Teacher motivation focus of plan

OMG --- Do you really mean that there are un-motivated teachers?

Now, who would have guessed, based on their salary demands, in whatever district !!!

What is missing is a method for teachers to evaluate the performance of administrators. How about a method that lets the teachers and staff rate the superintendent and his cohorts?

I thought they WERE already motivated:

- Annual salary increases way beyond other local business, each year

- An advantegous health care plan for them and their family members

- Almost no fear or threat of being suddenly terminated or let go, unlike many who work at any local business

- NOT subject to the whims of the global economy, a slow business market, or reduced consumer or business spending

- Top recreational and sports facilities (especially at the Admin. Building with their state-of-the-art work out facility and top-of-the-line office furniture)

- A 9-month per year job, free to work any other employment those 3 months they are "off" from school

- A vastly improved, modernized or new very comfortable work environment

- A highly powerful, influential state union standing ready to protect their job security at a moment's notice

Hmmm ... I think most folks would already consider themselves to be pretty well "motivated" under such circumstances in their workplace.

And now they promote the angle that its up to the students to perform and not the paid teaching staff:

"Education is more about what the kids are doing and less about what the teacher is doing," Bigger said. "We want kids learning, not just teachers teaching."

Hallejuah, Brothers and Sisters.
My God, I think I need a drink!!

LOL

Now I think JETTAGRE has a great idea. It's about time the teachers evaluated the administration and results reported to the public. This new idea of theirs sounds like it will take time from the teacher's schedule of planning the daily lessons and duties. So the students are the ones that will be deprived again.

All any school administrator has to do is walk through a building while classes are in session, and glance into the classrooms. He/she can tell instantly where learning is taking place! These big, complicated, expensive, time consuming, and PR promotional methods of evaluation are really not necessary!

Another ill conceived idea by CASD administrators who have too much free time on their hands. You gotta remember that with all of these assistant/associate superintendents, they must justify their existence, even if that means creating initiatives that take more time from actual teaching/learning!

If they must do this stuff, why not try it at ONE school for a year or so, then if it works, expand the program. Don't screw up the whole district.

We all had the chance to go to school and become a teacher. If you are complaining about teachers' compensation, then maybe you should have chosen a different career path. I know many teachers who put a lot of long hours into their work before and after school, and yes, even in the summer. They are also required to have continuous training throughout their career.

Amen,'Your decision'! Perhaps most of these complainers are dissatisfied with their chosen careers or jobs and could be just a tad envious of teachers' compensation?? Or a LOT! Methinks soooooooooooooo.

Your Decision wrote:

We all had the chance to go to school and become a teacher. If you are complaining about teachers' compensation, then maybe you should have chosen a different career path. I know many teachers who put a lot of long hours into their work before and after school, and yes, even in the summer. They are also required to have continuous training throughout their career.

it's not the compensation, it's the constant increases and drain on my finances especially when there are un-motivated teachers sucking up my tax dollars along with the good ones.
But you can't fire them as private industry would fire an 'unmotivated' employee.

With 4% increases yearly you won't be satisfied until your salary reaches that of millionaires. I doubt even then, some of you will be satisifed!

So much for your union!

Ol Barney wrote:

Another ill conceived idea by CASD administrators who have too much free time on their hands. You gotta remember that with all of these assistant/associate superintendents, they must justify their existence, even if that means creating initiatives that take more time from actual teaching/learning!
If they must do this stuff, why not try it at ONE school for a year or so, then if it works, expand the program. Don't screw up the whole district.

And most of these administrators were terrible teachers when they were in the classroom! And if they returned to the classroom they would be terrible again!

If and I say IF there are any motivation problems, it started with this new team of administrators. Yes Joe Pa ,moral is down because you have no idea how to deal with people. Maybe a retreat is in order so you guys can come up with some new ways to waste taxpayers money?

Do any of you smartmouths have a brilliant idea of how to measure a teacher's worth?

wert987sg wrote:

Do any of you smartmouths have a brilliant idea of how to measure a teacher's worth?

In any case it should not be left up to the teachers or the union to dictate their worth!

Maybe a survey of "All" business who hire college grads and average out the findings. That will have them in a uproar because they feel they are superior to other grads. ie responsibility for our children bla bla bla.

After hiring then they go on the merit pay system. Either produce educated students or leave.

Does that answer your question or do you want to argue smart mouth!

Lil John wrote:

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it's not the compensation, it's the constant increases and drain on my finances especially when there are un-motivated teachers sucking up my tax dollars along with the good ones.
But you can't fire them as private industry would fire an 'unmotivated' employee.
With 4% increases yearly you won't be satisfied until your salary reaches that of millionaires. I doubt even then, some of you will be satisifed!
So much for your union!

Let's not forget that these teachers also pay taxes! Yet their raises are hardly enough to keep up all of the classroom supplies that they must purchase out of their own pockets because they are no longer supplied by the districts. Teacher deserve raises just as those in the private sector do!

Get a Life wrote:

<quoted text>Let's not forget that these teachers also pay taxes! Yet their raises are hardly enough to keep up all of the classroom supplies that they must purchase out of their own pockets because they are no longer supplied by the districts. Teacher deserve raises just as those in the private sector do!

you're telling us that the school doesn't suppy the classes with what they need --- please!

show me where the taxpayers , with the exception of the teachers of course, are getting a constant 4% plus increase year after year-- again please!

Get a Life wrote:

<quoted text>Let's not forget that these teachers also pay taxes! Yet their raises are hardly enough to keep up all of the classroom supplies that they must purchase out of their own pockets because they are no longer supplied by the districts. Teacher deserve raises just as those in the private sector do!

I used 36,000 as the lowest salary and 4% of that is what?

You are trying to say that 1440.00 is being used on the supplies. Bull!!!

What are you calling supplies?

Green with:
To answer your question about envy of your job --

LOL .... Hardly. Flatly NO.

What I am envious of, is a broken system, which takes more and more of my hard-earned money every year - to perpetuate its ills, its out-of-control spending, and its out-moded way of doing business. And the union that supports bad teachers and keeps doing business "the same old same old way."

You teachers should just be replaced - NOW.

The Internet can do all that you all claim to do.

If you disagree, then spend within a budget once -why don't ya??

I am a teacher. I find "Stinkeye's" post quite amusing. I am truly motivated about my job but it has nothing to do with the "perks" he/she thinks all teachers receive. I love my job, if I didn't, I would have quit years ago. I'll be the first to admit that there are some that are 8am-3pm teachers. I'm not one of them. Many people think I just sit around all summer and relax. I am not taking a vacation this year. Why? I am working 2 summer jobs and am taking 2 college courses to keep up with new developments in my subject area. Oh and by the way, I pay property taxes as well.

With my degree, I could have chosen private sector employment as well as a salary 2x what I make now. Why teach? I like the job. I wish somehow that the public could really see what it is like in a school. I don't mean a parental tour once a year, I mean a typical day. I wish people could understand what it is like to run to Staples or Target to buy materials for a science experiment you want to teach your kids but since the school doesn't have the supplies, you foot the bill, to buy a pair of sneakers for a kid so he/she can participate in sports, to just be an ear to listen to because that child doesn't feel anyone else cares. I'm not mentioning this stuff to attract sympathy. I knew these things were "part of the job." I just wish that all the people that are first in line to bash educators could truly see what it is like. Remember, there are people in every line of work that tarnish the reputation of the whole bunch. There are reality shows for everything on tv now, I wish they'd come up with something like this to shed light on what its like.

I don't think this whole observation process is a bad idea. It can be a good thing to have an outside set of eyes evaluate and offer feedback to your style of teaching. Hopefully the idea will somehow be expanded to include administrators.

Let's trim some of the administration. Those $100,000 plus salaries are not justified in this area.

Stinkeye wrote:

I thought they WERE already motivated:
- Annual salary increases way beyond other local business, each year
- An advantegous health care plan for them and their family members
- Almost no fear or threat of being suddenly terminated or let go, unlike many who work at any local business
- NOT subject to the whims of the global economy, a slow business market, or reduced consumer or business spending
- Top recreational and sports facilities (especially at the Admin. Building with their state-of-the-art work out facility and top-of-the-line office furniture)
- A 9-month per year job, free to work any other employment those 3 months they are "off" from school
- A vastly improved, modernized or new very comfortable work environment
- A highly powerful, influential state union standing ready to protect their job security at a moment's notice
Hmmm ... I think most folks would already consider themselves to be pretty well "motivated" under such circumstances in their workplace.
And now they promote the angle that its up to the students to perform and not the paid teaching staff:
"Education is more about what the kids are doing and less about what the teacher is doing," Bigger said. "We want kids learning, not just teachers teaching."
Hallejuah, Brothers and Sisters.
My God, I think I need a drink!!
LOL

Why aren't you a teacher? If it is such a glorious path to easy street why do you do what ever it is you do?