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#21281 Aug 7, 2012
Sorry. We don't get the "Sun." Very few people realize what is going on. If these allegations are true, hopefully specific names will be mentioned and brought to justice.
It appears that Holtrey wasn't involved but should have been more of a "hands on" person regarding fund-raising activities.
#21282 Aug 7, 2012
Isn't it obvious that Mr. Holtrey and Mr. Baker ignored the legal by-laws and policies that were set to hold the boosters fundraising business accountable to the school districts elected officials?
And why did Mr. Holtrey and Mr. Baker run the boosters fundraising business their way, instead of the right way?
Because they could get away with it!...but why?
...because the five BOE elected officials prior to 2010 were too lazy to serve our school children and community in the best interest of all; and therefore, just rubber stamped everything that Baker/Dettwiller/Long/Holtrey told them to do at public meetings.
Not one BOE member questioned Baker/Dettwiller/Long/Holtrey; until Kelly Kohls came on board in 2010 and started asking questions, exercising strong principles of representing our children's best interest first....
This close knit community of status quo "supporters" doing business as usual, could only hold on to their corrupt power IF there were no questions raised about their unethical and illegal practices. The first "crack" in the rotten eggs came with Craig Colston resigning in disgrace; and then the rotten egg stinkers really started cracking as Dettwiller, Baker, and Holtrey followed...
Now that we know the truth;
why were these close-knit community members protesting on July 31 "against the board" doing what's right for our school children and community as a whole?
Why do these close-knit community bullies continue wasting taxpayers time and money at our business meetings "making the case".... that our new board majority should continue the same old failed leadership as our former board members and former school administrators? Like that's going to happen!
#21283 Aug 7, 2012
"Throughout history, it has been the INACTION of those who could have acted...
...the indifference of those who should have known better...
...the silence of the voice of justice when it matters most...
...that has made it possible for evil to triumph."
Excuse me, but Mr. Holtrey WAS involved.
During the time our close-knit community bullies were promoting school levies, based on fake budget crisis, holding parents (and tax payers)hostage over things like busing and activities;
Our athletic director, Mr. Holtrey, and our entire school staff of administrators were receiving pay raises, year after year, while spreading lies throughout our community trying to discredit the leadership of school board member, Kelly Kohls; using mean spirited personal attacks; in efforts to distract community members from Mrs. Kohls' strong leadership principles of representing our children first.
Get Real.....Excuse me, but Mr. Holtrey was (and is) involved! And, even now that we know the truth, Mr. Holtrey has lost all creditbility in our school district as a fit role model for our children and community members. Why should Springboro families and taxpaying homeowners pay the salaries of school employees who have fallen to less than the best standard of ethical practices?
Why is Mr. Holtrey allowing these bully attacks (such as July 31) to continue on his behalf for "special" employer-employee econsideration? Just because he failed to do his job as Athletic Director; and then resigned as AD to avoid questions?
Get Real! Mr. Holtrey has caused enough harm to our school districts' athletic program and the reputation of our Springboro Community. Where's the "good sportsmanship" model of accepting failure while maintaining your dignity and respect for yourself?
#21284 Aug 7, 2012
My question (and that of others)...was Mr. Holtrey DIRECTLY involved in the misappropriation of funds? Did he know about these things and "look the other way"?
Were his "lies" in writing and what were they and where can we find a copy? Why do I ask? So we can inform those that are not aware of this.
#21285 Aug 7, 2012
Thank goodness, stupidity like the above comment is confined to the "close knit community" of bullies, rallying for failure of the current good leadership of our school board representatives.
Obviously the answer to your questions can be found with all those missing financial records and thousands of dollars in unaccountable funds.
So, which one of you "close-knit" community members are lying?
Why do we ask?
So that we can inform those in authority who are investigating this fundraising business which is now under "scrutiny."
#21286 Aug 7, 2012
If you are responsible for something, and you do not do it, like overseeing the boosters, and making sure that the coaches are doing their fundraising properly, then it is a form of dereliction of duty.
If you are also a coach, then you should know the rules better than any of the other coaches, and not keep off the books accounts and not use the Boosters tax ID.
As AD, it appears that by doing nothing, bad things happened. The school missed out on between approximately $1.5 to $2 million over eight years from the Boosters.
As AD, along with the other ADs over the time period, all the fundraising by the students and parents, for both individual sports and Booster multi-sport fundraisers, is not accounted for.
As AD, he set the pay to play amount without being able to give a single reason for the amount. All parents who inquired were not given a response. The amount of $475 seemed arbitrary at best.
As a coach, he did not run basketball camps and fundraisers using the rules set by the BOE. The funds collected by him, and all other coaches, are nowhere to be found. They were required to complete fundraising documents, deposit with the Treasurer and spend according to rules set bt the BOE.
So, if you are the responsible party, it is in your job description, you are being paid to perform these duties and you do nothing, does that limit your responsibility? If you see someone doing something wrong, and it is your job to supervise them, are you responsible? I think so.
#21287 Aug 7, 2012
My question (and others who strongly trust our new board's handling of our school's financial and personnel matters) simply put, IS....
Why doesn't Mr. Holtrey DIRECTLY answer YOUR
Would not Mr. Holtrey be the right person to DIRECTLY come forth IN WRITING with a COPY of his records of the proper "appropriation of funds" for which Mr. Holtrey was DIRECTLY responsible for "appropriating" properly; and in accordance to legal and etichical by-laws and polices of board authority?
Dodge Ball Game Over for Mr. Holtrey. Time Now to Even Up the
Score; so that doing what's right for our school children and community WINS over failed leadership of the past (which is still hurting our children).
#21288 Aug 7, 2012
Some already have. Last year I bought concessions from Kelly Kohls while attending a weekday varsity game.
#21290 Aug 7, 2012
To "Answer": Thanks for a straightforward good answer!
To "Common Sense": Your pompous demeanor helps nobody. Oddly, we are on the same side of things but your delivery needs work. Lighten up Francis!
#21291 Aug 7, 2012
Were you sitting with the close-knit group of "rude ones" that were asked by a board member to listen respectfully while other participants in the meeting were talking?...And were you the ONE who followed as minority board member, Don Miller, left his chair and walkied out of the LGI room? What was up with that smirk that you and good ole boy Don exchanged?
Were you reporting the "tally up" to Don Miller before each of you returned, separately, to your respective seats in the LGI room?
What's Up with that immature behavior in a public meeting?
#21293 Aug 7, 2012
Absolutely not. There is nothing but speculation on this in order to be able to remove a coach to place a friend of a board member in the position. The removal of coach Holtrey is being done at this time to attempt to make him appear as though he had something to do with booster financials, which he did not. There is no proof, just speculation. Show the proof or shut up with your opinions that are only being put on here to protect the board from yet another means of change for their own personal agendas. So when does Don's buddy start coaching? Again we have yet another personal agenda being fulfilled while a decent man is being dragged through the dirt. You must be a very proud board. Ruin a man's reputation for your own friend's personal gain. Yet another embarrassing, disgusting move. Just wait for elections.
Since: Apr 09
#21294 Aug 7, 2012
And you now this to be 100% true how? Are YOU not dealing in “nothing but speculation”?
More speculation on YOUR part?
More speculation on YOUR part? Although he was AD during the longest time that much of this ongoing incident occurred. Not saying that he is guilty of any wrongdoing, other than providing what appears to be a general lack of oversight during his tenure.
2 things which you seem to be (A). short of in the latter and (B). long on in the former.
Wow, now there's a large pile of steaming speculation on YOUR part. Perhaps you could show just an iota of proof that he was not even 0.00000001% responsible in some way for the mess the athletic dept now finds themselves mired in.
Who is Don's buddy? More speculation on YOUR part on him/her getting the head coaching job?
Is this where we are suppose to shut up with our opinions...only so we can listen to your unsubstantiated ones?
You seem very sure of yourself...very short on supporting arguments for all your speculation and opinions. I am not saying that Mr. Holtrey is or is not guilty of anything anyone is saying or not saying. Only pointing out that your support of himbefore all the facts come out, although admirable, is no different than anyone else’s speculations, opinions and question asking.
BTW…Whose reputation is “ruined”?
#21295 Aug 7, 2012
Miller's Buddy ?
#21296 Aug 7, 2012
If it is all speculation, then where is the SAB money for the last eight years? And do you really think that Troy's BFF the police chief will be able to find it? Or even try to find it? The proof is that there is NO MONEY!!!
#21297 Aug 7, 2012
Sorry to disappoint you, but that wasn't me!!!!
#21298 Aug 7, 2012
Yes?? Yes? is that you, yes?...standing behind all those exclamation points?
#21299 Aug 7, 2012
Real Story, are you the real coach Holtrey? Only the real coach Holtrey can speak with certainty telling the real true story, with proof.
All other stories, including Real Story, are really Just Speculation with No Proof that they are the real coach Holtrey telling the real story.
#21300 Aug 7, 2012
Hey football 87 --
Answer seems to have scored Touchdown.
What say ye? on behalf of Real Story and Coach Troy?
No more speculation.. just the proof.
#21301 Aug 7, 2012
"Show Us The Money." Very appropriate name for this discussion!
I do see your point, Of course, keep in mind that missing money is easy to point out. Proving why it's missing and where it ended up is a big challenge.
My motive is clear (in case that has been lost in the shuffle). If a crime has been committed, prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. No matter who it is.
And of course, a great football season would be nice as well. Not asking too much. 8-2 will do.
#21302 Aug 7, 2012
Lots of common sense people know exactly what is going on; AND it is agreed that "Holtrey wasn't involved" in doing what's right for our school children and community; but had his "hands in" the fund-raising activities. Isn't it time for Holtrey to shoot for the "goal" now and Show Us the Money?
btw -- you can pick up the Sun for free at local business places or "read all about making the case" on the Springboro Sun website.
No need going around with tunnel vision -- Enlighten yourself before telling others ...."it appears...."
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