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iLBdamiFiNo
Cottage Grove, MN
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Incredible70 wrote: <quoted text> Krist...I never said the word 'greedy', did I? I'll give you a second to read back and check... <Jeopardy music> Ok, back? Now, if you want to understand my point, it is this: Farmers cry every year about how tough it it. Its too wet...its too dry...low yield...high yield so low prices...etc...etc...etc. But it is pretty disingenuous when you drive a $50k truck, just bought a new combine, and live in a new house. That's all. If they can make good money at it, or if they just love doing it, more power to them. But stop whining about it... Its not whining, its gambling. You're playing the odds that mother nature and the market place will cooperate, soooooooooo! If you like to gamble ,,,,try farming!
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Joined: Aug 28, 2009
Comments: 968
Saint Paul, MN
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Cole wrote: <quoted text> you implied greed, pretty simple to connect the dots: Is it ever a good year for farmers? The way they COMPLAIN, you would think they are all STARVING, yet every farm I go buy has a NICE NEW HOUSE AND THOUSANDS of dollars in equipment. I don't get it...if it is such a horrible way to live, then quit and go work for the Ag Department...I'm sure they are hiring... Your comment that EVERY farm you go by (not buy) has a nice new house and thousands of dollars in equipment is completely false. Your comment makes it sounds like they buy a new house, new equipment and new truck every year. Most farmers have an old F150 and thousands of dollars in equipment. OF COURSE THEY WILL HAVE EXPENSIVE EQUIPMENT, they NEED it. I'm sure your work doesn't have dollars worth of equipment, they have thousands of dollars worth of equipment. Like I said, if you're going to complain about farmers complaining about the weather, you start making your own food. Oh, and while you're so pious, make sure you never complain about your job to anyone you know because if those greedy farmers that buy new houses and trucks every year can't complain, neither should you! Simply put, don't bite the hand that feeds you! Hmmmm...me things doth protest too much. How many acres are you tilling this year?
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Grape Shot Jones
Minneapolis, MN
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In Tom Petters words "a bad apple"I hope 1 bad apple doesn't spoil the whole bunch.
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Joined: Jul 24, 2008
Comments: 853
Lino Lakes
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Minneapolis, MN
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Fed up with bailing out wrote: <quoted text> Here's another question. You go into the orchard and the samples are positively delicious. You buy a bag of the same apples and they're nothing like what you tasted coming into their store. If I ever get apples at the orchard again, I'm going to want to pick them myself - fresh off the tree. I suppose they charge a lot that way too, even if you pick them yourself? I remember spending a lot at the apple orchard too. We never went back again. We've got a dwarf McIntosh apple tree that I'd like to start getting some decent apples off of and I want to plant a Honey Crisp tree as well. The apples have been falling off the tree long before they're ready because we haven't sprayed it like they say. I guess I'm a little afraid of the chemicals and haven't used any yet. This year inch worms just tore up the tree. Next year, I'm going to do everything I can to get my own. Looks like Toy Farmer had some good advice. I also have a friend with a horse that eats the apples as soon as they fall. I think that reduces the worm problem too.
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Johnny Appleseed
Minneapolis, MN
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an apple a day keeps the, the, the, I forgot
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Joined: Jul 24, 2008
Comments: 853
Lino Lakes
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Minneapolis, MN
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Johnny Appleseed wrote: an apple a day keeps the, the, the, I forgot An apple a day keeps the Doctor away, and if healthcare passes, I'm switching to 2 apples.
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Cole
Eau Claire, WI
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Incredible70 wrote: <quoted text> Hmmmm...me things doth protest too much. How many acres are you tilling this year? I'm not tilling anything, you don't till apple orchards. I have 3 apple trees, enough for my own consumption. I have my own little personal garden and I bowhunt for meat. I have family who are farms and take offense to your assumptions that all farmers have new houses and trucks. I don't get everything from the land myself, but when I get it from others I don't complain about their work. I don't complain about their 'complaints' about the weather. Like I said, don't bite the hand that feeds you!
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Joined: Aug 28, 2009
Comments: 968
Saint Paul, MN
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Cole wrote: <quoted text> I'm not tilling anything, you don't till apple orchards. I have 3 apple trees, enough for my own consumption. I have my own little personal garden and I bowhunt for meat. I have family who are farms and take offense to your assumptions that all farmers have new houses and trucks. I don't get everything from the land myself, but when I get it from others I don't complain about their work. I don't complain about their 'complaints' about the weather. Like I said, don't bite the hand that feeds you! Well, since I work in the ISP business, don't bite the hand that connects you so you can make posts defending your family's business. You clearly have a personal connection to farming, and are defending it...it isn't your fault you can't see it from other's point of view.
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Cole
Eau Claire, WI
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Incredible70 wrote: <quoted text> Well, since I work in the ISP business, don't bite the hand that connects you so you can make posts defending your family's business. You clearly have a personal connection to farming, and are defending it...it isn't your fault you can't see it from other's point of view. It is actually the other way around, since I have previous experience with farming, I know the woes the field brings. It's better to know about a subject and defend it than to spout off about something you know very little about. That seems like the reasonable thing to do. You don't say doctors can't comment on Public Health Plan cause they are connected to it and isn't their fault they can't see it from others' points of view. Like I've already said, my family may farm, but I do not. I can see it from both points of view, something you cannot say. I share many of the views you do about other topics on this site, but I can't agree with you here.
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Joined: Apr 7, 2009
Comments: 2890
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Incredible70 wrote: <quoted text> We went to Minnesota Harvest in Jordan and got 100 pounds of cooking apples for $75. Same price if you picked them, or bought them already picked. I was shocked at the prices, to be honest. The Honeycrisp was a lot more per pound, but I think in-line with the grocery store. I'm not an apple expert, but don't you need 2 trees at least to get fruit? I thought they needed to cross-pollinate. Any apple tree will do for cross pollination. We already have the McIntosh and there are plenty of crab apple trees all over the city. Just the crab apple trees just in our general area must work because our McIntosh tree gets fruit. I haven't been spraying it and I assume that is the fruit drops as a result. Next year I'm going to plant at least two more apple trees (most likely dwarf or semi-dwarf). Speaking of the Honeycrisp, right now at Target you pay $1.49 a pound. Last year they were as high as $1.79 a pound. You get about two 4 to 5" diameter sized apples for that. I've heard that the Honeycrisp has a few problems/complications as far as growing. I'm going to research and find out what those problems might be before purchasing any to plant. The $75 for 100 pounds of apples seems expensive to me too, but far cheaper then in the grocery stores. There is no food I love better then fresh apples grown in Minnesota, but they have gotten too expensive. I've been buying 2 apples a week. I could afford more, but $1.49 a pound just bothers me, lol!
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Joined: Jul 24, 2008
Comments: 853
Lino Lakes
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Minneapolis, MN
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Fed up with bailing out wrote: <quoted text> Any apple tree will do for cross pollination. We already have the McIntosh and there are plenty of crab apple trees all over the city. Just the crab apple trees just in our general area must work because our McIntosh tree gets fruit. I haven't been spraying it and I assume that is the fruit drops as a result. Next year I'm going to plant at least two more apple trees (most likely dwarf or semi-dwarf). Speaking of the Honeycrisp, right now at Target you pay $1.49 a pound. Last year they were as high as $1.79 a pound. You get about two 4 to 5" diameter sized apples for that. I've heard that the Honeycrisp has a few problems/complications as far as growing. I'm going to research and find out what those problems might be before purchasing any to plant. The $75 for 100 pounds of apples seems expensive to me too, but far cheaper then in the grocery stores. There is no food I love better then fresh apples grown in Minnesota, but they have gotten too expensive. I've been buying 2 apples a week. I could afford more, but $1.49 a pound just bothers me, lol! Cub Stores Honeycrisp are $.88 per lb. now.
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Joined: Apr 7, 2009
Comments: 2890
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Labratt wrote: <quoted text> Cub Stores Honeycrisp are $.88 per lb. now. Wow! Thank you! I shall visit Cub pronto today! I think the reason they are a favored apple is because they stay crisp for a long time - unlike many others that get rather mushy.
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