Aaron Rodgers not quite good enough

Is there anhyone out there that can buy the Bears and manage them professionally? PLEASE??

I know it goes down as a"W" in the score sheet, but this game exposed the problems with the Bear coaching and talent evaluation.
1. Lovie's defensive philosophy is be quick to the ball. This is not Arena football. We need big mean nasty characters on "D" not track stars.(Remember the Super Bowl when some rookie tackle pancaked our multi million dollar DE into the end zone so that second stringer Rhodes could walk in for a score?).
2. Our QBs look like accountants. We have Rex the wonder arm who cannot see over defensive lineman and Orton the fool who is not only possessed of a puss arm but has limited vision. Only our third string QB looks like a football player.
3. Do they play tackle football at Vanderbilt? Williams is a bust; Bennett is 7th string on the worst WR corps in pro football and Hunter "pancake me " Hillenmeyer is a disgrace to the uniform.
4. We need a real Bear as a Head Coach not some "turn the other cheek" track coach. Go get Singletary if SF is too stupid to lock him up; or Rivera or even a nitwit with guts like Hampton or Mongo. Anyone who knows why 60,000 maniacs would come out in god awful weather would be better that the milquetoast on the Bear sideline.

Part of your job is to use your position to hold the Bears franchise accountable for making decisions like keeping Orton. He is not a number one NFL QB; he is barely a #2. You guys in the media seem to like neckbeard's attitude or something; give us a break, watch the film recognize this guy is not the answer. You guys need a Wake-Up call; watch the Film; Orton is the Problem.

This is a team loss again. D good and bad same for O. Special teams ,returns not bad ,coverage bad.Its been one thing or another. I IMO hated the last O play calls on 2nd and 3rd down.MM seemed to settle in for the field goal again. GB has 5 wins take a chance. Yes AR was 4-8 for 34 yards in the fourth so what let him play. Anr no this loss was not his fault. And he could not bring them back to win in OT he didnt get a chance. The last time GB had the ball they got it at the bears 35 and gained 14 yards I put that on MM not AR. MM threw it all game why stop? 8 passes in the fourth . all the yards between the 20's mean nothing. Play to score not play to not lose. They played to win for only 3 quarters .Thats on mm.

buy the bears...o.k. i have 10.00 but i'll save it. it's like the cubs mybe next yr.they are bad.....o.k..merry christmas

What is the point of this article? By Pompei's own admission Rodgers lit up the sky and was hurt by some near misses by his receivers. The guy did about everything he could to help the Packers win this game. He cannot even be remotely blamed for this loss, has the full confidence of his coach, and yet gets labeled "not quite good enough".

Let's assume that somehow makes sense. How does Orton rate then? I was an Orton believer until this game. How does anyone throw that INT to Woodson? The guy was just standing there having a hot dog, waiting for the ball to be thrown directly to him. Even a hack playground QB like me probably would've seen Woodson sitting on that route. Mark DeRosa could have played a better QB last night.

Yes, the Bears somehow won, but why not level criticism where its actually deserved?

Aaron Rodgers was totally fine and had nothing to do with them losing the game. He drove them into range for a reasonable field goal with less than 2:00 to go! If we'd had him instead of Orton yesterday the game wouldn't have been close. The guy may have been bad late in other games, but yesterday he was fine. Can't Pompei find anything else to write about?

The difference between Rodgers and Orton is that Orton is a winner.

Not sure this article is fair to Aaron... In fact although all the pre season hype was about the quarterback I dont think Brett OR Aaron would have made the difference this year.

Unless Aaron can somehow make the defense or special teams better I think people are barking up the wrong tree by blaming him for our losing.

Orton is not the problem. He could do better at looking off the receiver/coverage than coming back to his target but he is not the problem.
The Bears wide receivers suck. They drop balls left and right. Even the long ball to Hester that was slightly underthrown hit Hester right in the hands. Booker was hit in the chest. Even the Viking game, we had 5 or six drop balls before Orton started throwing interceptions.
To Orton's credit, I can't remember the last time we had a quarterback who consistantly marched us down the field to win games and/or tie it. Don't forget the coach blew the Falcons game, Orton won it. You could throw the play call on the coaches for the Carolina game too.
The bears receivers are also only average in getting off the line of scrimmage and route running, though to Hester's credit he looks rather good for how little he has played the position. Now only if he could catch the ball.
You guys act like Orton has to be perfect every. That's a standard almost nobody can live up to. Especially with the mediocre receivers we have. If the receivers think they are better, please stand up and prove it.

Another note, you guys all act like you never have seen other quarterbacks drill a Bears defender in the chest with the ball and make it look like he didn't even see the defender.

It happens. You don't even have to go back that far in game tape. In fact Rodgers did it last night, only our guys didn't catch the ball. It happens.

How could Orton go from a QB that challenged/broken Drew Brees' records at Purdue to this bumbling Neckbeard with the Bears? Are the Bears that inept at developing passers? Look at all the horrible offensive coordinators they've had: Ron Turner, Gary Crowton, John Shoop, Terry Shea, Ron Turner redux.

Tom wrote:

The difference between Rodgers and Orton is that Orton is a winner.

Did you say whiner?

Kyle Orton is 9-6. His best receiver this year is Devin Hester followed by...
Aaron Rodgers for all the credit he has been given is 5-10, with a receiving corps ranked 9th in the NFL (5th in the NFC). If you really think the Packers are "just as good" with Rodgers as they wouldve been with Brett Favre, you must not have watched many Packers vs Bears games during the Favre era. Brett Favre would not have left Crosby last night w a 35+ yard field goal with 2:00 left and that kind of great field position after the Peterson penalty. Favre either gets that ball in the end zone or somewhere close enough that Reggie White couldve kicked it through and ended a miserable night for Chicago.
Rodgers numbers against a makeshift bears secondary and a nonexistent pass rush dont impress me.
Give Orton some receivers and he wouldnt have to force so many throws against a tough secondary ranked 7th in the NFC.
Go BEARS, take care of business in Houston.

Hey Neal.

Which game did you watch? Rodgers does not have the luxury that Favre had to change the play that the coach called. Put the blame on MM, where it belongs. The Packers were 5-9 and going nowhere and McCarthy is coaching like the Super Bowl was on the line. Each of the last 2 weeks he sent the fb into the line on 4th down, one on the goal line. Neither was successful. That was the only time the fb touched the ball all day. Why does every head coach thinks he's Holmgren, a true offensive genius? Don't put this one on Rodgers.

Not saying Rodgers is the reason they lost/are losing. Brett Favre wins these close games, believe the Pack has lost quite a few this year. My money wouldve been on Favre winning that game last night.

bbk wrote:

Orton is not the problem. He could do better at looking off the receiver/coverage than coming back to his target but he is not the problem.
The Bears wide receivers suck. They drop balls left and right. Even the long ball to Hester that was slightly underthrown hit Hester right in the hands. Booker was hit in the chest. Even the Viking game, we had 5 or six drop balls before Orton started throwing interceptions.
To Orton's credit, I can't remember the last time we had a quarterback who consistantly marched us down the field to win games and/or tie it. Don't forget the coach blew the Falcons game, Orton won it. You could throw the play call on the coaches for the Carolina game too.
The bears receivers are also only average in getting off the line of scrimmage and route running, though to Hester's credit he looks rather good for how little he has played the position. Now only if he could catch the ball.
You guys act like Orton has to be perfect every. That's a standard almost nobody can live up to. Especially with the mediocre receivers we have. If the receivers think they are better, please stand up and prove it.

OK, where do I start with this? How about that long throw to Hester, you know the one that was "slightly underthrown." Hester had three steps on his man when the throw was released. By the time it floated down, Hester had come to a dead stop and both defenders for Green Bay were there to break up the pass. A true NFL-caliber QB (even one as bad as Rex Grossman) completes that pass to Hester -- are you ready for this?-- IN STRIDE and it's an easy TD.
Point No. 2: I am sooooo sick and tired of hearing you Orton-loving meatheads complain about the wide receivers. The receivers were bad last year, too. Yet you mopes told us all that Grossman needed to "make his receivers better." Funny how that changed when Kyle Orton became starting QB.
Point No. 3: You can't remember the last time the Bears had a QB who led them on drives to tie or win the game. I can. His name was Rex Grossman. In 2006, he threw a 24-yard TD pass to Rashied Davis to win the game in Minnesota 19-16. Against Tampa Bay that same season, Rex threw for 339 yards and two TDs, including a 28-yard completion in OT to set up the game-winning field goal, bailing the defense out after they blew a 31-17 lead in the fourth quarter. And in the playoffs in 2006-07, Grossman came up big again, leading the Bears on a game-winning drive in OT to beat the Seahawks. And against New Orleans, Rex didn't need any game-winning last second heroics, because he threw a 33-yard TD pass ALL IN THE AIR (something Orton can't seem to do) to Bernard Berrian to turn an 18-14 game into a rout.
Finally, last year Grossman led the Bears on two TD drives in the fourth quarter against Denver, including a TD pass to Berrian on 4th down with 28 seconds left to tie the game and then led them on a field goal drive in OT to win it.
The fact that you can't remember these things merely speaks to your own mental shortcomings, not anything related to Grossman.
Finally, let me leave you with this: The Bears are the only team in the NFL to not have a single pass completion of more than 30 yards through the air. The. Only. One. That should tell you something about Orton's ability to play QB in the NFL. Here's a hint, since it seems you lack the base of football knowledge to figure it out on your own: He can't throw the deep ball with accuracy and strength. And in the NFL, that is a major problem.

So I hope that helped you with your perception problems. Now go get a clue.