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Retired and Loving It
Palos Verdes Peninsula, CA
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GCw wrote: <quoted text>Potheads have blood on their hands for patronizing the cartels and fueling their violence. You cannot deny that. Actually I can and I will. I will start with a little bit of a history lesson. In 1920 under heavy pressure from the temperance movement, the United States enacted the 18th amendment making alcohol illegal. In 1933 it was repealed by the 21st amendment. Can you guess what happened during this 13 year span? An extremely profitable, often violent, black market for alcohol flourished. Powerful gangs corrupted law enforcement agencies, leading to racketeering. High proof liquor surged in popularity because its potency made it more profitable to smuggle. Al Capone came to lead one of the largest crime syndicates the United States has ever seen. Capone was in control of large portions of the Chicago bootlegging and smuggling operations, which provided his gang with an estimated $100 million per year. Some time during this period the mob wars ensued leaving the citizens of Chicago in danger and in fear. Sorta reminiscent to whats going on now in Mexico. Anyways, lets get to the point. When repeal of Prohibition occurred in 1933, organized crime lost nearly all of its black market alcohol profits. You see, it is not the marijuana user who is to blame for the cartel violence, it is the laws prohibiting marijuana. The largest cash crop in the United States as well as California is marijuana. What that means is most marijuana consumed in the United states is also produced in the United states. All the while it remains illegal. This is great for criminals! They make billions of dollars while we waste billions trying to fight them. Its a very lucrative and destructive cycle. We call it the War on Drugs. If you believe the legal status of a substance effects its demand you are dead wrong. In fact since Nixon first used the term The War on Drugs in 1969, demand and supply have both increased drastically. The thought of a drug free society is absolutely ludicrous. There has never been a drug free society nor will there ever be one. You are asinine to think otherwise. You see it is not me who has blood on my hands. It is you. Please do some research next time you decide to make such an insane, invalid, and incendiary comment.
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man bear pig
Santa Fe Springs, CA
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Retired and Loving It wrote: <quoted text> Actually I can and I will. I will start with a little bit of a history lesson. In 1920 under heavy pressure from the temperance movement, the United States enacted the 18th amendment making alcohol illegal. In 1933 it was repealed by the 21st amendment. Can you guess what happened during this 13 year span? An extremely profitable, often violent, black market for alcohol flourished. Powerful gangs corrupted law enforcement agencies, leading to racketeering. High proof liquor surged in popularity because its potency made it more profitable to smuggle. Al Capone came to lead one of the largest crime syndicates the United States has ever seen. Capone was in control of large portions of the Chicago bootlegging and smuggling operations, which provided his gang with an estimated $100 million per year. Some time during this period the mob wars ensued leaving the citizens of Chicago in danger and in fear. Sorta reminiscent to whats going on now in Mexico. Anyways, lets get to the point. When repeal of Prohibition occurred in 1933, organized crime lost nearly all of its black market alcohol profits. You see, it is not the marijuana user who is to blame for the cartel violence, it is the laws prohibiting marijuana. The largest cash crop in the United States as well as California is marijuana. What that means is most marijuana consumed in the United states is also produced in the United states. All the while it remains illegal. This is great for criminals! They make billions of dollars while we waste billions trying to fight them. Its a very lucrative and destructive cycle. We call it the War on Drugs. If you believe the legal status of a substance effects its demand you are dead wrong. In fact since Nixon first used the term The War on Drugs in 1969, demand and supply have both increased drastically. The thought of a drug free society is absolutely ludicrous. There has never been a drug free society nor will there ever be one. You are asinine to think otherwise. You see it is not me who has blood on my hands. It is you. Please do some research next time you decide to make such an insane, invalid, and incendiary comment. Legalize all of it, but refuse all medical, disability, and unemployment bnefits to users. Let them choose and accept the consequences. What do you think?
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jonesy
Hinton, WV
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Harborgal
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
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Retired and Loving It wrote: <quoted text> Harborgal you are wrong in so many ways I dont know where to start. First of all, the list I presented wasnt intended to be a list of celebrity marijuana users. I tried to focus on political figures and people of social influence. The only "real" celebrities I mentioned were The Beatles & Johhny Cash. Bob Marley died from melanoma. I guess not everyone knows (YOU) how he died
"How do you know if someone hasn't died from a pot overdose? Have you taken a world survey?" Well if you would research marijuana (which you clearly have not) instead of buying into propaganda and lies that has been shoved down the throat of the American public you would know this...try to stay with me here, this might get a little confusing for you because of your obvious lacking of a formal education: In toxicology there is a median lethal dose, also known as the LD50, which is the dose required to kill 50% of the members tested. The LD50 of a substance is given in milligrams per kilogram of body weight. For example, Aspirin has an LD50 level of 200mg/kg. Table salt has an LD50 3,000mg/kg. I hope you are with me so far...but I doubt it. All right here is the answer to your question. "How do you know if someone hasn't died from a pot overdose?". The LD50 level of THC is 1,270mg/kg. If you do the math you will see its impossible to overdose on marijuana. Since you probably wont (more likely incapable) do the math I will go ahead and do it for you. I will use myself as the subject. I weigh 220 pounds or roughly 100kg's. That means I would have to ingest 127,000mg's (127 grams, 1/5 of a pound) of THC to reach the LD50. Lets say the average marijuana contains 10% THC, even though realistically it is more like 4%-8%. With that information 10 grams of marijuana contains 1 gram of THC. That means I would have to ingest 1270 grams or almost 3 pounds of marijuana to achieve the LD50 level. To give you a sense of how much marijuana that is (since you probably have no idea) Ill use this as an example. Marijuana typically cost on average $4,000-$5,000 a pound. That means I would have to smoke $12,000-$15,000 worth of marijuana. No one can smoke that much marijuana. It is impossible. The subject would more likely die from smoke inhalation than a THC overdose. Not to mention, all this marijuana would have to be ingested within a period of about 15 minutes. What does that mean? It means no one has died from a marijuana overdose and no one will. My advice to you would be to refrain from further postings as you have clearly demonstrated your lack of basic knowledge involving Marijuana. Simply put, your making yourself look like an ****. Who the hell are you to tell anyone to "refrain from further postings"? The last time I heard, this is a public forum shithole.
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Harborgal
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
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westsidejesse wrote: Hey harborgal, read what Mr. Retired and loving it wrote....OWNED!! Well put boss man.... Didn't know there was a "boss" on this thread. Laughable!
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Harborgal got pwnd
Saratoga, CA
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So, Harborgal, now you're resorting to battling exaggerations and colloquial terms insted of accepting the facts? Oops, I misspelled instead, you better jump on that!
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MY HERO
Los Angeles, CA
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Right, sure big guy.....are you not yet tired of hearing, "Make my fries at large" when you are at work! Keep boarding bro, you're going far
OK (HEY HERO) SO LET ME GET THIS RIGHT YOU ASSUME BECAUSE I SNOWBOARD I SERVE FRIES FOR A LIVING? WOW!! KEEP BEING IGNORANT "BRO", YOU'RE GOING FAR!!
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culture shock
Marietta, GA
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Chuckie wrote: <quoted text> Yeah but does he rent or own that house. Big difference. If you know anything about skateboarding or Jereme Rogers you would know that he OWNS. Did you see the list of his sponsors? Homies gettin paid
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A teacher
Anaheim, CA
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My 8th graders came to school telling me about their "interesting" morning. Pretty sad that 13-14 year olds have to see this kind of stuff. Nice role model. Mushrooms? Yeah right. Sounds more like LSD.
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A teacher
Anaheim, CA
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f you wrote: <quoted text> dude rakes in at least a mill. a year sitting on some of the biggest brand names in skateboarding with his name all over product. he could own your house So why does he rent a house with other people?
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GCw
Torrance, CA
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Retired and Loving It wrote: <quoted text> Actually I can and I will. I will start with a little bit of a history lesson. In 1920 under heavy pressure from the temperance movement, the United States enacted the 18th amendment making alcohol illegal. In 1933 it was repealed by the 21st amendment. Can you guess what happened during this 13 year span? An extremely profitable, often violent, black market for alcohol flourished. Powerful gangs corrupted law enforcement agencies, leading to racketeering. High proof liquor surged in popularity because its potency made it more profitable to smuggle. Al Capone came to lead one of the largest crime syndicates the United States has ever seen. Capone was in control of large portions of the Chicago bootlegging and smuggling operations, which provided his gang with an estimated $100 million per year. Some time during this period the mob wars ensued leaving the citizens of Chicago in danger and in fear. Sorta reminiscent to whats going on now in Mexico. Anyways, lets get to the point. When repeal of Prohibition occurred in 1933, organized crime lost nearly all of its black market alcohol profits. You see, it is not the marijuana user who is to blame for the cartel violence, it is the laws prohibiting marijuana. The largest cash crop in the United States as well as California is marijuana. What that means is most marijuana consumed in the United states is also produced in the United states. All the while it remains illegal. This is great for criminals! They make billions of dollars while we waste billions trying to fight them. Its a very lucrative and destructive cycle. We call it the War on Drugs. If you believe the legal status of a substance effects its demand you are dead wrong. In fact since Nixon first used the term The War on Drugs in 1969, demand and supply have both increased drastically. The thought of a drug free society is absolutely ludicrous. There has never been a drug free society nor will there ever be one. You are asinine to think otherwise. You see it is not me who has blood on my hands. It is you. Please do some research next time you decide to make such an insane, invalid, and incendiary comment. I don't need history lessons or your pompous attitude. I don't patronize the cartels and I don't have blood on my hands. I agree it should be legalized. But until that happens, YOUR patronization of the cartels makes you the guilty one.
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Tioga Joe
Anaheim, CA
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Skateboarder Tony Hawk is "anti-drug". From what I have heard from people who have skated with him, it is not just for show, and he will speak up. Not just "Hey, it's not for me but you can do it."
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man bear pig
Santa Fe Springs, CA
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GCw wrote: <quoted text> I don't need history lessons or your pompous attitude. I don't patronize the cartels and I don't have blood on my hands. I agree it should be legalized. But until that happens, YOUR patronization of the cartels makes you the guilty one. Perhaps he grows his own? The hydroponics store is doing well.That's the only certain way to be sure one is not supporting crime and violence.
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Professor
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA
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Harborgal wrote: <quoted text> Who the hell are you to tell anyone to "refrain from further postings"? The last time I heard, this is a public forum ****. Good Point gal.
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pril
Klamath Falls, OR
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GCw wrote: <quoted text>Potheads have blood on their hands for patronizing the cartels and fueling their violence. You cannot deny that. Those of us who know our growers and buy locally, nah... no blood on our hands. I know where mine is grown and I know who grows it, and the money ain't going back to Mexico...
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myles
Winnipeg, Canada
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man, jereme is such a douche. why would he get a tatto on his face. he looks like a umbass
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Carson
Los Angeles, CA
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Like oh em gee... these transplants are like making Redondo Beach so uber ghetto and just grody. I can't like even enjoy the gnarly waves any moar... not here or in the bad azz OC... Mexicants be like everywhere. Im not even like talking about kool mexis like in peedro or wilmas. they're just like oh em gee no go back to mexico.
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Joey
Lakeland, FL
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GCw wrote: <quoted text>You and Jereme- attracted to California and ruining it along with all the other immigrants. You need to go back to Boston or whatever else east coast *hithole you're from. You're a naive pothead to think that legalization will end cartels and their violence. They will easily find some other contraband to smuggle or racket to get into and the same turf wars will follow. Criminals will be criminals and potheads will be potheads. Man are you ever a bummer.
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GCw
Torrance, CA
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pril wrote: <quoted text> Those of us who know our growers and buy locally, nah... no blood on our hands. I know where mine is grown and I know who grows it, and the money ain't going back to Mexico... Glad to hear the difference matters to you.
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GCw
Torrance, CA
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Joey wrote: <quoted text> Man are you ever a bummer. You would be too if your hometown over the years deteriorated from nice, safe beachside community to overcrowded, ugly ghetto.
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