Favre Gets Better of Pack Again

Ol' Number 4 does it again. Wonder how long it will take for the world to realize that he is the greatest QB of all time? If Favre's career was a movie, noone would believe it.

Joe Montana > Brett Favre.

Superbowl record doesn't lie. Tom Brady's better for the same reason while have less help on offense than Favre did and Peyton Manning is on pace to break many of Brett's QB records

Joe M. has more rings, period!

If Favre takes the Vikes to the Super Bowl and wins it, then the "who's the greatest QB of all time" debate will automatically have to agree that it's #4.

favre is my hero

Hard to ignore all the interceptions the loser has thrown.
Without Adrian Peterson Farve would be nothing.

For anyone who doesn't know, I'm a lifelong Packer fan, going back to the crazy days of Scott Hunter at QB and John Brockington at RB. While I love my Packers, I'm also a logical person who can look at things unemotionally. And here's my take, and a question, on this whole Favre vs. Rodgers thing.

The Packers, as we know, have some issues, mostly along the offensive line. Whether it's talent, or coaching, I can't say, and that's not the point of this post. The season's not over for them by a long shot, and they still have time to pull things together and have a successful season.

The Vikings (and it pains me to say this as a Packer fan) have built a pretty damn good team. Any true football fan would say that. At this point, I think that if anyone's going to stop them, it will be themselves. We'll see... there's still half a season left, and a lot can happen.

Now, here's my question (and probably only post for the week), and it's aimed at the Viking fans here. I'm hopeful to hear from the fans who know their football, can think objectively instead of emotionally. And obviously this isn't going to happen... it's just a "wish list" hypothetical sort of thing.

Putting all feelings aside, and simply looking at this from a football point of view: if today (that's today, not 10 years ago or 3 years from now, but today) you Viking fans had the opportunity to trade Brett Favre even up for Aaron Rodgers, would you make the trade? If I were you, I would. In a heartbeat. Can you imagine Rodgers behind that Viking offensive line? He would be even better than Favre has been for you this year. Not even close. He would pick teams apart... that's how good he could be with decent pass protection. I don't think I'm out of line in saying he could be one of the best ever.

Just curious what you think... and I suspect scattered between the name calling and the homertalk, there will be some responses from the knowledgable Viking fans that agree with me. That should simmer down some of the Favre talk. He's had a very nice season, but it's had more to do with the rest of the Viking team being "that good" rather than his carrying the team himself.

It makes no difference. Favre still can't fart as loud as I can and never will.

answerman wrote:

For anyone who doesn't know, I'm a lifelong Packer fan, going back to the crazy days of Scott Hunter at QB and John Brockington at RB. While I love my Packers, I'm also a logical person who can look at things unemotionally. And here's my take, and a question, on this whole Favre vs. Rodgers thing.
The Packers, as we know, have some issues, mostly along the offensive line. Whether it's talent, or coaching, I can't say, and that's not the point of this post. The season's not over for them by a long shot, and they still have time to pull things together and have a successful season.
The Vikings (and it pains me to say this as a Packer fan) have built a pretty damn good team. Any true football fan would say that. At this point, I think that if anyone's going to stop them, it will be themselves. We'll see... there's still half a season left, and a lot can happen.
Now, here's my question (and probably only post for the week), and it's aimed at the Viking fans here. I'm hopeful to hear from the fans who know their football, can think objectively instead of emotionally. And obviously this isn't going to happen... it's just a "wish list" hypothetical sort of thing.
Putting all feelings aside, and simply looking at this from a football point of view: if today (that's today, not 10 years ago or 3 years from now, but today) you Viking fans had the opportunity to trade Brett Favre even up for Aaron Rodgers, would you make the trade? If I were you, I would. In a heartbeat. Can you imagine Rodgers behind that Viking offensive line? He would be even better than Favre has been for you this year. Not even close. He would pick teams apart... that's how good he could be with decent pass protection. I don't think I'm out of line in saying he could be one of the best ever.
Just curious what you think... and I suspect scattered between the name calling and the homertalk, there will be some responses from the knowledgable Viking fans that agree with me. That should simmer down some of the Favre talk. He's had a very nice season, but it's had more to do with the rest of the Viking team being "that good" rather than his carrying the team himself.

Remember the first 8 games of last year when he had some decent stats..then the last 9 when his age caught up to him,look for more of the same,wait til his old bones get a taste of a cold weather game..snap,crackle,POP !!

It also helps when Favre plays in an easier league. Packers, Bears, and the Lions are easier to play than the Pats, Phins, and Bills.

Favre's a great QB, but his poor post-season marks compared to guys like Brady and Montana mean more than the regular season stuff these guys put up. And like somebody already said....Favre throws too many INT's that off-set his TD marks.

answerman wrote:

For anyone who doesn't know, I'm a lifelong Packer fan, going back to the crazy days of Scott Hunter at QB and John Brockington at RB. While I love my Packers, I'm also a logical person who can look at things unemotionally. And here's my take, and a question, on this whole Favre vs. Rodgers thing.
The Packers, as we know, have some issues, mostly along the offensive line. Whether it's talent, or coaching, I can't say, and that's not the point of this post. The season's not over for them by a long shot, and they still have time to pull things together and have a successful season.
The Vikings (and it pains me to say this as a Packer fan) have built a pretty damn good team. Any true football fan would say that. At this point, I think that if anyone's going to stop them, it will be themselves. We'll see... there's still half a season left, and a lot can happen.
Now, here's my question (and probably only post for the week), and it's aimed at the Viking fans here. I'm hopeful to hear from the fans who know their football, can think objectively instead of emotionally. And obviously this isn't going to happen... it's just a "wish list" hypothetical sort of thing.
Putting all feelings aside, and simply looking at this from a football point of view: if today (that's today, not 10 years ago or 3 years from now, but today) you Viking fans had the opportunity to trade Brett Favre even up for Aaron Rodgers, would you make the trade? If I were you, I would. In a heartbeat. Can you imagine Rodgers behind that Viking offensive line? He would be even better than Favre has been for you this year. Not even close. He would pick teams apart... that's how good he could be with decent pass protection. I don't think I'm out of line in saying he could be one of the best ever.
Just curious what you think... and I suspect scattered between the name calling and the homertalk, there will be some responses from the knowledgable Viking fans that agree with me. That should simmer down some of the Favre talk. He's had a very nice season, but it's had more to do with the rest of the Viking team being "that good" rather than his carrying the team himself.

It all depends on whether you view each season as a goal in itself, or if you're thinking long term. Right now, Favre is much better than Rodgers. His experience and knowledge make up for any possible lesser physical abilities...perhaps Rodgers will be great SOMEDAY, but he doesn't have the experience yet. But Favre obviously won't play ten more years. However, I believe the NFL is about right now. It was stupid of Packers management to treat the biggest Packer legend in such a way as to divide the fans and cause such uproar. But oddly enough, considering Thompson seems to have no interest in bringing in veterans and seems content to build not-quite-great teams on the cheap through low draft choices, Favre is better off where he is now. Put Favre on the 09 Packers and they'd have a CHANCE at challenging the Vikings for the division title, but that's about it. The Vikes with Favre are a serious Super Bowl contender. And to all those people who keep saying "Favre blew all these games, bla bla bla" haven't you noticed how much better he is playing with a real team? How it's reminiscent of how he played with the 95-97 Packers, which were another real team? Ever think maybe all the "wild gunslinging" was because Favre had to play over his head to push a bunch of mediocre teams into contention? Favre is the greatest QB ever. If he'd been surrounded with Montana's 49ers or Brady's Patriots or Bradshaw's Steelers instead of a bunch of mediocre teams besides from 95-97, the whole "Favre can't win the big games" bit would be moot.

To answer the question posed above yes I think you must take that trade. Rodgers is gonna be a great QB in this league for awhile if he stays healthy.

Thanks for the answers, but I think you missed the point. It wasn't about how Rodgers is going to be for his career. My point was that if you were to put Rodgers on the Vikings now, today... they would be even better than they are with Favre. If Rodgers had the kind of pass protection that the Vikings line is giving Favre, he'd be unstoppable. Look at the numbers he's putting up this season while he's running for his life.

Obviously, it's not going to happen. Just something to talk about.

answerman wrote:

Thanks for the answers, but I think you missed the point. It wasn't about how Rodgers is going to be for his career. My point was that if you were to put Rodgers on the Vikings now, today... they would be even better than they are with Favre. If Rodgers had the kind of pass protection that the Vikings line is giving Favre, he'd be unstoppable. Look at the numbers he's putting up this season while he's running for his life.
Obviously, it's not going to happen. Just something to talk about.

Oh, in that case no way, you keep BF it's a no brainer in my book.

Why do you morons from Green Bay get so pissed at Farve. The Packers organization got rid of him. he wanted to play ball. Dumbasses.

answerman wrote:

Thanks for the answers, but I think you missed the point. It wasn't about how Rodgers is going to be for his career. My point was that if you were to put Rodgers on the Vikings now, today... they would be even better than they are with Favre. If Rodgers had the kind of pass protection that the Vikings line is giving Favre, he'd be unstoppable. Look at the numbers he's putting up this season while he's running for his life.
Obviously, it's not going to happen. Just something to talk about.

Disagree. For this year, and this year only (maybe next year too depending on what happens..Favre's in uncharted territory, there's never been a QB playing as well as he is at his age so there's no way to guess how long Favre can continue at this level), you'd want Favre, if you were the Vikings. He's just as good a physical thrower as Rodgers, and has much more "leadership" quality and knows just about all there is to know about playing QB in the NFL. Teams FEAR Favre. They don't fear Rodgers, not yet at least. Sheer numbers don't mean all that much...it's whether you can win or not. Rodgers, and it's not his fault obviously, hasn't had the experience Favre has had. The youth factor is only a plus if you worry about Favre holding up for the whole season at 40..although with the beating Rodgers is taking, you wonder if RODGERS is going to fall apart before Favre does. However, if Favre had retired, I'd certainly trade T-Jack AND Sage for Rodgers...lol. And I'd trade Favre for Peyton for sure, maybe Big Ben, or Brees, maybe Brady....although I've never been convinced that Brady is all THAT great...look at the difference in Cassel on and off the Patriots. Good to bla. I suspect Brady would go from "great" to "ok" if he wasn't on the Patriots. Peyton could probably lead the LIONS into the playoffs by himself, practically. Favre could have a few years ago.

answerman wrote:

Thanks for the answers, but I think you missed the point. It wasn't about how Rodgers is going to be for his career. My point was that if you were to put Rodgers on the Vikings now, today... they would be even better than they are with Favre. If Rodgers had the kind of pass protection that the Vikings line is giving Favre, he'd be unstoppable. Look at the numbers he's putting up this season while he's running for his life.
Obviously, it's not going to happen. Just something to talk about.

The IF LANDERS have arrived. GB didnt want Favre back. So be it. But quit with the excuses . GB has alot of Problems. The QB is not one of them.

triple6vamp wrote:

Hard to ignore all the interceptions the loser has thrown.
Without Adrian Peterson Farve would be nothing.

peterson would be nothing withoute farve (this season so far)

peterson is good but,farve is carrieing the viks so far this year note; first game against pakers