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the_truth_be_tol d2006
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Good Grief wrote: This is in no means an invitation to start a quarrel with you, but what about the white people who live in trailers married to their cousins, missing 5 teeth? There are ALOT of them, just as many of them as blacks, and your tax dollars are paying to take care of their trailers and buy their booze and cigarettes. How do you feel about them? honestly. <quoted text> I have no sympathy for them either. Nor will I ever rush to their defense. But they don't blame anyone for their situation. They also don't constantly demand more money either. They don't try to revise history. They don't commit a inordinate amount of crime for their population. They don't comprise 44% of the prison population. Every level of negativity is disproportionate in the Black Community, yet none attempt any resolution, escept the continuance of hatrde against Whites, more handouts and more pity.
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Good Grief
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I'm not so sure they dont blame anyone for their grief, they just have no forum to be heard. They also dont have any substantial history to revise and seem to be quite content in their trailers. There are no "professional, educated red-necks" so they dont have discrimination to scream. It's totally different in my opinion. Yes, I did ask, but the answers you gave dont quite make sense to me, or stand up to a true comparison to black history. Hmm, I mean no offense or disrespect to any group of people, just used them as an example of non-productive members of society who are on welfare burdening the tax payers. the_truth_be_told2006 wrote: <quoted text> I have no sympathy for them either. Nor will I ever rush to their defense. But they don't blame anyone for their situation. They also don't constantly demand more money either. They don't try to revise history. They don't commit a inordinate amount of crime for their population. They don't comprise 44% of the prison population. Every level of negativity is disproportionate in the Black Community, yet none attempt any resolution, escept the continuance of hatrde against Whites, more handouts and more pity.
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leem
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WOW i live here wrote: <quoted text> With what mentality? How do you know what MY mentality is?! Just based on that one comment? I have never blamed anyone for what is going on in our community. See that’s the problem, you in the white community keep saying we are "blaming" people for the things wrong in our community but truth be told slavery is the reason we are in the situation we are in and that is a FACT like it or not. I also hear a lot of you saying we are "trying" to make you all feel guilty, well sorry but you should feel a little guilt. Maybe if you would stop being so cold and just simply acknowledge that your ancestors were wrong, we could start working toward change. But as long as you keep pointing the finger and keep saying we are complaining we will never get anywhere in this country. Your race needs to change their attitudes. Your attitudes suck when it comes to racial relations, and it’s been this way for decades. Did you hear what that guy said on the program about attending Central High at the time Martin Luther King was shot? He said ALL of the white kids were hanging out the window laughing at them. You guys still have that attitude and that’s not ok. Maybe they should do a special on white people. Why are they so damn paranoid? Why do they have hatred towards blacks in 2008? Why can’t they take responsibility for their mistakes? As for me being proud of my blackness, I wear it everyday and I love it! I love being black! IM BLACK AND VERY PROUD :) Honey, about 1/3 of the people I work with are black (college educated too) and not one of them talks about being here because of slavery. You are free to live anywhere on the planet you like. I certainly would not let something that happened 200+ years ago effect my life in any way. But you carry that crutch if you choose. I have never thought negatively about blacks in general, I ONLY judge people by their actions. However, some of the posts here have changed my mind a little. I have never heard such a boo hoo, poor me, pity party in my whole life. It's ironic because there are 15 million Mexicans who would love to have what you have here in the good old USA. Think about it...
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“Too much”
Joined: Jun 14, 2008
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tigress aka Tiger wrote: <quoted text> Your ungrateful black ass. You have made sooo many negative comments towards black women and never even APOLOGIZED for them. YET you have the nerve to want an apology for THIS!?! I am sorry if i offended you, i had some left over bitterness from my experiences with american black women that came out when i was argueing with some of these black women on topix.
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leem
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the_truth_be_told2006 wrote: <quoted text> Yet, you, like so many others can't repute even one of the facts. Your whole basis of "survival" extends to the continued welfare and good nature of the White, but as I've illustrated, you lost that already. Governemental handouts are falling as we speak. But don't listen, I don't offer this as your mentor or your friend, but as the one who Chronicles your Demise. As Soledad O'Brien so exquisitedly repeated over and over last night on her special about Black Men, the expectations of Black males in America is and always has been extremely low, and failure is readily accepted. Your failure is your expectation. I totally agree with you. Being black is not the problem, being pathetic is. To all the people who continue to say "I'm proud to be black." Instead of just being proud, why don't you ACT proud?
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Raven wrote: These reports are necessary because other races do not understand what blacks go through on a daily basis. If you find yourself to be more of a minority than blacks then can you imaging what a gay, black man goes through? You can only speak for HR in your area, not all. There is no trend towards black applicants. If HR is hiring unqualified blacks then that is their problem and they need to refine their hiring process. You talk as if you know what is on the mind of black applicants. You CANNOT possibly know! There are many blacks that have college degrees, speak well and represent themselves well. Do not lump all of us together. It is more likely that a black person will be profiled as stealing than the whites who actually are stealing. I have been followed through stores by security when in fact there was a white person near me who was shoplifting. No one was following the white person and they got away with a large haul. Trust and believe that blacks and other races have different problems from whites. Everyday I watch tv and see more white faces than any other. So yes, the title "Black in America" is valid. It is about what blacks deal with because whites have got it pretty easy. No one has viewed white heritage celebrations as racist. Whites are celebrated every day, so I am not clear on your thinking. You can be proud if you so desire. No one can take that away from you, just as no one can take away the pride that blacks exhibit. If you have a problem with the series then you should not tune in. My ancestors are kings, queens and warriors and I and every other black person has the right to know and celebrate this fact. CNN and Ms. O'Brien are presenting a much needed feature. Watch it, take it for what it is worth and have a productive conversation with some blacks about it! Bull!!! Blacks are not the only race that go though hell and back! Females no matter their race always have to struggle no matter what to get to the top not just black women. Why not ask white family living in their car becaues they can't get help from the govment and have no white organztion to help them unlike other races most blacks. Whites can't have any organzion mainly for whites without being called racist group and being force to included other race while black groups can denied whites from their groups and refuse to help whites.
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Donivan wrote: <quoted text> That is some of the point. But the other point is to justify one's pain and wanton vindiction to be equal makes them just as bad and in some cases worse than those that did the same action. When does it become alright to downtrodden others for the gain self- worth? When does it become alright to downtrodden someone's self-worth and image for the benefit of others? In both cases never. Double standards exist on both side of the color barrier and when we as people call our own as well as others of different races on the concept, we will never consider the thought of equallity as possible. Case in point, a couple of White college students became a minority on campus at a college. These students wanted to start an an all white club. However, they were told no way and thus ended the suggestion. They would probably would have accepted indivudals later from other ethnicites, but for the time being to only deal with their own. But I found a surprising statistic at Howard University, a predominately black college,whose mission statement is to focus and place an emphasis on diversity, that has 2% of Caucasian (this consists of Asian and White people) 1% for each respectively, for the enrollment population for years 2004-2007. Pretty strange as to say that only 70 students applied that were of Caucasian based and ALL 70 were accepted. That seems a little far fetched. Overall, when people of their own ethnicity react or commits act of bigotry we accept it as being "fair" and when someone else plays the same type of game, they are considered racist. Two wrongs never make it right, but unfortunately the number of people that actually practice this methodology outnumber those far greater that don't. Why? Because the "brainwashed" mentallity that all Americans have been exposed to. Some will think I'm crazy, but there is a saying if its conceivable, IT IS POSSIBLE. What better way than to divide not just AA but all ethnicites from each other. The following is a list of some not all: Blacks hate white Whites hate blacks Blacks hate blacks for hating whites Whites hate whites for hating blacks Blacks hate blacks for liking whites whites hate whites for hating blacks blacks hate hispanics who hate blacks hispanics hate blacks who hate hispanics whites hate hispanics who hate whites and blacks blacks hate hispanics who hate whites and blacks See where this is going...Hate perpetuates hate. Nobody wins..Everyone loses. Why because when we are faced with the ugliness of this problem we choose however to turn away and join with those that we feel most comfortable with. Connecting through pain, emotions, heartache, pride, envy, sloth. Racism encompasses all of the sins of mortal men. Some radicals will call this BS, but why do they argue this fact so blatantly. Because they know it is the truth and the truth hurts. So we choose not to face the truth, to face our fears and to face the person who we think is our enemy. We hide behind these facades to reassure ourselves as Americans that we are not to blame for any wrongdoing, hence we place the blame on others, to justify feelings of guilt and/or hatred. Some may not agree with this and that will definately prove the theory of what I stated above. THINK ABOUT IT. your a piece of lying white trash....i've neva known a craka to hate another fellow pale face for hating blacks cuz all whites hate blacks or atleast racims just some more than others few blacks hate blacks for hating whites cause most of us either hate u are strongly disklike u..thoses that do like whites are sellouts uncle toms and oreos
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Up North wrote: <quoted text> Why does everyone assume they go through the same things that blacks do. As former slaves blacks have a far worse history in this and other countries over centuries of oppression. More than Indians, Native American, Japanese and Mexicans ... combined. The worse part is it still goes on today. How can anyone study the history of blacks in the 'new world' and compare it to ANYTHING. Untold generations lost,(they didn't take the old and sick as slaves) Millions of rapes and murders ... millions! Corruption of blood lines by slave owner rapes of mothers AND daughters. Families split up on arrival in the new world. And you think we ask for this? We like being victims? Well, would you trade places with us? Since we have it so easy and all we have to do is,'get a job, go to college', if you could, would you wake up a black man tomorrow? Everybody DOES NOT have the same problems as black america. What you mean to say is that blacks have the same problems as other races ... compouded by being black in America. How long does the "Former Slaves" excuse have to go on. Will blacks still be using this excuse 100 years from now? 200 years? 300 Years? Get over it. Most blacks today couldn't find a slave in their family history, but still use the same crutch! Interview a 25 year old with no job, no education, no prospects and the best he can come up with his problems are a result of slavery 200 years ago. The whole series is a joke by the professional victims!
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“Supporting "That One"”
Joined: Jul 19, 2008
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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c diddy wrote: <quoted text> your a piece of lying white trash....i've neva known a craka to hate another fellow pale face for hating blacks cuz all whites hate blacks or atleast racims just some more than others few blacks hate blacks for hating whites cause most of us either hate u are strongly disklike u..thoses that do like whites are sellouts uncle toms and oreos Lord have mercy, this sounds just like the crap I heard in high school...*shudder*
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“Supporting "That One"”
Joined: Jul 19, 2008
Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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SWHosley wrote: <quoted text> How long does the "Former Slaves" excuse have to go on. Will blacks still be using this excuse 100 years from now? 200 years? 300 Years? Get over it. Most blacks today couldn't find a slave in their family history, but still use the same crutch! Interview a 25 year old with no job, no education, no prospects and the best he can come up with his problems are a result of slavery 200 years ago. The whole series is a joke by the professional victims! How much Black family history have you done? I sure found slavery in mine, and I didn't have to go back too far to find it, either. Don't lump a very large and diverse community of people together and slap a label on them, I know plenty of White "professional victims", believe me. The legacy of slavery is very much with Black America, in many different ways. It's not a crutch, it's a fact. Has it impeded me and those I know from getting where we need to go? No. The 25 year-old with no job and no prospects (and I know plenty of White ones, too) makes the evening news while the six 20 year-old college graduates don't.
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“THE PICTURE YOU LOVE MOST”
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
DON'T DENY YOUR DESTINY
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c diddy wrote: <quoted text> your a piece of lying white trash....i've neva known a craka to hate another fellow pale face for hating blacks cuz all whites hate blacks or atleast racims just some more than others few blacks hate blacks for hating whites cause most of us either hate u are strongly disklike u..thoses that do like whites are sellouts uncle toms and oreos And why are they uncle toms. Do you know the real answer. Probably not because you associate the name attachment with hate. Hence hate will always blind those to the truth. You have not met WP that hate other whites? Go check out the White racists BS threads. In fact research, the Mississippi killing of two white men and a black man while travelling together to get AA registered to vote in 1964. Find out that WP held anti-slavery fairs to help keep the Underground Railroad funded and to help freed slaves read as far back as the early 1800's. One sided dogmatic views of radicals and racists never want the full truths of WP or BP exposed. Why? Because if everyone knew the truth then they would not have much of an organization. Much like the media they are there to through truth in the middle of lies and deceit and to twist them until the truth is completely smothered by the lies, but you can not recognize. Hence the gift of the silver tongue. Ask yourself why are all these radical leaders on both sides have degrees in journalism and English majors. Once you control the mind, you control the person. Hate never is justified as ALL religions describe that. Hate, anger, pain and sorrow mask you from the real truth. You have more than crackas trying to get your soul. Just because the enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. Let that marinate for awhile.
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“the king of his environment”
Joined: Oct 28, 2007
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Good Grief wrote: I'm not so sure they dont blame anyone for their grief, they just have no forum to be heard. They also dont have any substantial history to revise and seem to be quite content in their trailers. There are no "professional, educated red-necks" so they dont have discrimination to scream. It's totally different in my opinion. Yes, I did ask, but the answers you gave dont quite make sense to me, or stand up to a true comparison to black history. Hmm, I mean no offense or disrespect to any group of people, just used them as an example of non-productive members of society who are on welfare burdening the tax payers. <quoted text> And he can't explain how blacks in ghettos continue to overcome all odds and lift themselves out of poverty time and time again, while poor whites stay mired in their trailer parks.
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leem
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JohnnyQ wrote: <quoted text> And maybe, leem, he's correct and you DON'T have any idea. I think you're both right. I think the White mainstream is oblivious to certain issues that tangibly affect Black people.(Either oblivious, or adamant that Black people should just "live with it and shut up"). On the other hand, Blackness can absolutely be an asset - and there are many positive things about being Black and understanding what that means for you in 2008 as well as historically. I posted this elsewhere, but I'll say it again. About a third of the people I work with are black and college educated too. They don't use their blackness as a crutch or an excuse. They don't blame slavery for their plight. They are professionals -- they act that way and are treated as such. Anybody who is undereducated will have a hard time in America. Anybody who drops out of school at 15 will suffer. Blacks are not alone in that arena. It's not rocket science dudes, just stay in school. What I see is an excuse to have a big old pity party and blame, blame, blame. If they are proud to be black, they need to ACT proud.
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I didn really watch it but i read the titles. why did they give a whole show exclusively to the black man but not the black woman? the one about black men was titled the 'black man' and the one about black woman was 'the black family and black woman'
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SAm
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I'm grateful that CNN took the time to reveal how African Americans are perceived in America. I'm not just grateful that white America was able to get a first hand look, but that black youth can see how others see them.
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Mike
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Donivan wrote: <quoted text> And why are they uncle toms. Do you know the real answer. Probably not because you associate the name attachment with hate. Hence hate will always blind those to the truth. You have not met WP that hate other whites? Go check out the White racists BS threads. In fact research, the Mississippi killing of two white men and a black man while travelling together to get AA registered to vote in 1964. Find out that WP held anti-slavery fairs to help keep the Underground Railroad funded and to help freed slaves read as far back as the early 1800's. One sided dogmatic views of radicals and racists never want the full truths of WP or BP exposed. Why? Because if everyone knew the truth then they would not have much of an organization. Much like the media they are there to through truth in the middle of lies and deceit and to twist them until the truth is completely smothered by the lies, but you can not recognize. Hence the gift of the silver tongue. Ask yourself why are all these radical leaders on both sides have degrees in journalism and English majors. Once you control the mind, you control the person. Hate never is justified as ALL religions describe that. Hate, anger, pain and sorrow mask you from the real truth. You have more than crackas trying to get your soul. Just because the enemy of your enemy is not always your friend. Let that marinate for awhile. Very eloquent my friend, but do not expect every one to have that kind of knowledge or commences of researching the issue before arguing there dogmatic point of views. That is the reason why they live in there own dystopia among us.
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the_truth_be_tol d2006
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Tsalagi wrote: <quoted text> And he can't explain how blacks in ghettos continue to overcome all odds and lift themselves out of poverty time and time again, while poor whites stay mired in their trailer parks. Oh, enough with the "We Shall Overcome" garbage. Think up something new! The only thing you have to "Overcome" is your own stupidity. Nobody cares. Soon you won't have a pyramid of welfare programs to "lift you up". Then what? Nothing. You are the most consistently pathetic person on here. Your mother must be so proud. Your father too, if we only knew who he was.
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Mike
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Tsalagi wrote: <quoted text> And he can't explain how blacks in ghettos continue to overcome all odds and lift themselves out of poverty time and time again, while poor whites stay mired in their trailer parks. I think that I can shin some light on that subject. This is my dogmatic answer to that question and it should be take for what it is. Those individuals in the trailer park do not have a inferiority complex there for do not blame any one for there misfortunes of bad choices. They are quit content with a beer and NASCAR’s.
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Phyllis Montana-Leblanc
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Re: "Soledad O'brien's "Black In America." When I first heard about the special featuring my race of people I thought it would be something different than what seems to be the same story of jail, death, drugs and poverty. The story made me feel sad and disheartened for my people and all people who experience these situations in their lives. Mostly for my people. I would like to suggest another episode of "Black America" and this time place the focus on the total opposite of what was shown this time. Soledad did an excellent job and I applaud her, but I would like to see a more insightful look into blacks who are doing better, or whose lives have changed for the better. How about that Soledad? Good Job. I look forward to seeing more on the issues of "Blacks In America." P.S. Please call me when you have a free minute. I have a book being published on August 19,2008. "NOT JUST THE LEVEES BROKE" FOREWORD BY SPIKE LEE.
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“THE PICTURE YOU LOVE MOST”
Joined: Jan 12, 2008
DON'T DENY YOUR DESTINY
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Mike wrote: <quoted text> I think that I can shin some light on that subject. This is my dogmatic answer to that question and it should be take for what it is. Those individuals in the trailer park do not have a inferiority complex there for do not blame any one for there misfortunes of bad choices. They are quit content with a beer and NASCAR’s. O.K. Humor break. This is not meaning to poke fun of the topic at hand, but this ventroliquist is funny. His character makes a funny NASCAR reference. http://uk.youtube.com/watch...
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