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Poi wrote:

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You don't know your own history.
Your great grandparents came to Hawaii, the territory stolen by the US, in order to do some temporary work on an temporary contract.
They had no intention of staying and in fact 1/2 of the Japanese workers did either go home or move on to somewhere else.
Your ancestors built their own Japanese only schools so that their kids, your parents etc, could learn and live amongst their own kind until they were able to get back home.
Your ancestors knew they weren't staying, or were extremely racist, because the men refused in intermarry but instead invented a complex elaborate system of importing Japanese only wives.
So your 1st ancestors were the lowest of Japanese society so they had to go abroad to get work. Then the strongest and the smartest of that group in Hawaii were able to get back home or onto better things. That leaves the weakest of the weak still in Hawaii.
Amazing thing is that the Japanese in particular went from complete isolation with their own wives, own schools, own churches in the first part of the 1900s to becoming fake-hawaiian-Wannabees in the second half of the 1990s.
Funny, no?
Seems like a serious identity crisis and a turning of your back you your true ancestors and history.

You don't know your own history.
Your great-great-great-grandparents came to Hawaii, the islands originally settled by us, in order to kill us off and steal our land.
They succeeded.
Unfortunately, the white people came and did the same thing to them.
Funny, no?
Seems like a serious identity crisis and a turning of your back you your true ancestors and history.

OK. Now you can leave. Go.

Poi wrote:

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You don't know your own history.
Your great grandparents came to Hawaii, the territory stolen by the US, in order to do some temporary work on an temporary contract.
They had no intention of staying and in fact 1/2 of the Japanese workers did either go home or move on to somewhere else.
Your ancestors built their own Japanese only schools so that their kids, your parents etc, could learn and live amongst their own kind until they were able to get back home.
Your ancestors knew they weren't staying, or were extremely racist, because the men refused in intermarry but instead invented a complex elaborate system of importing Japanese only wives.
So your 1st ancestors were the lowest of Japanese society so they had to go abroad to get work. Then the strongest and the smartest of that group in Hawaii were able to get back home or onto better things. That leaves the weakest of the weak still in Hawaii.
Amazing thing is that the Japanese in particular went from complete isolation with their own wives, own schools, own churches in the first part of the 1900s to becoming fake-hawaiian-Wannabees in the second half of the 1990s.
Funny, no?
Seems like a serious identity crisis and a turning of your back you your true ancestors and history.

He's got you pegged. You are a race baiter trying to drive wedges between ethnic groups just like the plantation owners did. Unfortunately for you, there are too many kids in Hawaii who are mixed and I doubt that they'll engage in the self loathing that you are trying to inspire. Ohh mama.

Orig Marquesan Settler wrote:

<quoted text>You don't know your own history.
Your great-great-great-grandparents came to Hawaii, the islands originally settled by us, in order to kill us off and steal our land.
They succeeded.
Unfortunately, the white people came and did the same thing to them.
Funny, no?
Seems like a serious identity crisis and a turning of your back you your true ancestors and history.
OK. Now you can leave. Go.

Please provide one piece of anthropological evidence that Marquesans were slaughtered by Hawaiians. Anyone was there? Anyone wrote anything down? Any photos?

You know what?

There is none.

Maybe some mentions in Hawaiian chants but chanting history is never treated as scientific history so why start now.

This is all made up savage tales of the pacific made up to make the new immigrants and Hawaiian wannabees diminish the rightful status that Hawaiians have as the ONLY native people of these islands.

Prove it or shut up.

Poi Blows wrote:

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He's got you pegged. You are a race baiter trying to drive wedges between ethnic groups just like the plantation owners did. Unfortunately for you, there are too many kids in Hawaii who are mixed and I doubt that they'll engage in the self loathing that you are trying to inspire. Ohh mama.

Noticed you didn't try to disagree with any of the multiple points I made.

Just another general "F U".

Typical of your kind.

Poi wrote:

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Please provide one piece of anthropological evidence that Marquesans were slaughtered by Hawaiians. Anyone was there? Anyone wrote anything down? Any photos?
You know what?
There is none.
Maybe some mentions in Hawaiian chants but chanting history is never treated as scientific history so why start now.
This is all made up savage tales of the pacific made up to make the new immigrants and Hawaiian wannabees diminish the rightful status that Hawaiians have as the ONLY native people of these islands.
Prove it or shut up.

Go ask Alice, I think she'll know, when logic......

Let's take this point:

"So your 1st ancestors were the lowest of Japanese society so they had to go abroad to get work. Then the strongest and the smartest of that group in Hawaii were able to get back home or onto better things. That leaves the weakest of the weak still in Hawaii."

I guess it's a good thing that the weakest of the weak are still in Hawaii and are still dominating the Hawaiian Islands despite making up less than 20% of the population. Imagine if the strongest of the strong remained.

Poi Blows wrote:

I guess it's a good thing that the weakest of the weak are still in Hawaii and are still dominating the Hawaiian Islands despite making up less than 20% of the population. Imagine if the strongest of the strong remained.

I agree with that.

Would probably have ovens to rid the place of lower life forms and all the women would serve as sex slaves like in WWII.

Thankfully we got the weak ones who just use their racist solidarity to control everything.

Okay, never mind. AJA's in Hawaii are good for Hawaii.

By the power invested in me, I now proclaim all AJAs in Hawai'i actual, real, authentic Hawaiians.

Here's another one:

"Your ancestors built their own Japanese only schools so that their kids, your parents etc, could learn and live amongst their own kind until they were able to get back home."

How is this any different from the Italians who immigrated to America? This is from Wikipidea:

From 1890 to 1900, 655,888 immigrants arrived in the United States, of which two-thirds were men. The main reasons for Italian immigration were the poor economic conditions in Italy during this period, particularly in the southern regions. In the United States, Italians settled in and dominated specific neighborhoods (often called "Little Italy"), where they could interact with one another, establish a familiar cultural presence, and find favorite foods.

Here's something about the Irish from http://library.thinkquest.org/20619/Irish.htm... :

In years after 1860, Irish Immigration persisted. More than 2.6 million Irish came in the decades after 1860. However, larger numbers of immigrants from elsewhere masked the inflow of Irish people. Those Irish who did continue to flow into the U.S. tended to settle in the already existing Irish communities, where Catholic Churches had been built, and cultural traditions were carried out. However materialistically poor they were, the Irish were rich in cultural resources, developing institutions that helped them face hardship without despair. Cultural events such as St. Patrick's Day were regarded by most Americans as evidence of the separateness of these immigrants, but helped hold the Irish culture together. Their desire for self-expression showed that the Irish understood their group identity. Poor as they were, they drew strength from a culture that explained their situation in the world and provided spiritual resources to face if not to solve the problem.

So, despite your racist rhetoric, the Japanese experience as immigrants is similar in pattern to other ethnic groups in America. You seem to have a particularly strong resentment towards Japanese Americans, which can only be explained by your romantic overtures to some Plantation Asian boy being rejected. Hey, can't blow 'em all, mama poi.

Poi wrote:

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I agree with that.
Would probably have ovens to rid the place of lower life forms and all the women would serve as sex slaves like in WWII.
Thankfully we got the weak ones who just use their racist solidarity to control everything.
Okay, never mind. AJA's in Hawaii are good for Hawaii.
By the power invested in me, I now proclaim all AJAs in Hawai'i actual, real, authentic Hawaiians.

Was that an F-U? You gotta work on your approach. You'll never get a Plantation Asian boy with all that hostility.

Poi Blows wrote:

So, despite your racist rhetoric,

Yep,

I'm the racist.

That's right.

Poi wrote:

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Would probably have ovens to rid the place of lower life forms and all the women would serve as sex slaves like in WWII.

I know the Japanese had sex slaves during WWII, but it was the Germans who used ovens. Hey, good thing for you because as a lower life form, you'd be one of the first to go.

Poi Blows wrote:

Here's another one:
How is this any different from the Italians who immigrated to America? This is from Wikipidea:From 1890 to 1900, 655,888 immigrants arrived in the United States, of which two-thirds were men.

Very different you buffoon.

Sure, Italians lived in the same communities. "little Italy".

But most forbid their children from speaking Italian. They wanted their children to assimilate into the host culture. As far as I know, the Italian men didn't invent an Italian Woman importing business the way your ancestors did. Pure racism on your part but I'm sure you will deny it.

Your ancestors built dozens of Japanese ONLY schools so that their children would not have to learn the dirty English or the lowly Hawaiian.

Get the diff?

Probably not.

Poi wrote:

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Very different you buffoon.
Sure, Italians lived in the same communities. "little Italy".
But most forbid their children from speaking Italian. They wanted their children to assimilate into the host culture. As far as I know, the Italian men didn't invent an Italian Woman importing business the way your ancestors did. Pure racism on your part but I'm sure you will deny it.
Your ancestors built dozens of Japanese ONLY schools so that their children would not have to learn the dirty English or the lowly Hawaiian.
Get the diff?
Probably not.

Wrong again. From Wikipedia:
Many Italian immigrants arrived with little cash or cultural capital (that is, they were not educated) since most had been peasant farmers in Italy, they lacked craft skills and, therefore, generally performed manual labor. Civic and social life flourished in Italian-American neighborhoods, with many people belonging to hometown societies. Chain migration that brought many people from a particular town or region to the same American neighborhood meant that even new immigrants had extensive social networks which helped in the adjustment to America. Many Italians arrived in the United States hoping to earn enough money to return home and set themselves up in a business or with a farm. Among immigrant groups to America, Italians had the highest rate of returning to the old country.

Poi Blows wrote:

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Wrong again. From Wikipedia:
Many Italian immigrants arrived with little cash or cultural capital (that is, they were not educated) since most had been peasant farmers in Italy, they lacked craft skills and, therefore, generally performed manual labor. Civic and social life flourished in Italian-American neighborhoods, with many people belonging to hometown societies. Chain migration that brought many people from a particular town or region to the same American neighborhood meant that even new immigrants had extensive social networks which helped in the adjustment to America. Many Italians arrived in the United States hoping to earn enough money to return home and set themselves up in a business or with a farm. Among immigrant groups to America, Italians had the highest rate of returning to the old country.

Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

Stick that head a little deeper brah.

You can't read.

Poi wrote:

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Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
Stick that head a little deeper brah.
You can't read.

Another general F-U? As you say, typical racist response. Wassamatta with you? Oh, you want me to stick something deeper into your what? Sorry, that's not for me. I'm sure that some Plantation Asian boy will accommodate you, but you gotta work on that approach. heh heh.

Poi wrote:

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Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
Stick that head a little deeper brah.
You can't read.

U just got pwnd, loser. Give up already. Try another topic - maybe you'll get lucky and there won't be any educated people there.