Humane Society Investigation At Wyoming Premium Farms Raises...

May 21, 2012 Full story: The Huffington Post 75

Even so, the activist -- and the Humane Society -- say they were appalled by the level of depravity they ultimately documented in an undercover video that has since touched off an investigation by state officials and raised fresh questions about animal welfare on the nation's factory farms.

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“9.99% of what happens...”

Since: Aug 11

...is not on the news

#1 May 21, 2012
Saw the video and was horrified. The place should be shutdown.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#2 May 22, 2012
the video made me cry, so many pigs for the slaughter and breeding cages, more than half of the pigs body with be un-used as people dont eat the orgins and what not, and then over half of the pig meat products will be thrown away because they a NEAR the out of date day, its messed up, to to mention the many that die at birth, giving birth, insanity, coutless health reasons and if they arnt good enough for food, these creatures are the fith most smart creature on this planet and are treated like objects with no feelings mentaly and physicaly, people need to seriously open up there eyes and stop being sheltered from this cold hearted truth of slavery.

and for those people in the video, they should be skinned alive and fed to the wolves!
aur56

Aurora, MO

#3 May 22, 2012
Shut this place down. Farm animals should be treated with some respect, we eat them,raise them for our consumption and yet treat them like garbage. Read any book by Temple Grandin on livestock production and you'll believe in her way of treating cows,pigs,chickens. Treat them better and they in turn will have kinder, if shorter life.
Vegetarian

Colchester, UK

#4 May 22, 2012
Absolutely disgusting!!! If you're going to raise animals for human consumption atleast treat them humaneley.

Fliping pigs threw the air, punching, kicking and sitting on them ect... shows that you're an insane nutjob that shouldn't be anywhere near animals.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#5 May 22, 2012
Vegetarian wrote:
Absolutely disgusting!!! If you're going to raise animals for human consumption atleast treat them humaneley.
Fliping pigs threw the air, punching, kicking and sitting on them ect... shows that you're an insane nutjob that shouldn't be anywhere near animals.
Agreed. As I've said before, "animal rights" don't exist and never will but that doesn't mean that we humans don't have a responsibility to treat the animals we use for food, work, and companionship in a humane manner.

Hey Vegetarian, how much do ya wanna' bet that HAC (Lumpy) will follow me to this thread, spew filth, and accuse others of being trolls?

“9.99% of what happens...”

Since: Aug 11

...is not on the news

#6 May 23, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Agreed. As I've said before, "animal rights" don't exist and never will but that doesn't mean that we humans don't have a responsibility to treat the animals we use for food, work, and companionship in a humane manner.
Hey Vegetarian, how much do ya wanna' bet that HAC (Lumpy) will follow me to this thread, spew filth, and accuse others of being trolls?
Looks like you lost your bet.. and you're wrong, Animal Rights already exists now, just not in the eyes of the law, one day it will though. Might not be in your lifetime, but it will.

“9.99% of what happens...”

Since: Aug 11

...is not on the news

#7 May 23, 2012
Human population growth will render factory farming animals obsolete one day. We're already pushing 8 billion people, and the food production methods we're using won't support much more. The more people we have on earth, the more animals we have to farm, the more food we have to grow in order to feed those animals. Anyone who can do simple math can figure this one out.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#8 May 24, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>As I've said before, "animal rights" don't exist and never will
Animal Rights dont exist??? might not where you live but here you can be placed in jail or pay a fine for animal crulety, neglect, fighting, hunting and many more...

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#9 May 24, 2012
Crazy Like FoxNews wrote:
<quoted text>
Looks like you lost your bet.. and you're wrong, Animal Rights already exists now, just not in the eyes of the law, one day it will though. Might not be in your lifetime, but it will.
Animals do not have "rights" and never will. You misuse the word constantly. Animals have "protections" and that is a completely different thing.

I strongly suspect that HAC didn't follow me to this thread (yet) because there are AR folks here who have condemned the filth and profanity spewed by HAC.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#10 May 24, 2012
CODEsapphire wrote:
<quoted text>
Animal Rights dont exist??? might not where you live but here you can be placed in jail or pay a fine for animal crulety, neglect, fighting, hunting and many more...
You are correct that one can be jailed for those things but that doesn't constitute "rights" for animals. Those are "protections" for animals, completely different. One can also be jailed for stealing a car. Does that mean the car has "rights"? No it doesn't. The very concept of "rights" is exclusively human. With rights come responsibilities. The most important responsibility is not to violate the rights of others. Animals are not capable of understanding and accepting the responsibilities that go hand in hand with rights and therefore will never have "rights". Having said that, I do believe that humans have a responsibility to treat the animals we use for food, work, and companionship in a humane manner and that's why I endorse efforts to "protect" animals from unnecessary human cruelty.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#11 May 24, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>You are correct that one can be jailed for those things but that doesn't constitute "rights" for animals. Those are "protections" for animals, completely different. One can also be jailed for stealing a car. Does that mean the car has "rights"? No it doesn't. The very concept of "rights" is exclusively human. With rights come responsibilities. The most important responsibility is not to violate the rights of others. Animals are not capable of understanding and accepting the responsibilities that go hand in hand with rights and therefore will never have "rights". Having said that, I do believe that humans have a responsibility to treat the animals we use for food, work, and companionship in a humane manner and that's why I endorse efforts to "protect" animals from unnecessary human cruelty.
erm firstly a car is a man made object, not a creature that feels physical and mental pain.

and other animals do understand responsibilities, any mother understands the responserbilities of caring for her young, all animals understand the need to reproduce, all animals have inteligence in subjects which fit there needs, animals also don`t attack without reason, weather it`s to protect it`s young or pack, it`s need to feed for survively or it`s cornered and affraid.

there Rights are to be protected, to be seen as a living breathing feelings creature that needs as much rights and care as any human being does.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#12 May 24, 2012
CODEsapphire wrote:
<quoted text>
erm firstly a car is a man made object, not a creature that feels physical and mental pain.
and other animals do understand responsibilities, any mother understands the responserbilities of caring for her young, all animals understand the need to reproduce, all animals have inteligence in subjects which fit there needs, animals also don`t attack without reason, weather it`s to protect it`s young or pack, it`s need to feed for survively or it`s cornered and affraid.
there Rights are to be protected, to be seen as a living breathing feelings creature that needs as much rights and care as any human being does.
Well, let me put it this way. When you can show me conclusively that the owl recognizes the rights of the field mouse or the wolf recognizes the rights of the deer fawn and the risposibility not to violate those rights I may look at thigs differently. However, we both know that is impossible and therefore animals will never have "rights". What we can do is protect animals from unnecessary abuse and cruelty. That is entirely possible and has absolutely nothing to do with "rights".

“Bowhunting Is Euphoric”

Since: Jan 09

Double Lung em

#13 May 24, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Well, let me put it this way. When you can show me conclusively that the owl recognizes the rights of the field mouse or the wolf recognizes the rights of the deer fawn and the risposibility not to violate those rights I may look at thigs differently. However, we both know that is impossible and therefore animals will never have "rights". What we can do is protect animals from unnecessary abuse and cruelty. That is entirely possible and has absolutely nothing to do with "rights".
If she is actually 17 as her moniker says, she has time to educate herself. She may at some point replace wishful thinking with reality but only time will tell. Reason and logic are powerful tools if she is smart enough to use them.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#14 May 24, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>Well, let me put it this way. When you can show me conclusively that the owl recognizes the rights of the field mouse or the wolf recognizes the rights of the deer fawn and the risposibility not to violate those rights I may look at thigs differently. However, we both know that is impossible and therefore animals will never have "rights". What we can do is protect animals from unnecessary abuse and cruelty. That is entirely possible and has absolutely nothing to do with "rights".
now thats pure stupidity of a human being been brainwashed by material objects, we are all animals and its survivel of the fittest a wolf pack hunts for its family a owl hunts to feed, but human these days depend on factorise and junk food, they arnt in the wrong braindwashed beings are, we dont have the rights to turtore and thats what this topic is trying to explain that farms like these must and will but closed down, so what if people loose there jobs, its life over money and money is just one of many examples of man made objects that controle our lives

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#15 May 24, 2012
hiss of death wrote:
<quoted text>If she is actually 17 as her moniker says, she has time to educate herself. She may at some point replace wishful thinking with reality but only time will tell. Reason and logic are powerful tools if she is smart enough to use them.
Wishful thinking is world peace, common sense is the fact that more and more people are opening there eyes to this crule world with no meaning

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#16 May 24, 2012
hiss of death wrote:
<quoted text>If she is actually 17 as her moniker says, she has time to educate herself. She may at some point replace wishful thinking with reality but only time will tell. Reason and logic are powerful tools if she is smart enough to use them.
I think that many AR types, especially the youngest ones, haven't given much thought to the true meaning of "rights". If they did, it would become clear to them why animals don't have rights and can't have rights. The AR agenda plays on the emotions of young people and disregards logical thought. I suspect that many ARs would abandon the movement if they knew what the true goals are. I have no problem with trying to protect animals from unnecessary cruelty like that depicted in this article but that has absolutely nothing to do with animals having "rights" of any kind.

“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”

Since: Oct 08

Boggy Creek

#17 May 24, 2012
CODEsapphire wrote:
<quoted text>
now thats pure stupidity of a human being been brainwashed by material objects, we are all animals and its survivel of the fittest a wolf pack hunts for its family a owl hunts to feed, but human these days depend on factorise and junk food, they arnt in the wrong braindwashed beings are, we dont have the rights to turtore and thats what this topic is trying to explain that farms like these must and will but closed down, so what if people loose there jobs, its life over money and money is just one of many examples of man made objects that controle our lives
You are seriously misinformed. Survival of the fittest, by its very nature, negates any rights for anything. In survival of the fittest I can kill you and eat you and everything is good because you weren't fit enough to stop me. Some people depend on factory farming and some don't. I prefer to limit my dependency on factory farming by hunting for my meat as much as possible and gardening for my vegetables as much as I can. You should support people who do this if you want factory farming reforms. You can try to ignore the facts all you want but that won't change the facts. Animals are incapable of understanding and reciprocating "rights" and therefore will never have rights. We can however, give them protections and make some changes in the real world instead of wasting time on an unachievable fantasy.

“Bowhunting Is Euphoric”

Since: Jan 09

Double Lung em

#18 May 24, 2012
CODEsapphire wrote:
<quoted text>
Wishful thinking is world peace, common sense is the fact that more and more people are opening there eyes to this crule world with no meaning
Opening one's eyes means accepting reality. I have no doubt you mean well, dear, but but life is good and life has meaning. You just have to take off the blinders and realize that all creatures (you included) live at the expense of other creatures. There is no life without death and that is a constant that will never change.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#19 May 24, 2012
hiss of death wrote:
<quoted text>Opening one's eyes means accepting reality. I have no doubt you mean well, dear, but but life is good and life has meaning. You just have to take off the blinders and realize that all creatures (you included) live at the expense of other creatures. There is no life without death and that is a constant that will never change.
thats off topic, this is about the farm and its workers being crule for no reason.

“Face The Facts...”

Since: Feb 12

17, Female, UK/England/Derby

#20 May 24, 2012
Squach wrote:
<quoted text>You are seriously misinformed. Survival of the fittest, by its very nature, negates any rights for anything. In survival of the fittest I can kill you and eat you and everything is good because you weren't fit enough to stop me. Some people depend on factory farming and some don't. I prefer to limit my dependency on factory farming by hunting for my meat as much as possible and gardening for my vegetables as much as I can. You should support people who do this if you want factory farming reforms. You can try to ignore the facts all you want but that won't change the facts. Animals are incapable of understanding and reciprocating "rights" and therefore will never have rights. We can however, give them protections and make some changes in the real world instead of wasting time on an unachievable fantasy.
ituation meant life and death of starving that would happen, but whats that got to do with the topic of the workers beating and pigs and caging them in a small space making them go insane

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