Trump for Veep and other US political punditry fails | Oliver Burkeman

May 29, 2012 Full story: The Guardian 72

So Trump will be Romney's running-mate? And Obama does not get capitalism? Allow me to set these 'opinion-formers' straight Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney and Donald Trump shake hands during a news conference at which Trump endorsed Romney, 2 February 2012.

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“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#23 May 29, 2012
harvey wrote:
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So Mittens' tactics were almost exactly the same as your hero Bill Clinton's. I see...that must make you proud, huh, liar?:)


Really? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I suggest you read about Bill Clinton "Loathing the Military" .... Idiot! LMAO!






Bill Clinton's letter to Col. Eugene Holmes,


Director of the ROTC program at the University of Arkansas

3 December 1969.


Dear Col. Holmes,

I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have had to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and ought to say.

First, I want to thank you, not just for saving me from the draft, but for being so kind and decent to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been. One thing which made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable to me was my high regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC. Let me try to explain.

The draft was justified in World War II because the life of the people collectively was at stake. Individuals had to fight, if the nation was to survive, for the lives of their countrymen and their way of life. Vietnam is no such case. Nor was Korea an example where, in my opinion, certain military action was justified but the draft was not, for the reasons stated above. Because of my opposition to the draft and the war, I am in great sympathy with those who are not willing to fight, kill, and maybe die for their country (i.e. the particular policy of a particular government) right or wrong.

Two of my friends at Oxford are conscientious objectors. I wrote a letter of recommendation for one of them to his Mississippi draft board, a letter which I am more proud of than anything else I wrote at Oxford last year. One of my roommates is a draft resister who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again. He is one of the bravest, best men I know. His country needs men like him more than they know. That he is considered a criminal is an obscenity.

After I signed the ROTC letter of intent I began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program in itself and all I seemed to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. Also, I began to think I had deceived you, not by lies -- there were none -- but by failing to tell you all the things I'm writing now. I doubt that I had the mental coherence to articulate them then. At that time, after we had made our agreement and you had sent my 1-D deferment to my draft board, the anguish and loss of my self regard and self confidence really set in. I hardly slept for weeks and kept going by eating compulsively and reading until exhaustion brought sleep.

I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes, of the best service you could give. To many of us, it is no longer clear what is service and what is disservice, or if it is clear, the conclusion is likely to be illegal.

Forgive the length of this letter. There was much to say. There is still a lot to be said, but it can wait. Please say hello to Col. Jones for me. Merry Christmas.

Sincerely,
Bill Clinton


http://web.archive.org/web/20001020132600/htt...
dirk lavar

Muscotah, KS

#24 May 29, 2012
harvey wrote:
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Where's the outrage that you're helping spread lies printed by the Moonie Times, the propaganda outlet of a cultist from a foreign country?
Is there ANYTHING American you wouldn't sell out, traitor?
is harvey a six foot white rabbit?

“Truth to Power!”

Since: Apr 07

Wake Forest, NC

#26 May 29, 2012
dirk lavar wrote:
<quoted text>is harvey a six foot white rabbit?



Harvey's a 5' unemployed jackasscrat.

“Repeated lies are not truth”

Since: Jul 11

8120'

#28 May 29, 2012
The Don will do for Mittens just what the Quitta from Wasila did for 'ol Walnuts.
Cost him the election.

Since: Nov 09

Location hidden

#29 May 29, 2012
harvey wrote:
OMG, PLEASE run Trump for Veep! Please, please, PLEASE do that, Mittens!
LOL
What a present that'd be for Obama...:)
Look what they picked last time,they just might try it. The Polygamist Leader wants funds
Gary

Bellingham, WA

#30 May 29, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Blo Biden has the SAME # of Vietnam Deferrals as Blo Biden!
Joe Biden Draft Dodger AKA Govt Slum Lord
Man, what a slimy pos, why do his body guards need to pay HIM rent? Maybe there is someplace cheaper perhaps?
Since April, Mr. Biden has collected more than $13,000 from the agency charged with protecting him and his family for use of a rental cottage adjacent to the waterfront home he owns in a Wilmington, Del., suburb.
Mr. Biden, listed not as vice president in federal purchasing documents but as a “vendor,” is eligible for up to $66,000 by the time the government contract expires in the fall of 2013, the records show.
Where is the outrage that Bumbling Biden has FIVE draft deferments....the same as Chickenhawk Chaney had?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ottage...
"Chaney"? You mean Lon Chaney? Hehe..

Speaking of chickenhawks and deferments:

Mitt Romney got a “ministerial deferment” that lasted for 30 MONTHS and upon leaving the mission field and then reverted to a student deferment. Just in time for the war in Vietnam to end?

Romney: the perfect example of the chickenhawk turned warmonger.

Reminds one of a former Republican president, doesn't it?

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!! Guffaw, guffaw, guffaw.....

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#31 May 29, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
"Obama's an Incompetent Amateur."
- Bill Clinton
But you're a professional ignorant moron.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#32 May 29, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
<quoted text>
Blo Biden has the SAME # of Vietnam Deferrals as Blo Biden!
Joe Biden Draft Dodger AKA Govt Slum Lord
Man, what a slimy pos, why do his body guards need to pay HIM rent? Maybe there is someplace cheaper perhaps?
Since April, Mr. Biden has collected more than $13,000 from the agency charged with protecting him and his family for use of a rental cottage adjacent to the waterfront home he owns in a Wilmington, Del., suburb.
Mr. Biden, listed not as vice president in federal purchasing documents but as a “vendor,” is eligible for up to $66,000 by the time the government contract expires in the fall of 2013, the records show.
Where is the outrage that Bumbling Biden has FIVE draft deferments....the same as Chickenhawk Chaney had?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ottage...
www.washingtontimes.com/news/. ..Nice source from the Korean cult newspaper. Moonie nutcase.

Since: Feb 08

Hypoluxo Fl

#34 May 29, 2012
The laughing liberal wrote:
Who's smarter?
A Rock or Blo Biden?
Hint:......A Rock!
They are both smarter than you.
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#35 May 29, 2012
It would be such an entertaining debate season if the bats$&t crazy loon Trump was the VP nominee. Mittens is undoubtedly cringing in his LV penthouse right now, hoping the Donald will STFU and go away.
But then again, Mittens said he needs all the votes he can get, including the amazingly stupid birthers.
conservative crapola

Allentown, PA

#36 May 29, 2012
LARRY MOE and OBAMA wrote:
Trump will shake up the ticket in a positive way
You cons are easy pickens. Trump guarantees another positively landslide loss for the cons. But it'll be positive. I'm positive.
LMT

Twinsburg, OH

#37 May 29, 2012
The world according to Trump:
In 1961, a vast conspiracy began. Anti-American agents with prescience powers, knowing that Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was going to give birth to the future President, removed the pregnant mother of Barack Obama from her home in Hawaii and flew her to Kenya, where BO was born. THEN they bribed their contacts in all the Hawaiian newspapers to put in fake birth notices AND they created a fake birth certificate that was magically inserted into the records vault in Honolulu. Ann Dunham was then returned with her son to Hawaii. Birth and childhood photos were also faked.
JRS

Chattanooga, TN

#38 May 29, 2012
Trump is too arrogant to be president of anything let alone the USA

He goes on CNN, refused to answer questions to wolf blitzer and then when he is losing an argument he goes off on ratings of CNN as if that has anything to do with anything. CNN ratings are based on news ratings not entertainment ratings like FAUX. Entertainment is always higher rated than news. CNN has over one billion watchers worldwide because it's an International News Station while Faux has some ten million viewers mostly in the States aka6m in the States and is rated tops in entertainment ratings because it is nothing more than talking heads throwing out anger and bait.

Trump is a total idiot imo and born into money unlike Martha Stewart. I had my own dealings with Trump LAST YEAR and he lost. He is a loser imo He was going to sue me! Sue me over something he was wrong about. He is a loser in that case and it is my opinion he is a loser as a human.

I hope Trump leaves the Walmart family alone because he will lose up against them. They are self made and many live here at Lookout Mountain/Chattanooga area. He doesn't want to anger them imo.
JRS

Chattanooga, TN

#39 May 29, 2012
Truth about next two elections. Obama will win this one because of many factors. The big one is the Electorate of the Electoral College will not deny the first African American a second term and the Electoral College controls elections not voters.

The other reasons Obama will win is the economy is in recovery, bin landin is gone, we have not been attacked while he has been president, the war in Iraq is over as promised and he was the first president to get health care passed by two houses of Congress which starts in 2014 and the USSC cannot do a think about that fact. They do not have legal powers to overrule what has been done least the President fires all of them.

In 2016, Republicans will put a woman on the ticket named Condi Rice and she will win in a landslide two terms.

That is how it is going to be so deal with it left, right, center, up or down.
Billy Ringo

Forest Hills, NY

#40 May 29, 2012
Chump for VP? Sounds like a plan.

Just hope all those special investigators he sent to Hawaii last year return in time to vote. I am sure their families are missing them by now.

Willard/Chump - 2012 <------ extremely mavericky !!

“Shoot for the stars”

Since: Dec 10

Planet Earth

#41 May 29, 2012
Trump's a rabid pit bull who doesn't understand the word "loyalty", unless there's money involved or younger wife for arm candy. He shows real family values too by getting rid of every wife that shows the first signs of aging. Oh, the VP's wife should be American born too.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#42 May 29, 2012
harvey wrote:
OMG, PLEASE run Trump for Veep! Please, please, PLEASE do that, Mittens!
LOL
What a present that'd be for Obama...:)
With friends like Trump, who needs suicide?
OBAMA 2012

Covina, CA

#43 May 29, 2012
harvey wrote:
OMG, PLEASE run Trump for Veep! Please, please, PLEASE do that, Mittens!
LOL
What a present that'd be for Obama...:)
I second that Motion!

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#44 May 29, 2012
harvey wrote:
<quoted text>
Why does "draft dodging" mean something to you when applied to Biden, hypocrite, when you ignore the fact that Mittens, Cheney, and many other Righties avoided it, too?
LOL
You'll see how "dumb" Obama is when he smacks your boy Mittens down in their first debate and makes him cry like a little girl. LOL!
Not to mention that Biden has a son in Iraq.

“Happiness comes through giving”

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#45 May 29, 2012
harvey wrote:
<quoted text>
'The Lying Loon is an idiotic Rightie troll and asshat.'
--Bill Clinton
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