Signing Vick is not Worth it

USA ROCKS wrote:

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DOWHATUDO2YOURSELF, for the majority of people this isn't about race. Unfortunately, for the majority of vick athletic supporters, it is. It most definitely is about race for you anyway. You inadvertently revealed that in one of your posts when you said if vick weren't black you wouldn't even be here. Don't recall that? Let me refresh your memory: http://www.topix.com/forum/football-players/m...
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Now, can you show me any posts by people who only advocate the humane treatment of animals in which it is stated that they are only here expressing comtempt and disgust for vick because he is black? You can't, and you know why, because race has nothing to do with it.

And still going

Ban Michael Vick. He was only sorry he got caught.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/keep-michael...

Mn_sport wrote:

If I was Goodell I would suspend him for one year for lieing to my face, then Id suspend him 2 years for lieing to me when he says Im sorry for what I did, because he`ll be lieing to you again. He`s only sorry for the fact he got caught , look at his little beady eyes and smug look, he`s not sorry for anything he did but got caught. anyone that thinks he should play again should go to the bank ask for a loan and go out and buy a team themselve, then waste your own money on that pile of byle. He`s a horrible qb anyways one that got worsae every year he played. I think the owner of atlanta was a fool to give him that contract anyways. Highest payed piece of crap on the football field. The Atlanta Falcons got themselves a real qb now , because he was to retarded to realize what he had for being a horrible qb. I hope he was the receiver in prison if ya know what I mean. Screw Vick

He's trash

Rita wrote:

Ban Michael Vick. He was only sorry he got caught.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/keep-michael...

pass it on

Melinda wrote:

<quoted text>And still going

I've stayed off the subject of your troubles Ralexa so trying to provoke me. I stand by what I said in response to the question asked. I also said this:

In this society, a man who has served time for a crime he has committed, who says he is sorry for it, should not be prevented from pursuing a living at career in which he excels.

Our society should not continue to censor this person even if the crime he committed is morally and legally unacceptable. This should not prevent him for pursuing his future goals once his debt to society has been paid with time served for the crime.

We live by the laws of this society. Mike Vick is now a free man according to those laws (well, in two months). His 'goal' is to rejoin the NFL. He should be allowed to try.

Mn_sport wrote:

If I was Goodell I would suspend him for one year for lieing to my face, then Id suspend him 2 years for lieing to me when he says Im sorry for what I did, because he`ll be lieing to you again. He`s only sorry for the fact he got caught , look at his little beady eyes and smug look, he`s not sorry for anything he did but got caught. anyone that thinks he should play again should go to the bank ask for a loan and go out and buy a team themselve, then waste your own money on that pile of byle. He`s a horrible qb anyways one that got worsae every year he played. I think the owner of atlanta was a fool to give him that contract anyways. Highest payed piece of crap on the football field. The Atlanta Falcons got themselves a real qb now , because he was to retarded to realize what he had for being a horrible qb. I hope he was the receiver in prison if ya know what I mean. Screw Vick

So raw, so right

By Dorothy Willis (Senior Writer) May 29, 2009

Why does Michael Vick deserve a pass?

If he was the greatest player to ever take the field it would just be wrong to reinstate him no matter how much time he has served for his crime.

To allow him to play in the NFL would be a mistake with many repercussions.

No, I am not saying that Michael Vick will start torturing and killing humans, but allowing him to be a respected player in the NFL would be sending the wrong message to our children and the rest of the world.

Football players are not gods. They do not deserve anything above what an ordinary person does.

You can not preach goodness to children and let an example of pure evil become an American idol as a NFL player.

Would you have your children worship the devil because he says he has changed his ways?

Evil is still evil, you can't put a NFL jersey on it to dress it up and let it assume a heroic status.

The youth of America need good role models.

No one would let John Gacy or Jeffry Dahmer play in the NFL and make millions no matter how well they could play.

Why should Michael Vick be any different?

Please consider it an act of mercy that he was apprehended and punished the way he was. He has a chance to turn his life around and better himself, but does not deserve to do it on a national stage in the presence of impressionable young people.

Vick had a moral obligation as a football star. What kind of person has their dogs teeth pulled in order to facilitate breeding or uses a rape rack? It makes me physically sick to look at Vick. I hope Vick is never allowed to hold another football again.

Chicago Police Department studied the link between crimes against animals and other violent crimes. The study found that people who commit crimes against animals are much more likely to commit crimes against human beings. Of the 332 offenders reviewed:
• 86% had two or more arrests on their records
• 70% have been arrested for other felonies
• 70% have been arrested for illegal narcotics
• 59% are members of criminal street gangs
• 65% have been arrested for battery
• 27% have been arrested for firearms
• 25% have been arrested for theft
• 13% are sex offenders

what dogfighters do
877///847///4787
5000.00 reward

You are right. Only the lowest would do these things and call them mistakes.

Vick is the scum of the earth.

DOWHATITDO2U2 wrote:

<quoted text>I've stayed off the subject of your troubles Ralexa so trying to provoke me. I stand by what I said in response to the question asked. I also said this:
In this society, a man who has served time for a crime he has committed, who says he is sorry for it, should not be prevented from pursuing a living at career in which he excels.
Our society should not continue to censor this person even if the crime he committed is morally and legally unacceptable. This should not prevent him for pursuing his future goals once his debt to society has been paid with time served for the crime.
We live by the laws of this society. Mike Vick is now a free man according to those laws (well, in two months). His 'goal' is to rejoin the NFL. He should be allowed to try.

Tell it to "society" Dowhat. Our "society" has a little flaw....that is, some of them will continue to persecute a criminal after they get out of jail regardless of how forgiving others in our society might be. Some people are extremely unforgiving and will actively seek out people on the sex offender registry for the purpose of persecuting them and running them out of their neigiborhoods and will do this without regard to their actual crime. Some on that registry are 21-year-olds who had consensual sex with a 16-year-old yet they are bunched right in there with pedophiles who rape little kids. Those guys get the persecution from society more than any other criminal.
Casey Anthony's parents have been hounded and persecuted by the public and the media because they dare to try to support their own child during the investigation into little Caylee's death.
I could go on and on with these types of examples but the fact remains that when a criminal gets out of jail they have to run a gauntlet of "society" that believes it is their right to continue to persecute them anytime and for as long as they please. It doesn't make it right, that's just the way a lot of people are.
Michael Vick now has to run the gauntlet of society while he pursues getting his career back. He may or may not succeed but he certainly has the right to try. But right or wrong, he has to face the real world and the people who live in it and nobody can stop those that want protest whatever he tries to do. This is reality Dowhat and you can't change it just by saying "stop".

smitty wrote:

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because usually ex cons since they are fellons cant get jobs so they revert to what they were doing to get money before. In Vicks case he doesnt need to revert to dogfighting to make money. so I fully expect him to stop and start making millions playing football. you think otherwise, fine. but to me thats wishful thinking on your part.

That wasn't the case with my friend's husband. He got a job working as a house painter off the books. The only reason he wanted it to be under the table was to avoid paying child support for his FIVE children (by 3 different women).

Vick got a construction job, he quit that because he probably couldn't hack it working as an EQUAL with a bunch of guys. He still thinks he's
a star.

Gene wrote:

Vick had a moral obligation as a football star. What kind of person has their dogs teeth pulled in order to facilitate breeding or uses a rape rack? It makes me physically sick to look at Vick. I hope Vick is never allowed to hold another football again.

This is one of the things about dogfighting and Vick that sent it even further than the pale(if that's possible). Why did he have to pull all Georgia's teeth

Michelle wrote:

<quoted text>This is one of the things about dogfighting and Vick that sent it even further than the pale(if that's possible). Why did he have to pull all Georgia's teeth

Really?

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." "I hold that the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man." ---Ghandi

Doglover wrote:

"The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way in which its animals are treated." "I hold that the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man." ---Ghandi

Notice how some cultures that hold dogs in contempt, are also countries that apply draconian methods of "discipline" towards people.

Michelle wrote:

<quoted text>This is one of the things about dogfighting and Vick that sent it even further than the pale(if that's possible). Why did he have to pull all Georgia's teeth

Because he got a thrill out of the screams from the pain that precious animal was enduring so he could satisfy his sexual pleasure. That's what this is all about; the personal pleasure and entertainment he derived from mutilating and torturing helpless animals to their death. There is no one in their right mind that can condone these vicious,vile,evil and savage acts against innocent animals which were committed by this beast.

Betty wrote:

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Notice how some cultures that hold dogs in contempt, are also countries that apply draconian methods of "discipline" towards people.

Especially cultures or countries that have strong machismo. I used to be married to a Latin man who was very decent himself. But many of his people would question things like,(the neutering of dogs, being vegetarian, who is in control at home,etc.)

Gene wrote:

Vick had a moral obligation as a football star. What kind of person has their dogs teeth pulled in order to facilitate breeding or uses a rape rack? It makes me physically sick to look at Vick. I hope Vick is never allowed to hold another football again.

A brain damaged beast who enjoyed the screaming pains of Georgia while her teeth were being extracted. I can't in my wildest imagination think of the horrendous pain she suffered but thank God, she survived this torture and is able to function as best as she can.To do this to an innocent and helpless animal indicates the evil,vile,and sadistic nature of Vick which adds up to zoosadism.