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Kermudgeon

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Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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Is it true that Ryan The Lyin' got SS Benefits throughout his life because his Father died?
It's true. The same checks he would deny his fellow citizens. What a two faced, lying, hypocritical piece of feces.

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Hard time as a teen. At 16 years old, Ryan, who shares a name with his father, found his father’s body after his dad Paul died.

Yes he Already collected Social Security. After Ryan’s father passed away, he saved Social Security survivor’s benefits to pay for attending Miami University, where Ryan double majored in economics and political science in 1992.

OMG!!!! The leftists will go nuts

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Neither Romney, nor Ryan want to eliminate S S. If something isn't done to put it back on financial footing it will go bankrupt. Older people are not stupid. They know something has to be done. In Obamacare Obama, and the Democrats are eliminating $500,000,000,000. billion dollars from Medicare to have money for their poor. Kill the old people, and give to the poor. It is called Obamahood. Hopefully Romney can help create tax paying jobs, so we can recoup some of the money we lost under Obama.
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mjjcpa wrote:
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Anyone would be better than the 0rganizer, as long as they are not liberal surrendercrats.
The first 6 years of Bush were awesome. The last two went bad when harry pelosi popped the maxine fwank housing bubble with $150 barrel oil.
Obama used to be a community organizer, but guess what? Now he's got 3.5 years of being President of the United States under his belt too. Can't wait to see all you crybabies spend another 4 years bemoaning the fact that we have a Democrat as President! HAHAHAHA

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Cat74 wrote:
Neither Romney, nor Ryan want to eliminate S S. If something isn't done to put it back on financial footing it will go bankrupt. Older people are not stupid. They know something has to be done. In Obamacare Obama, and the Democrats are eliminating $500,000,000,000. billion dollars from Medicare to have money for their poor. Kill the old people, and give to the poor. It is called Obamahood. Hopefully Romney can help create tax paying jobs, so we can recoup some of the money we lost under Obama.
The fix for Social security is to:
* Base it on all income, no upper 'cut off.'
* Include all income, not just (ordinary) wage and salary. That is, include all investment and capital income. SS will last into the next two centuries.
see the light

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AnimalLover5 wrote:
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Obama used to be a community organizer, but guess what? Now he's got 3.5 years of being President of the United States under his belt too. Can't wait to see all you crybabies spend another 4 years bemoaning the fact that we have a Democrat as President! HAHAHAHA
He was a President in name only. He did nothing but destroy America. If he gets away with all the acts of fraud again, its your fault.

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see the light wrote:
<quoted text>He was a President in name only. He did nothing but destroy America. If he gets away with all the acts of fraud again, its your fault.
http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Mr_Bill wrote:
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The fix for Social security is to:
* Base it on all income, no upper 'cut off.'
* Include all income, not just (ordinary) wage and salary. That is, include all investment and capital income. SS will last into the next two centuries.
Bush tried to fix SS, but the lamesteam media carried harry pelosi's water and torpedoed it.

Bush wanted to raise the ceiling on earned income, but not investment income as you suggest.

He also wanted to raise the age it kicks in, and do means testing for really high income earners.

To offset this large tax increase on the rich, he suggested all participants be allowed to put a small part (10-20%) in a self directed IRA type account that could be invested at a return higher than 1% which is what it earns now (with more risk) on a voluntary basis.

It was a reasonable starting point for negotiations, but an intransigent Congress would rather have the problem to demagogue than solve.

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Aug 23, 2012
 
Lawrence Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>Romney is better at throwing a tantrum.
If you got a bidness(lol) You dint(lol) built dat(LOL) What a president. LOL He really is the amateur..

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mjjcpa wrote:
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Bush tried to fix SS, but the lamesteam media carried harry pelosi's water and torpedoed it.
Bush wanted to raise the ceiling on earned income, but not investment income as you suggest.
He also wanted to raise the age it kicks in, and do means testing for really high income earners.
To offset this large tax increase on the rich, he suggested all participants be allowed to put a small part (10-20%) in a self directed IRA type account that could be invested at a return higher than 1% which is what it earns now (with more risk) on a voluntary basis.
It was a reasonable starting point for negotiations, but an intransigent Congress would rather have the problem to demagogue than solve.
Bush's attempt to destroy Social Security was no attempt to save it.

For example:
"...all participants be allowed to put a small part (10-20%) in a self directed IRA type account ..."
All participants can already put as much as they wish into an IRA. This Bush plan would have only defunded SS. This program is not a savings account, it pays out as is collects in.

Bush knew that, so this truly was a deliberate attempt to end SS. And, when Bush's failure to regulate financial markets crashed the stock market, it would have been a true disaster for all who count on SS fiunded by the .

Means testing was another structural attack on SS. It was the camel's nose iiiiiinto the tent. It is better to pay more, and still collect your check no matter how much you have.

Raising the ceiling, either on earned income, or on all income is the solution. Equalization, equal treatment of all income is most equitable; but not likely this decade. It is an eventual long term solution; before cutting benefits, or releasing the Stock market sharks into Social Security funding.
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see the light wrote:
<quoted text>He was a President in name only. He did nothing but destroy America. If he gets away with all the acts of fraud again, its your fault.
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Mr_Bill wrote:
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Bush's attempt to destroy Social Security was no attempt to save it.
For example:
"...all participants be allowed to put a small part (10-20%) in a self directed IRA type account ..."
All participants can already put as much as they wish into an IRA. This Bush plan would have only defunded SS. This program is not a savings account, it pays out as is collects in.
Bush knew that, so this truly was a deliberate attempt to end SS. And, when Bush's failure to regulate financial markets crashed the stock market, it would have been a true disaster for all who count on SS fiunded by the .
Means testing was another structural attack on SS. It was the camel's nose iiiiiinto the tent. It is better to pay more, and still collect your check no matter how much you have.
Raising the ceiling, either on earned income, or on all income is the solution. Equalization, equal treatment of all income is most equitable; but not likely this decade. It is an eventual long term solution; before cutting benefits, or releasing the Stock market sharks into Social Security funding.
You really are dumb. Will you please learn to read.

Bush was going to dramatically increase the SS burden on the rich who already pay all the taxes. The small privatization part was an attempt to assuage some of the pain by allowing them a higher return, or the ability to use it for medical expenses or leave to heirs.

... so surrendercrats did nothing but complain, as usual.

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