Conservatives Lose It Over Romney's Gaffe: "I'm Not Concerned About the Very Poor."

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Oscar wrote:

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Not true. If that is the case then you can say that most of the Bush debt was Clinton debt and so on.
In fact much of the Bush debt was paid for by a significant rise in GDP during the time he was in office. That is why the national debt as a percentage of GDP was not much higher when Bush left office than it was when Clinton left office.
The large bank bailout that Bush put together at the end of his term has been mostly repaid so that none of it is reflected in the national debt that the Obama administration has wrung up.

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Oscar wrote:

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Not true. If that is the case then you can say that most of the Bush debt was Clinton debt and so on.
In fact much of the Bush debt was paid for by a significant rise in GDP during the time he was in office. That is why the national debt as a percentage of GDP was not much higher when Bush left office than it was when Clinton left office.
The large bank bailout that Bush put together at the end of his term has been mostly repaid so that none of it is reflected in the national debt that the Obama administration has wrung up.

swedenforever wrote:

War spending in Dubya 2:
"The most recent major report on these costs come from Brown University in the form of the Costs of War project,[1] which said the total for wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan is at least $3.2-4 trillion.[2] The report disavowed previous estimates of the Iraq"

Oscar wrote:

<quoted text>As for my clients and what they pay in taxes...I guess you don't know anyone who has an income in the top 10%.

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Chicago Guy wrote:

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1) You said there was "no evidence" that wealth was being re-distributed from the poor and middle class to the wealthy due to our current tax code and policies. My point addressed that specifically. Now your taking my statement and claiming it's "envy" and features "less reality". Which makes no sense, at all. Do you acknowledge the FACT that the income disparity between the wealthiest 1% is greater than any time since the Great Depression, or do you not?
2)Is that why Mitt Romney pays 13.9% in taxes on an income of $11 million, which he did nothing whatsoever to earn (it was paid out of a blind trust), yet someone making $190K pays 33% on their salary? And why do you talk about "the percentage of all taxes" the wealthy paid going up, as if it's relevant, yet ignore the fact that the growing income disparity gap causes it? That's nonsensical, and devoid of reason.
3)REALLY? "No one's talking about the EITC"?? Is that why you and every other conservative boob parrots the notion about "50% of Americans paying no income tax", and pols from Romney to Bachmann to Ryan to Boehner saying that the poor "need to get some skin in the game" on taxes? Your position lacks credibility. And BTW-- I have never taken a single dollar in assistance, in my life. So you've NEVER bought me anything. Welfare is not a Democratic phenomenon. LOTS of poor conservative red-staters get it, too.
4) Wait. You failed to acknowledge this one, altogether. Didn't bother to address that the Bush tax cuts were WRITTEN TO BE TEMPORARY, because they knew if they were extended the deficit would skyrocket. So what happened, Genius? Why is it fair to keep letting the rich pay less, and get more... while WE all pay for their tax breaks, in the form of $750 BILLION of new debt that goes onto the deficit. You've never bought ME a damn thing-- but you are continuing to pay for that extra 3.6% that people like Romney, Buffet, Soros, etc. all get. Try a dose of reality.

Nation of Imbeciles wrote:

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You have no idea who I know, what I know, or who I am. I know that I'm a lot sharper than you which tells me a lot about you. I know enough about the tax code to know that you're dead wrong on all of your comments which proves to me that you're another internet phony.
In fact, I've never anyone much less an accountant who has absurdly suggested all of their clients and friends are paying more than 50% of their incomes in STATE and FEDERAL Taxes even though the AVERAGE FEDERAL RATE for EVERYONE in the UPPER INCOME GROUP in the STATE of VERMONT is less than 20%. Romney is less than 20%. I posted the IRS link proving you wrong. Yet you obstinately keep repeating the same lies over and over as if we will all finally cave and fall for your BS.
You're a real loser. I hope that makes you happy.

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Federal tax ...35% Vermont income tax 9% Local property tax averages 3% and the taxes on gas and sales taxes....another 3 to 5%..Vermont is the highest taxed state in the country.

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Kamil wrote:

Romney is not concerned about USA, US nation, he is not concerned about middle class and about working class and about poor class. He is concerned about wars and about money for his fellows global, criminal speculators.
USA and ,,the rest of the world,, will not survive the next global disaster. It is very bad and poor situation now and it need immediate restoring and improvement.

Nation of Imbeciles wrote:

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You are just completely incorrect again! you are feverishly and desperatlely trying to throw in the kitchen sink in a feigned effort to rehabilitate your pathetic image on accuracy and truth in these forums. I'm surprised you didn't include Vermont's onerous alcohol taxes or the cigarette taxes.
*Federal tax...in Vermont, it is less than 20% OVERALL RATE for the top 1% of filers -- NOT 35%-- Nationally, it is 22%.
*Vermont income tax...the TOP TAX RATE is ACTUALLY 8.95% BUT is ALL deductible against FEDERAL INCOME TAXES as an ITEMIZATION. Vermont also pegs the tax rate to FEDERALLY taxable income.
According to Forbes:
$250K Income earners, Vermont does NOT RANK in the top ten:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleaebeling/201...
$500K Income earners, Vermont ranks #8:
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mjh45ehed/no-8...
$1,000,000 Income earners, Vermont ranks #7:
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mjh45ehef/no-7...
*Vermont local property tax averages 2%, at least in Burlington, Vermont:
*Home valued at $2 million with homestead exemption
*Property Tax Calculation
-Municipal Taxes 0.7280 x ($2,000,000 / 100)$14,560.00
-Education Taxes 1.3019 x ($2,000,000 / 100)$26,038.00
*Total Property Taxes $40,598.00
*Vermont Fuel Taxes is $0.2613 cents per gallon which is added to the Federal Fuels Tax rate of $0.184 cents per gallon, or a total of $0.4453 cents per gallon. This is not the highest in the US.
*Vermont Sales Taxes are 6% and is certainly NOT the highest.

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by the numbers wrote:

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http://www.costofwar.com

Oscar the INEPT MORON wrote:

<quoted text>...Vermont is always listed in the top ten in highest taxed states...

Oscar the TRUE IMBECILE wrote:

<quoted text>You liberals want to point out...

Oscar the DESPERATE VAGRANT wrote:

<quoted text>I think you should go get a second job so you can contribute more taxes to run our country. Is there any reason you can't earn more money and pay more in taxes?

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Nation of Imbeciles wrote:

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No one is FORCING YOU to live in Vermont. Are you just used to being called stupid? If you move 20 to 30 miles EAST of RUTLAND VERMONT, you are then living in one of the few lowest taxes states where there is NO INCOME TAX -- New Hampshire.
Moreover, should the federal government base its tax policy on how high state taxes are in one's locale? What kind of lightweights do you have in Vermont where you can't influence tax policy? If Vermont's taxes are some of the highest, then the MAJORITY of voters in Vermont must really like that or they wouldn't live there. That makes you a nobody Oscar. Why are you still there?
We BOTH know that YOU are a LOW FIVE FIGURE RUBE barely winging it here on Topix. You are real a loser. There's really, really STUPID and then there is YOU, Oscar.
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I have mentioned to you in two previous posts that I am a CONSERVATIVE and live in Texas. Are you like a trained monkey who simply snaps at your opponent and accuses them of being liberal? Is this what you're made of in real life? Would you like a lifeline, perhaps you would like to call Sean Hannity? If you cannot get the BS past me then how do you expect to convince any of your opponents to switch sides?
By the way, the same partisan sniping that you posted above is atypical of a FOX Knowledge Network (FKN) graduate. You're not here to understand jack all. You're just here to play the role of Oscar the blowhard loser who just had a fresh faceful of feces blown his way while watching the FOX channel.
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Oscar, the truth is that I very likely make much more money than you do and pay incredibly more taxes than you do except that they are not Vermont taxes. The difference between you and I is that I have tried to treat you as an equal and painstakingly offered links to support everything I posted for you.
YOU, on the other hand, are yet another pathetic communicator and an angry person inside. You don't get this kind of attitude from reading a few business journals. You get it from letting the lowlifes on FOX News excite your imagination. In turn, you log on to Topix and decide to repeat the same partisan rhetoric hoping to snag a few dead fish.
The bad news is that you're a moron. The really great news is that there are millions just like you all across America.
Thanks largely to the vitriolic partisan bickerers like yourself, that worthless president is going to get re-elected thanks to the not-so-smart crackpots like yourself who have been scaring away all of the possible voters who would have once voted him out.
If Obama gets re-elected, then I am blaming your sorry, worthless ass for helping him win. You are just another phony RINO/TINO LOSER.

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Oscar wrote:

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I will say it again. There is no evidence that the rich have taken income from the middle class. The US economy saw the greatest expansion that any economy has seen in the history of the world during the last 30 years. The US has dominated the expansion of the world's economy and had derived tremendous total wealth from it as new wealthy was created. If the rich have a larger percentage but the total is also much greater why did it have to come from the middle class? If our middle class is rich...and it is the richest middle class in the history of the world how does it matter that rich people have more. Why do you care what someone else has as long as you have enough? Why aren't you blessed by the fact that the top ten percent of all income tax payers pay 70% of all the taxes?
Your perspective is not honest. If you had ten million dollars in the stock market and it made a million dollars in dividends would you be arguing that the dividend tax should be higher? Especially since dividends are distributions of corporate cash on which the corporations already paid 39% in income tax?
Of course you wouldn't. You are singing a song of envy whether you want to admit it or not.

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<quoted text>Typical......edit away and report an untruth. Liberals won't take the time to listen to the whole interview....let alone the entire SENTENCE. I heard the entire interview and followed what he was saying without losing it.
Even the headline of this thread is misleading. But...it will fool many

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maninfl wrote:

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Did someone foget thier meds before they wrote this ??

Kamil wrote:

Romney is not concerned about USA, US nation, he is not concerned about middle class and about working class and about poor class. He is concerned about wars and about money for his fellows global, criminal speculators.
USA and ,,the rest of the world,, will not survive the next global disaster. It is very bad and poor situation now and it need immediate restoring and improvement.