one eye only. Every 100 blind men were guided by a one-eyed leader back to the Bulgarian capital of Ohdrid, whose ruler, Samuel , had received word that his army was returning to him. Samuel hastened to meet his men and found himself staring at thousand of helpless blind men. The sight was fatal. Samuel suffered a stroke on the spot and died two days later.(Basil II received the surname Bulgaroktonos, meaning “slayer of Bulgarians”,)

Isaac Asimov’s Book of Facts By Isaac Asimov, page 225
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They population of Uskioub, consisting of Arnouts, Jews, Armenians, Zinzars, Greeks, Bulgarians and Servians, amounts to upwards of twelve thousand

“Travels in European Turkey, in 1850: Through Bosnia, Servia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Thrace,…” By Edmund Spencer, page 28, Published 1851

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As the day was drawing to a close, we descended into the vast plain of Bittoglia, where we had to ford several unimportant streams rushing onward to the sluggish waters of the karasu,..With the exception of a few Greeks and Zinzars, the congregation consisted of Bulgarians, EASILY DISTINGUISHED by their short, thick-set figures, honest open countenances, and the unvarying costume, we before described

“Travels in European Turkey, in 1850: Through Bosnia, Servia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, Thrace,…” By Edmund Spencer, page 46, Published 1851

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Those of the vilayets of Adrianople and Macedonia , where, at the recent census, two-thirds of the inhabitants were found to be Bulgarians

“The Balkan Peninsula” by E. Laveleye, 1887, Page 251

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The unfortunate Armenians are at the present time most piteously oppressed and pillaged by the Kurds, the Circassians, and more especially by Turkish functionaries.‘Their condition is very similar to that of the Bulgarians in Macedonia

“The Balkan Peninsula” by E. Laveleye, 1887, Page 305

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But having lived now with the Montenegrins, the Serbs, and the Bulgarian ‘Macedonians,‘ I clung to the idea that somehow or other I must get right into Albanian territories

“The Burden of the Balkans” By M. Edith Durham 1863-1944, page 207

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Vatatzes was now quick to perceive the high tide in his efforts and decided to sail with the current. He ventured north to take Melnik, and continued northeastward to capture Stenimachus, Tzapaena and other places in the upper valley of the Maritsa, which became the boundary between Bulgaria and the Nicene empire, all without a struggle,“as though he was taking over an inheritance from his father”. He pushed on into the far northwest, taking Velbuzd (Kustendil) on the upper strymon; moved south taking skopje and trip in teh vardar region; then through Veles, Prilep and Pelagonia in the plains of Monastir; and eastward again to the Vardar where he took Prosek. It was a triumphant progress from beginning to end, but the end was not yet. In less than three months Vatatzes had overrun all Sourthwestern Bulgaria.

The Papacy and the Levant, 1204-1571 By Kenneth Meyer Setton, page 62

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Theodore Ducas began his spectacular reign over Epirus by an attack upon the Bulgarians (1216) from whom he seized the important towns of Ochrida and Prilep, extending his northeastern border to the plains of Monastir

The Papacy and the Levant, 1204-1571 By Kenneth Meyer Setton, page 43

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In Monastir also, the majority of the inhabitants is Bulgarian, and Bulgarian is the language in the market

“We, the Macedonians”, by Constantine Stephanove

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and Uskub, the great majority of the population is Slavic,… the middle ages until 1913 called themselves and were called by their neighbors Bulgarians

The Journal of International Relations By george h. blakeslee

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Si la Bulgarie, après beaucoup d’hésitations et non sans regret, a fait le grand sacrifice d’abandonner Uskub, dont la population est bulgare

Documents diplomatiques français (1871-1914). By France. Commission de publication des documents relatifs aux origines de la guerre de 1914

Translation: If Bulgaria, after many hesitations and not without regret, did the great sacrifice and give up Uskub, whose population is Bulgarian
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The writer who has frequently visited Monastir, can add his to mony to these pronouncements. The population of Monastir is Turkish, Bulgarian and Vlach

“The Quarterly Review” Published 1872, J. Murray

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Krushevo:
“In the house where the power resided, a BULGARIAN flag was put“: A wire of the Serbian cunsul in Bitola to the Moinister of the Foreign
Affairs of Serbia, 13 August 1903.

(Quote after Ilindenski Sbornik, 1903 – 1953, Skopje 1953, p. 40.)

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Tagepost 15 August 1903:
“The Bitola pashalik has been took over by general common
movement. Krushevo has saluted the BULGARIAN banner and
wants temporary to proclaim a repub

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