Villeneuve 'never given up hope' of F1 return.

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Formula 1>> Villeneuve 'never given up hope' of F1 return. Tuesday, 17th June 2008 1997 F1 World Champion-cum-sportscar ace keen to return to the grand prix grid - should the right opportunity present itself... ...

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Jun 20, 2008
 
I like to see Jacques test for Ferrari, I don't think he would though??
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Jun 26, 2008
 
Jacques seems to be a very proud, almost to fault. He refuses any back door entry ideas. I mean, he most likely could easily test drive for almost any F1 team. If he still has the magic and speed, it would surely show up in a testing position. All he would have to do then, is bide his time until one of the two drivers wasn't carrying his share, and his chance could appear. But, that's not Jacques Villeneuve. He also was doing a pretty good job at Bill Davis Racing in Nascar, but lacked sponsor money. JV's wealth is reported and documented at over $200,000.00 US. He could have easily anted up for the race money out of his pocket at BDRacing, But, that's not Jacques Villeneuve.
He wants to drive and be treated as the champion he has achieved through his past driving efforts. I respect his ideals and hope his past reputation will get him through the front door of racing so I can watch my favourite driver go on to greener pastures, but if it doesn't. Jacques please as one of many devoted fans, get back on the track anyway you can. We miss you, and time is of essence.

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Jun 27, 2008
 
sessions wrote:
Jacques seems to be a very proud, almost to fault. He refuses any back door entry ideas. I mean, he most likely could easily test drive for almost any F1 team. If he still has the magic and speed, it would surely show up in a testing position. All he would have to do then, is bide his time until one of the two drivers wasn't carrying his share, and his chance could appear. But, that's not Jacques Villeneuve. He also was doing a pretty good job at Bill Davis Racing in Nascar, but lacked sponsor money. JV's wealth is reported and documented at over $200,000.00 US. He could have easily anted up for the race money out of his pocket at BDRacing, But, that's not Jacques Villeneuve.
He wants to drive and be treated as the champion he has achieved through his past driving efforts. I respect his ideals and hope his past reputation will get him through the front door of racing so I can watch my favourite driver go on to greener pastures, but if it doesn't. Jacques please as one of many devoted fans, get back on the track anyway you can. We miss you, and time is of essence.
The only back door entry jack is into nobody wants to talk about..... Jack as one of you many non fans, f*** off and go sing in your pub. By the way his past reputation sucks, he's an arrogant dickhead with a big mouth.
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Jun 27, 2008
 
redneck bob,
Well, he sure has your number. When and if he lands something in Nascar right in the heart of redneck nation you'll be fit to be tied. Can't completely understand your mentality. If you hate someone, why will you go to all the trouble to impart criticism about that person or his fans with such lack of decorum.
You seem to even know about his pub, his singing, and his opinions. Jacques, bless his soul must really get under your skin.
Well, in that case as much as Nascar isn't my choice for his future, I wish him well there. Mark my words, if he lands a ride, he will cause your good old boys some trouble. Knock him and his lifestyle all you wish, but he does know his way around a racetrack.
Who's your favourite ? Let me know, so if JV blows by him I can smile.
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Jun 27, 2008
 
Redneck Bob is a Limey transplant and you know the Brits, better than everyone and know everything!
Take it where it's coming from...

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Jun 28, 2008
 
Say What wrote:
Redneck Bob is a Limey transplant and you know the Brits, better than everyone and know everything!
Take it where it's coming from...
A limey transplant?????...say what!!!!!! shucks you canandians are all dumber than I first thought. There I was thinking it was just one or two of you, but it seems it's a freaking epidemic. Get your facts straight sunshine, Limey transplant my ass.

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Jun 28, 2008
 
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redneck bob,
Well, he sure has your number. When and if he lands something in Nascar right in the heart of redneck nation you'll be fit to be tied. Can't completely understand your mentality. If you hate someone, why will you go to all the trouble to impart criticism about that person or his fans with such lack of decorum.
You seem to even know about his pub, his singing, and his opinions. Jacques, bless his soul must really get under your skin.
Well, in that case as much as Nascar isn't my choice for his future, I wish him well there. Mark my words, if he lands a ride, he will cause your good old boys some trouble. Knock him and his lifestyle all you wish, but he does know his way around a racetrack.
Who's your favourite ? Let me know, so if JV blows by him I can smile.
Hey sessions, I dislike nascar intensely, it's stupid, and I never watch it. As for knowing all about JV, well I've been an F1 fan for 30 odd years and make a point of actually acummulating info on drivers. So it has nothing to do with him "having my number" or "getting under my skin" but hey if that gets your juices flowing go for it. As for the great comment about him "giving the good old boys trouble", when he was in F1, in his last 9 odd seasons he could not even give the bad drivers troubled, I fail to see him doing anything of worth. I must say I did enjoy seeing Audi f*** him and his team over at Le Mans, and proved the point as to why I dislike him (I don't hate him, I can't, I don't know him personally). He was like a spoilt brat on the podium, sulking and miserable faced just becasue he did not win. It was a showing of bad sportsmanship, he even stepped away when the champagne started flowing. it's something he has shown his entire life, bad sportsman. When he stopped winning in F1 it was everyone's fault but his own, he was pissed because ferrari, who loved his daddy, never even gave him a second look to drive for them. Wonder why?????
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Jun 28, 2008
 
Redneck Bob,
Doesn't take a whole lot of wondering if you've followed for 30 years. I too have been around for those kind of numbers and some.
At Ferarri the old man (which it had been said, also adored JV) died before JV hit the scene, plus Michael had imbedded his arrogant ass there, so Jacques had a snowballs chance in hell to ever drive for the red cars while the cheat-meister held the seat.
Arguing about his performance in the sub-standard Honda's isn't worth
my energy. Even the great MS couldn't do squat in a Ferarri the year of the Indy 6 car race, He just managed to beat two Jordans and two Menardi's.
Ruben's let him win on team orders most likely. Who really knows and who really cares, the point being, if you don't have a front running car under your ass, you haven't got a chance to finish no more than mid field.
Bottomline, if you don't think, a CART Championship, an Indy 500 win, A Formula 1 WDC, a runner up position his rookie year, not to mention 11 F1 wins and various poles doesn't carry weight in the racing world, I don't know what else to say.
As far as LeMans, yes he was let down, they had the car to pull it off ,but didn't.
Critics still said his individual drives were stellar, and he has already committed to next year, so he doesn't dislike it as much as you seem to think he does. He also sprayed the champagne, smiled and chatted with many, trust me I was there.

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Jun 29, 2008
 
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Redneck Bob,
Doesn't take a whole lot of wondering if you've followed for 30 years. I too have been around for those kind of numbers and some.
At Ferarri the old man (which it had been said, also adored JV) died before JV hit the scene, plus Michael had imbedded his arrogant ass there, so Jacques had a snowballs chance in hell to ever drive for the red cars while the cheat-meister held the seat.
Arguing about his performance in the sub-standard Honda's isn't worth
my energy. Even the great MS couldn't do squat in a Ferarri the year of the Indy 6 car race, He just managed to beat two Jordans and two Menardi's.
Ruben's let him win on team orders most likely. Who really knows and who really cares, the point being, if you don't have a front running car under your ass, you haven't got a chance to finish no more than mid field.
Bottomline, if you don't think, a CART Championship, an Indy 500 win, A Formula 1 WDC, a runner up position his rookie year, not to mention 11 F1 wins and various poles doesn't carry weight in the racing world, I don't know what else to say.
As far as LeMans, yes he was let down, they had the car to pull it off ,but didn't.
Critics still said his individual drives were stellar, and he has already committed to next year, so he doesn't dislike it as much as you seem to think he does. He also sprayed the champagne, smiled and chatted with many, trust me I was there.
Of course you were at Le Mans!!!!!

Now the big question...who has said that Enzo Addored JV???? Maybe as a snot nosed teenager, and son of Giles, but certainly not as a driver, so go try that line on someone else, and believe me the boys at Ferrari, including Enzo, woul dnot hire drivers just becasue they were "nice".

As for the MS and ferrari thing, again a load of crap. Your hero JV has more than one occasion to be on the list to join Ferrari. In 1996 and 1999, when Irvine and Barachello were rather signed to drive for the Scuderia team. Sadly JV was just not good enough for the prancing horse, something he could never get over.

And yes maybe his drive with a substandard Honda isn't worht the mention, but lets keep in mind this bloke was suppoesed to be so great, yet none of the great teams actuallyh wanted him. The reason he got to drive with Williams was partly due to his family name. Willimas were at that time the best car on the grid by far, maybe that was the reason he managed to win the WDC in 1997.

Finally I find your chirp about Rubens letting MS win kind of funny......was it not Frank Williams who told JV to give up his lead to Damon Hill in his debut in Aussie in 1996. JV was leadign the race after scoring pole, but was told by Frankie to step aside.

And of course JV won his first race 3 races later at Nurburgring, but not easily he was under huge pressure from non other than Michael Schumacher. Keep in mind Williams has the best car on the track, while Ferrari, well they had what Alain Prost descrived as a "pig" of a car. Yip so much for your idea that if you never had a "front running" car you had no chance of "finishing better than midfield". Guess only some drivers have the class to do that, Jv was obvioulsly not one of them.

By the way in 1996, MS took that pig of a car and won 3 races, more than Ferrari had won in the 5 years before that combined, bringing Ferrari a 3rd in the constructors that season.
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Jun 29, 2008
 
Redneck,
OK, maybe a wee bit of liberty with Enzo, but He did adore GV and surely had nothing against his son, and was delighted Jaccques was following in dad's steps.(noted in racing mags and interviews before his death)

Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm from Canada, My wife from Germany and we have a small home in Hawaii to escape both European and Canadian winters. Way too much info, but we travel back and forth regularly and LeMans was in the picture for me, so mock it all you wish.

Ivine and Rubens were signed because they were better than JV. Please, give me a break and get your facts straight. First of all neither driver held a candle to Villeneuve, plus Michael was already in the picture and wanted nothing to do with driving against JV.

Granted the Williams was the best car on the grid. Tell me in at least 4 of Michael's WDC's he didn't have by far the best car on the grid.
Yes, JV was told to be allowed to be passed. "News Flash," that happens often in F1, but Ferarri seems to hold the golden rule to that standard.
Another point, Damon Hill 2 times WDC, who also had the fasted car on the grid was challenged regularly and almost beaten by Jacques in his rookie year. The following year HHF took the wheel for Damon in the other fastest car and got his doors blown off by one JV.
Yea MS is a suburb driver, no question, but so is Jacques. Michael took more trash to the front than did JV, but getting to a podium in that Honda wasn't an easy task for JV either.
Had JV driven in Ruben's place all those seasons, and without who was to win rules, we would have seen real racing with the results jumping back and forth like the Prost and Senna days. But "NO" MS would have nothing to do with real competition.
No doubt, JV made career blunders, but he was promised the moon by Honda and they never delivered. Example BAR was to be the exclusive engine to Honda, but no, Jordan shared in the so called exclusive deal.
Money is always a prime mover and 20 mil would have turned any drivers head, especially a 60 mil 3 year deal.
Pollock time and time screwed the pooch for Jacques, another issue that was a constant thorn in his side.
When Richards took over Jacques had talks going with both Renault and McLaren. Renault due to previous commitments there and was will liked, McLaren due to good words constantly being thrown into the pot by DC.
As history showed JV stayed true to the Honda commitment which Richard's controlled and black marked JV nearly for good out of F1.
He finally surfaced at Sauber and started to try and work his way back and then came BMW who wanted him out. He stayed due to an iron clad contract which got Mario's back up, and was neck and neck with Nick until Mario's influence slowly gave the edge to Nick. By mid season MT's desire to oust him came to be. End of JV.
Looking forward to your response.
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Jun 30, 2008
 
J.V. coolness is misunderstood as arrogance,I,m amazed at his ability to drive everthing good or bad and just keep it interesting and managable..most would just fall apart from the pressure.He has been a benchmark for so many drivers in motorsports.It will be great to see him drive with the good ol boys and I'm sure they will love to have him.Racing today is more about interfacing the car and the team then it is about driving the wheels of it.Thats why J.V.is great.
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Jun 30, 2008
 
damn! My comments were off topic..pardon me.
I think J.V. likes to entertain the idea of coming back to F1 because he can and like he said F1 cars should be on full slicks to keep it racy and risky.Look where BMW is today because of J.V. helping solidify that team.He does a pile of work and development and people say where are the wins.
There is more to F1 than just podiums and I think thats what J.V. gets excited about.
He was right about IRL vs CART..to bad.

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Jun 30, 2008
 
Hey Sessions, I told you to get the facts straight. Damon Hill only won 1 WDC, 1996. Oops.... here we go again off to a bad start.

As for the MS story about being in a crap car, well the benneton was really crappy compared to the Wilimas and the Macca in 1994 and a lesser extent but still inferior in 1995. Then MS did what others are to afraid to do, he joined probably the worst team on the track at the time. Certainly as a double WDC he could have joined the best out there, like Alonso tried in 2007, but instead MS went to a struggling, not unknown, but certainly a shoddy Ferrari at the time.

Ferrari had only won 3 races in the previous 5 years, last had a champion driver in 1979 and a constructors in 1983, and yet with MS's hard work and dedication and the genius of folks like Ross, they turned it around making Ferrari the unstoppable machine it really is today. Kind of puts it all in a different perspective, no Schumie doing his magic with the likes of Ross could have equalled no WDC's 3 - 7. Guess that makes all his 7 WDC's due to him making it the best car out there, certainly not getting into the best car out there....big difference. In his first season in 1996 he promised the Ferrari boys he would win 3 times in this "pig" of a car, and he did it. Wonder how many others had the balls to do that, I certainly never heard mr Fantastic JV promising Honda a couple of wins in his first year with them. Funny I never saw jack turning Honda around end of story, all he did was bitch about it all, and then go after his colleagues trying to state they they alll really were not that good. I think they call that a case of sour grapes.

Oh by the way Sessions, thanks for the run down on your lifestyle, I suppose I cannot compete, I only own a home on a pretty decent private golf estate in South Africa (My country of birth and home for the first 40 yrs of my life)) along with a weekend getaway in an area bordering the great Kruger National Park. All I get to see when I'm away are lions, Elephants and the odd zebra, wildebeest, giraffe, kudu, leopard, Rhino to mention but a few. We have had to baracade ourselves into our home on occasions as the lions spend a day lying on our pourch out of the hot sun, or the elephants hang out in our yard eating the bloody flowers we spend hrs planting. Certainly not as glamarous as Hawaii I am afraid but what the hell, some of us have to slum it hey.....

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Jun 30, 2008
 
Look where BMW is today because of J.V. helping solidify that team.He does a pile of work and development and people say where are the wins.

Please now that is the biggest load of crap i have ever read . He has been gone for so long that i had to go to the history books to recap and try remember who you were talking about .
Development my arse the only thing he ever did was drive a car that at the time was the best on track, and believe me he had nothing to do with the development of it .

1992Canon Williams Team
Constructor Title, 163 points - Nigel Mansell - World Champion, Riccardo Patrese.
1993Canon Williams Team
Constructor Title, 167 points - Damon Hill, Alain Prost - World Champion.
1994Rothmans Williams Renault
Constructor Title, 118 points - Damon Hill, Ayrton Senna | David Coulthard | Nigel Mansell.
1995Rothmans Williams Renault
2nd, 106 points - Damon Hill, David Coulthard.
1996Rothmans Williams Renault
Constructor Title, 175 points - Damon Hill - World Champion, Jacques Villeneuve.
1997Rothmans Williams Renault
Constructor Title, 123 points - Jacques Villeneuve - World Champion, Heinz-Harald Frentzen.

As you can see for your self there were plenty of ex greats that had been developing the car long before the idiot even joined them , and they had been winning , funny how he only won one DWC and then things went wrong , from first to third to nothing in 2 small years , WOW what a genius what a developer!!!!!!!!!!

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Jul 1, 2008
 
Mark one could argue tha when JV joined Williams were by far the most dominant car in F1, and when he left them they had deteriorated into crap, making JV the king of "anti" development in F1. he joined Honda and they went no where, certainly king anti development was on the forefront of doing that for them. At Le mans this year the Peugoet Jack was driving was so far ahead it was scary, and then the world realised it was JV out there, and Audi breathed a sigh of relief, they knew it was just a matter of time before the anti developer would strike and so he did, they lost, Audi won and the world laughed at JV .... as he stood on the podium sulking like an 8 yr old .... again.
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Jul 1, 2008
 
Redneck Bob,
I stand corrected on Damon.
Well, I can see this conversation will create absolutely no further insight towards giving JV any credibility for his driving or achievements in motor sports, so I will allow you to your opinions, and will retain my own. Really makes little difference in the scheme of things.
I'm retired and do all my moving about in a very meagre way, so It's easy for you to compete, I'm sure. Your home and what it exposes you to sounds top drawer. I'm sure seeing all those animals in nature is second to very little if anything. Enjoy racing and life.

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Jul 1, 2008
 
redneck Bob from Atlanta wrote:
Mark one could argue tha when JV joined Williams were by far the most dominant car in F1, and when he left them they had deteriorated into crap, making JV the king of "anti" development in F1. he joined Honda and they went no where, certainly king anti development was on the forefront of doing that for them. At Le mans this year the Peugoet Jack was driving was so far ahead it was scary, and then the world realised it was JV out there, and Audi breathed a sigh of relief, they knew it was just a matter of time before the anti developer would strike and so he did, they lost, Audi won and the world laughed at JV .... as he stood on the podium sulking like an 8 yr old .... again.
Hey Bob just dont understand how these fools can back a retard like JV , like you said all he can do is run it into the ground
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Jul 2, 2008
 
Mark SA
Thanks for your kind words in reference to JV fans. We've shared many a fine moment with his championships and titles. Hope your guy brings you the same joy. Good and bad , but never dull.

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Jul 4, 2008
 
sessions wrote:
Mark SA
Thanks for your kind words in reference to JV fans. We've shared many a fine moment with his championships and titles. Hope your guy brings you the same joy. Good and bad , but never dull.
It seems that Bob and Mark doesn't have a driver they can look up to so they look down on one, Jacques was and still is a world champion, that's something no one can take away from him, he still holds records in F1 that's still stands today.

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Jul 5, 2008
 
JV fan wrote:
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It seems that Bob and Mark doesn't have a driver they can look up to so they look down on one, Jacques was and still is a world champion, that's something no one can take away from him, he still holds records in F1 that's still stands today.
Hey idiot how can he still be a world champion if he no longer drives in F1 , and yes he might have been , but that was just by pure chance , and with the help of the guys that developed the car before he drove it , and that's about it. I really cant say i would like to look up to a driver like JV , cause he was just a flash in the pan, never did anything after that other than brake cars and ruin the reputation of the team he was driving for

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