Who does Alexander the Great belong to? by Hajrudin Somun*

Greek Islander wrote:

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Every inch of free Greek soil is a victory for us and a defeat for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_Greece....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:The_sortie_...
Liberation Of Thessaloniki 1912
http://history-of-macedonia.com/wp-content/up...
Liberation Of Ioannina 1912
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ioannina_li...
Liberation Of Chios 1912
http://www.chianfed.org/mos/content/view/304/...
POOR, IDIOTIC MONGOLOGLU....DIDN'T THEY TEACH YOU ABOUT THOSE THINGS IN YOUR ARTICLE 301 TURKISH "SCHOOLS" ???????

Really?
Give a name of a war you have won without European help?

Turks saved 45 States and more than 200 races under their 3 empires from Beijing to Wien in last 2.000 years..

All the states and races kept their;
-Religions
-Nationality
-Languages
-Traditions

alive..

If the Turks wanted to convert everybody or kill them all who could stop them?
Noone..
Even Alexander the Macedonian killed all the inhabitants of the conquered lands and citizens including women children,olds and pregnants,babies to none....

The greatest thing Turks taught the world was JUSTICE....

This why even USA could not deny the right of the Turks and put ""Sultan Suleyman the Magnificent's relief on the walls of capitol Hill in Washington D.C."""

If a human from 17.000.000 Sqr. Kms and 3 seas wants to make a critisim to the Turks about humanity he has to look at the Mirror first and pray for the Turks for saving his race,language,existancy,religi on,religion and traditions...

Only this contribution to the Humannity is enought for the World..

Prof. Dr. Ismet Giritli goes to Italy for a convention..

There were 2 Greek and Armenian professors too.In eery luch they say""You the Turks sucked our bloods for 450-800 years,you have sqeuzed us for centuries""" """

They have harrassed him everyday with such kind of insults and labellings..

At last Prof.Giritli invited the Italian Convention director Proffesor to lunch to show him,them...

In luch the two Proffs started to accuse and a kind of abusing the Prof.Giritli again.

Italian Proffessor asked the Greek one""How many years have Greeks stayed under Turkish mandatory""
He answered""450 years""

The Italian asked again

""What language you are speaking and what is your religion now"

"he answered""Greek and Orthodox Christian""

He asked the same questions to the armenian one and received

""armenian language and Gregorian Christian""

answers...

he said"

""If you would stay under Italian mandatory just for only 200 years you would be converted Katolism amd speaking Italian not Greek or Armenian..""" "

""You have thank the Turks for their justice and generosity"""

heheheeh

OguzTolga wrote:

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KOINE was a ""lingua Franga""idiot...

And Greek, MALAKA !!

OguzTolga wrote:

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KOINE was a ""lingua Franga""idiot...

It was made so by the conquests of the Macedonian Greek - Alexander the Great - IDIOT!

It's like trying to educate a monkey!

Hahahahahahaha!!!!

OguzTolga wrote:

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Really?
Give a name of a war you have won without European help?.........

hahahahaha
MALAKA !!

Greek Islander wrote:

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Yes! The name Alexander Of Macedonia speaks for itself but what do you have to do with Macedonia?
The region where your country FYROMslavia exists today was called Paeonia in ancient times...NOT Macedonia.
Your language is basically a Bulgarian Slavic dialect brought into the Balkans in the 7th century A.D. nearly 1,000 years after the deather of Alexander.
Your cities and towns have Slavic, Turkish and Albanian names and NOT the Greek names used by Ancient Macedonians.
You name your children strange Slavic names such as Boran, Goran, Zoran, Lluupco and Igor and NOT the Greek names which the Ancient Macedonians had.
Your ancestors were converted to Christianity in the 9th century A.D. while the Macedonians were converted by St. Paul in the first century A.D.
The Slavs of Skopje can't even read a single Ancient Macedonian inscription without a Greek translater to help them.
The Bible only mentions Greeks and Jews living in Macedonia....No Slavs!
So, What is Macedonian about you?

The Current State of FYMR belongs to Albanian its original inhabitators, as for history let it stay where it started- with that of Alexander of Macedon. We can have many arguments about this issue, but one thing that is more clear than anything else is that the Slavs done have much hisotry or ground to grasp on the history of Macedonia or the Lands of the Albanians.

The Lie Detector wrote:

aleksandar king of Macedonia speaks for its self...no greek crap needed here....beg for more cash gayreeks...

You are broken (lie detector my ass), you need repair

go to a repair shop or recycle yourself before spread other lies

Mr K wrote:

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You are broken (lie detector my ass), you need repair
go to a repair shop or recycle yourself before spread other lies

Alexander the Great was another lie...
How could he find time to built up an empire while he was on the road for 11-12 years..From Balkans to Egypt,egypt to India and return heheheh

From Macedonia to Egypt

3806 km

From Egypt to India
6740 Kms

6740 +3806 =10.546kms

10.546 kms ./. 5 kms a day =2.109 days

2109 days ./. 365 days a year=6 years nearly

From India(Delhi)to Macedonia 7800Kms

7800 ./. 5 Kms = 1.560 days
1.560 ./. 365 =4.5 years

Wars took 1 year

Total
6 years to egypt and India
4.5years to come back
1 year for wars

Did he took his army by Turkish Airlines Cargo Aircrafts?

How could he find time to built an empire?

Like everything Greek,The Empire of the Megas Gay is another lie...

He just went and came back before he he dies of A.I.D.S..

hehehehe!

even Oguz sounds like Ogu, Monkey language is it!

hahahaha!

Ogu Ogu Ogu.

We are the oldest nation in the planet but we don't make TV spots or stupid slogans for it!
And yes, "Only the sun is older than Macedonia" but even the American nation is older than the Monkeydonian tribe!

-The treaties of San Stefano (1878), London (1913), Versailles (1919), the Congress of Berlin (1878) and others; all of which dealt with the Macedonian question, made no reference even to small group declaring themselves as "ethnic Macedonians", only Bulgarians, Serbs, Greeks, Muslims and other minorities.
- No "Makedonski race".

-Richard von Mach - Der Machtbereich des bulgarischen Exarchats in der Türkei. Leinz Tcherkasky ethnographie 1877
– NO "Makedonski race".

-Official Turkish Statistic Ethnicity of Macedonia Philippopoli 1881
- NO "Makedonski race".

-Prof. G. Wiegland - Die Nationalen Bestrebungen der Balkansvölker. Leipzig 1898
-NO "makedonski race"

-Vassil Kantcheff - Macedonia Ethnicity and Statistic - 1900
- NO "Makedonski race".

-Turkish census of Hilmi Pasha for Thessaloniki, Monastiri, Scopje 1904
- NO "Makedonski race".

-Journal "Le Temps" Paris 1905
- NO "Makedonski" race

-Turkish census of Hilmi Pasha for the European Ottoman provinces 1906.
- NO "Makedonski race".

-Leipzig - Neuchatel, 1906
- No "Makedonski race".

-Italian, Amadore Virgili, 1907 in "La questiona roma rumeliota"
- NO “Makedonski race”

-Leon Dominian - The frontiers of Language and Nationality in Europe. Published for the American Geographical Society of New York 1917
– NO "Makedonski race".

1926 - The League of Nations (forerunner to UN set up after WWI) NEVER mentions any Macedonian race/ ethnicity.

WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU????
WHERE WERE YOU "MAKEDONSKI" ANCESTORS????
WERE THEY HIDDING??

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OguzTolga wrote:

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Alexander the Great was another lie...
How could he find time to built up an empire while he was on the road for 11-12 years..From Balkans to Egypt,egypt to India and return heheheh
From Macedonia to Egypt
3806 km
From Egypt to India
6740 Kms
6740 +3806 =10.546kms
10.546 kms ./. 5 kms a day =2.109 days
2109 days ./. 365 days a year=6 years nearly
From India(Delhi)to Macedonia 7800Kms
7800 ./. 5 Kms = 1.560 days
1.560 ./. 365 =4.5 years
Wars took 1 year
Total
6 years to egypt and India
4.5years to come back
1 year for wars
Did he took his army by Turkish Airlines Cargo Aircrafts?
How could he find time to built an empire?
Like everything Greek,The Empire of the Megas Gay is another lie...
He just went and came back before he he dies of A.I.D.S..

OguzTolga wrote:

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KOINE was a ""lingua Franga""idiot...

It was not the lingua franca in the Ottoman period!!!

Koine was standardized Greek which was based on the dialect of Attiki (Athens Area). From that time on the Greeks used Koine (common) instead of their regional Greek dialects just as modern nations do today.

Even the Turks "standardized" their Mongol vocalizations and even used the Latin Alphabet and called these sounds "Modern Turkish"

Wow, u are truely stupid. Greek was the "lingua franca" of the Eastern Mediterannean until the Arabic conquest of the Middle East.

Before the Arab conquest the people of the Middle East used Greek for trade or religious purposes while also using their own languages, Coptic (Egyptian) Aramaic etc. After the Arab conquest the people of the Middle East spoke Arabic.

The Greeks however always and ONLY used their Greek language.
There has NEVER BEEN A TIME SINCE THE BEGINING OF RECORDED when the Hellenic language wasn't spoken by the native people of the Aegean Sea and Cyprus...u can bang your head against the wall, hold ur breath, or jump up and down but you can't change history.


It was used as the Official language of the Emperors in Constantinople, as the language of the Church and of the common people from Southern Italy to Cyprus.

Medieval and Modern Greek

ROBERT BROWNING
PROFESSOR EMERITUS OF CLASSICS
BIRKBECK COLLEGE, UNIVERSITY OF LONDON
preface to New Editon vii

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The Homeric poems were written down in more or less their present form in the 7th century B.C.Since then Greek has enjoyed a continuous tradition down to the present day. Change there has certainly been. But there has been no break like that of Latin and the Romance Laguages. Ancient Greek is not a foreign language to Greeks of today as Anglo-Saxon is to modern Englishmen. THE ONLY OTHER LANGUAGE WHICH ENJOYS A COMPARABLE CONTINUITY OF TRADITION IS CHINESE.

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Modern Greek is the descendant of Ancient Greek. The ancient dialects that were spoken in different areas of Greece up to the 4th century BC were gradually superseded by a form of the language that became known as Elliniki Koine (common Greek), which was based on the Attic dialect of Athens.

This form of Greek Koine evolved through a series of historical changes that include the occupation by the Romans and the period of the Roman Empire, the birth of the Byzantium and the historical transition from Constantine I to Mehmet the Conqueror and the Fall of Constantinople to the birth of Modern Greek spanning from the Ottoman Empire and the Turkish occupation to the modern Greek state.

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Poor Mongol, you really like being humiliated, don't you?

Alexander the Greak belongs to history. It would be foolish for nationalities existing today to fight over him. His deeds forever shaped the course of history by linking east and west, by bringing the Graeco-Roman world into contact with the Hindu-Buddhist world, and by creating an empire in which Greek languange and culture would become the same international currency that the English language and American concepts are today.

His concept of extending citizenship to useful members of conquered nationalities, when adopted by the Romans, enabled the Roman empire to endure for centuries by absorbing the best of foreign talent. Trade routes created by his conquests were later used by Christian Europe. Such trade and the riches of the Indies fired the imagination of Columbus, and indirectly led to the discovery of the Americas.

Mr K wrote:

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You are broken (lie detector my ass), you need repair
go to a repair shop or recycle yourself before spread other lies

Hay People , have you noticed that most of the stupid topics on this forum are started by the same Mentaldonian Girl ,from Australia ?

poor brainwashed Girl just copies the same crap now for 3 years .. how desperate ?

any way these are all her fake accounts .

add Filip II Reincarnated to the list

add xxx delete Grexit
Knittelfeld, Austria to the list

add Rosetta stone to the list .

Add DARK GREEK to the list ...

QTmakGirl is 100% MENTALDONIAN spinster with 5 cats
these are all hers

liedetecter , Alpha pegasii ,Macedonianevergreek ,Filipreancarnated

add another fake channel of the QTMonkeyGirl
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“Grik Adonis”

Since: Jun 12
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add,,,, MacedoniaNEVERGr eek
Since: Jan 12
Location hidden

all these channels belong to the same desperate FYROMONKEY , from Australia QTmacGirl . she is a pathological liar , with 100 fake channels on YT
and Topix ...
she thinks this somehow will make Bulgarians in to Macedonians

Alpfa pegasii
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Since: Jan 12

BOREC
Brisbane, Australia

GREECES DIRTY SECRETS
Brisbane, Australia

The Lie Detector
Melbourne, Australia

REPUBLIKA MAKEDONIA
Sydney, Australia

Miss QT Makedonka
Nambour, Australia

Nipsy
Sydney, Australia

THE MACEDONIAN KING
Sydney, Australia

I-AM-ETHIOPIAN-H ELL-ARSE
Sydney, Australia

Miss Macedonia-007
Sydney, Australia

FYROMSKI
Sydney, Australia

Elenia stamos daughter
Australia

Nipsy
Sydney, Australia

Miss QT Makedonka
Nambour, Australia
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QTmakGirl
QTMacGirl
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ItsGreekyGeeky
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+ about 20 more

Vivek Golikeri wrote:

Alexander the Greak belongs to history. It would be foolish for nationalities existing today to fight over him. His deeds forever shaped the course of history by linking east and west, by bringing the Graeco-Roman world into contact with the Hindu-Buddhist world, and by creating an empire in which Greek languange and culture would become the same international currency that the English language and American concepts are today.
His concept of extending citizenship to useful members of conquered nationalities, when adopted by the Romans, enabled the Roman empire to endure for centuries by absorbing the best of foreign talent. Trade routes created by his conquests were later used by Christian Europe. Such trade and the riches of the Indies fired the imagination of Columbus, and indirectly led to the discovery of the Americas.

Alexander the Great certainly does belong to History, and anyone with even basic knowledge of this History would know that he and the Ancient Macedonians were definitely Greek. This truth is being challenged and blatantly forged by some Slavs and other 'revisionists' in our area for patently POLITICAL reasons and to lay claim to future territorial ambitions. That is why we Greeks will NEVER let this 'revisionism' stand, nor will any other educated, informed people in the civilized world.

Unfortunately, in todays world, political expediency often trumps Historical Truth when certain, so called 'political interests' are concerned and major powers are willing to turn a blind eye to this fraud being perpetrated in the Balkans.

We have absolutely no problem when people celebrate the positive things associated with Alexander or any other Ancient Greeks, our problem is with the DENIAL of the Historical truth and the attempt to replace it with a fraudulent, unhistorical narrative by our northern neighbors.

OguzTolga wrote:

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Alexander the Great was another lie...
How could he find time to built up an empire while he was on the road for 11-12 years..From Balkans to Egypt,egypt to India and return heheheh
From Macedonia to Egypt
3806 km
From Egypt to India
6740 Kms
6740 +3806 =10.546kms
10.546 kms ./. 5 kms a day =2.109 days
2109 days ./. 365 days a year=6 years nearly
From India(Delhi)to Macedonia 7800Kms
7800 ./. 5 Kms = 1.560 days
1.560 ./. 365 =4.5 years
Wars took 1 year
Total
6 years to egypt and India
4.5years to come back
1 year for wars
Did he took his army by Turkish Airlines Cargo Aircrafts?
How could he find time to built an empire?
Like everything Greek,The Empire of the Megas Gay is another lie...
He just went and came back before he he dies of A.I.D.S..

Hi moulos!!!
Mouloi don't understand how Alexandros did that!!!
Big Malakas,and boudalas!!!!
Back to school!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

Perseption and logic is simple if you alow your self to understand. But if you have such a large ego and arogance toward logic, you will never see the truth.
Many countrys today have possesion of land other than their original ancient land was. We exept such possetion, don't we? And in time that new land is setlled in by the inviding force.
So was the new land of Peonia part of history, become Macedonia. Now, if you do not agrea with that, then Egean Macedonia is not part of Greece any more, and we will release Peonia to Peonians, if they chose to have their land back.
The question now is, can you find Peonians?
We Macedonians are stil around and we ask, Very nicely, give us our land back. It does not belong to you any more. You used it enough.

samostojna MK wrote:

Perseption and logic is simple if you alow your self to understand. But if you have such a large ego and arogance toward logic, you will never see the truth.
Many countrys today have possesion of land other than their original ancient land was. We exept such possetion, don't we? And in time that new land is setlled in by the inviding force.
So was the new land of Peonia part of history, become Macedonia. Now, if you do not agrea with that, then Egean Macedonia is not part of Greece any more, and we will release Peonia to Peonians, if they chose to have their land back.
The question now is, can you find Peonians?
We Macedonians are stil around and we ask, Very nicely, give us our land back. It does not belong to you any more. You used it enough.

http://www.defencenet.gr/defence/index.php...
FyroMonkeys is fake nation and kleftes!

Vivek Golikeri wrote:

Alexander the Greak belongs to history. It would be foolish for nationalities existing today to fight over him..........

SlavoSkopians deny his Greekness for they have to defend a lie: they are Macedonians.

And Macedonia. Then no nation should monopolize Macedonia's name.

Vivek Golikeri wrote:

Alexander the Greak belongs to history. It would be foolish for nationalities existing today to fight over him..........

Do you think that SlavoSkopians could not lie about Alexander's doubtless Greekness while insisting to be called Macedonians ??

Greece Forum wrote:

Who does Alexander the Great belong to? by Hajrudin Somun*

Philosopher Robert Todd Carroll suggests the following criteria for a topic to warrant the term pseudohistory:

That the work uncritically accepts myths and anecdotal evidence without skepticism.

That the work has a political, religious, or other ideological agenda.

That a work is not published in an academic journal or is otherwise not adequately peer reviewed.

That the evidence for key facts supporting the work's thesis is:

selective and ignores contrary evidence or explains it away; or
speculative; or
controversial; or
not correctly or adequately sourced; or
interpreted in an unjustifiable way; or
given undue weight; or
taken out of context; or
distorted, either innocently, accidentally, or fraudulently.

That competing (and simpler) explanations or interpretations for the same set of facts, which have been peer reviewed and have been adequately sourced, have not been addressed.

That the work relies on one or more conspiracy theories or hidden-hand explanations, when the principle of Occam's razor would recommend a simpler, more prosaic and more plausible explanation of the same fact pattern.

About 20 Bulgarian intellectuals, including three originating from Skopje, sent a petition to the UNESCO, asking the world organization to stop the TV Skopje constantly abusing the Bulgarian language, history and culture of Bulgaria. "For 65 years spreading lies all over the world that there is a separate 'Macedonians' language, Macedonians Macedonian history and culture." Vardar Macedonia (Varntarska Makentonia) area which is today Macedonia has always been a geographical term with single Bulgarian culture and Bulgarian history. There is much historical evidence confirming this position, "says the letter. Bulgarian professors argue that every day in Macedonia destroyed historical monuments, graves of soldiers, churches and many other items related to Bulgaria. In their complaint even mention that they stole their Skopjans folk music events, the Bulgarian kings, heroes, and battles the rebels and declared as 'Macedonians'

samostojna MK wrote:

Perseption and logic is simple if you alow your self to understand. But if you have such a large ego and arogance toward logic, you will never see the truth.
Many countrys today have possesion of land other than their original ancient land was. We exept such possetion, don't we? And in time that new land is setlled in by the inviding force.
So was the new land of Peonia part of history, become Macedonia. Now, if you do not agrea with that, then Egean Macedonia is not part of Greece any more, and we will release Peonia to Peonians, if they chose to have their land back.
The question now is, can you find Peonians?
We Macedonians are stil around and we ask, Very nicely, give us our land back. It does not belong to you any more. You used it enough.

http://www.youtube.com/watch...