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You can teach your own kids any garbage you wish; you cannot push your prejudice in the public schools.

Yes, having sex is a choice, but being gay is not. Whether you approve or not doesn't interest me.

You don't speak for society--we are PART of that society. And a lot more straight people tolerate gays than you want to believe.

I'm not a crybaby. I, along with millions of other gays, are no longer putting up with your crap.

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How tolerant are you of those who believe homosexual behavior is immoral, deviant and perverted? People like you who scream about tolerance are always the most intolerant of all.
Look, enganging in homosexual behavior is a conscious choice that you've chosen. Along with your choice comes the disdain of society. If you don't like it, make better choices.
Stop being a crybaby.

Child, your inch will never be a mile. Or even noticeable.

The constitution decides what behaviors can be made illegal, and consensual sex between adults is perfectly fine; read lawrence v texas among other cases. It is also unconstitutional to create laws that target specific sectors of the population.

Bringmedinner wrote:

Give deviants an inch and they'll take a mile. American society has every right to make certain human behaviors illegal. Since homosexuals have distorted and disadvantaged any and all compassions and latitude they've been given, their behavior should be made illegal once again. Otherwise, they will continue to destroy society at every level. It is the nature of destroyers to continue destroying.

Pamela wrote:

Why do people say that it is so horrible that gay men have anal sex yet nowadays all straight men talk about is they want to have anal sex? Are they actually gay? Is our society going the way of Rome when it was collapsing that anything goes, all people think about is eating too much and having sex cause they are lazy? What's really going on?
How come over 50 percent of straights get divorced if straight marriage is the way to live? How come over 50 percent of kids today are being born to single mothers? Doesn't that tell you people no longer do the nuclear family? How about the reality that there are way too many people now so of course humanity would need to stop procreating and it would need to focus on cleaning up the environment we have destroyed by there being way too many of us. How about rather than risking having children with autism because of all the pollution from overpopulation why don't people adopt the kids in foster care that are already here and need families if people love children so much and have such great morals and values??
The reality is marriage is over with out of necessity, due to overpopulation. Humans need to move on and stop trying to have nuclear families because there's too many people. Otherwise what will happen is soon the divorce rate will be 75 percent, a total failure, and more and more kids will be autistic. So people will stop getting married out of fear of divorce and out of fear of having children because the odds of their children being unable to function will be too high. See the evolution that is occuring due to overpopulation?
As far as gay people, how many of you have a gay relative? Probably all of you. I have a gay brother, a straight brother, a straight sister and I'm straight. So why is my brother gay? Who knows. My grandparents raised us, they were Republicans and yet they were fine that my brother was gay. So he is gay. No one knows why he was born gay. So people want to act like they are evil or something. I bet most all of you have a gay relative. Do you want them to be harmed? No, no you don't.

Good post !

I agreee with a lot of what you've said here.

Actually, gays went to the camps, too, and many died there. When the camps were liberated, gays were not freed like all other groups; they were sent to prison.

We are still victims of violence here and now, usually by intolerant cretins like yourself.

Gays do the same things straights do in bed, it's just the genders that vary. So if our sex is immoral, so is yours. You have no moral superiority here; you;re just a bigot--no better than the klan.

You can ignore our opinion of you in EXACTLY the same way we will ignore your opinion of us. You think you somehow matter to any of us?

Society can fu** itself. We are going for our LEGAL rights. Trash like you can get on board the train or have it run over you.

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Nope. But homosexuals aren’t being slaughtered by the millions. They aren’t being slaughtered by the thousands, nor the hundreds nor even the tens. Your pitiful attempt at an analogy is an epic fail.
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ROFLMAO! Someone who consistently engages in immoral, deviant behavior is going to give a lecture on another’s moral compass??? You’re joking, right?
Yeah, I’ll ignore your opinion of me as quickly as rejecting advice from a rapist. You’re both guilty of committing sexual immorality.
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I said that engaging in homosexual behavior is a conscious choice. That’s a fact.
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Because I state facts and you don’t like them.
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I’m not stating opinion, I’m stating fact. You want society to accept and condone your immoral, deviant behavior, but that isn’t going to happen. When it doesn’t, it pisses you off. I say, too damn bad, you brought it upon yourself.

david traversa wrote:

Chick-A-Fil is just America's newest ignoramuses' haven; and their food a danger to americans' health.. Patronize at your own risk..

At least they are better than KFC and Church's Chicken cause they love the gays.

http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e86050c415/k...

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I've noticed, and it's damn disturbing: They "like" people like him to the extent that he parrots their beliefs.
Ya know, I'll be personal for a sec in a way I rarely am here: This stuff is saddening me recently. And noticing what you said here -- I noticed it myself, last week -- made me quite sad. Having noticed these things about the antigay long ago, I found it no surprise: They become fakely, provisionally "friendly" so long as one parrots their beliefs *with exactitude*, as evidenced (I see this as related) by the way in which some of the antigay here are going so far as to call the *government itself* full of gays now, etc. In other words, this is a deep-seated hatred that was programmed in an almost cultlike way, and is perpetuated in much the same context. You are either *exactly* with them, or you = the enemy (in their eyes).
They really, really, really ****ing hate gay people, and it's astonishing and has no precedent I have ever seen (not even in racism), except from what I've heard about Nazism. Boy oh boy, it's impossible to see them as entirely sane or sensible.

I totally agree and have been sad and angry myself. I keep saying I won't read it anymore, but I just can't let this ignorance, hate and bigotry continue with out fighting it.

cpeter1313 wrote:

You can teach your own kids any garbage you wish; you cannot push your prejudice in the public schools.

It's not conservatives like me who are trying to push an agenda in the public schools. It's homosexual advocates who seek to teach that perverted homosexual behavior is one of several acceptable lifestyle choices.

Fine with me if we left sex education out of public schools completely.

Yes, having sex is a choice...

Of course it is. And if you choose to engage in deviant, perverted sexual acts, then you have nothing to bitch about when you feel society's disdain.

You don't speak for society--we are PART of that society.

Yep, but you're a very small part. Society as a whole rejects homosexual behavior as deviant and perverted. Ever wonder why gay marriage has been voted down every time and in every place it has ever been put to a vote of the people?

I'm not a crybaby.

You've proven yourself to be exactly that. You choose to engage in homosexual behavior. Along with that choice comes the disdain of society. When you whine and bitch about that disdain, you're being nothing but a crybaby.

If you can't take the heat, stay in the closet.

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We are still victims of violence here and now, usually by intolerant cretins like yourself.

Not any more than any other group, and certainly nothing anywhere near the suffering of the Jews in WW2.

Gays do the same things straights do in bed...

Uh, no they don't. Homosexuals engage in sexual acts with members of their same gender. Heterosexuals don't.

Are you really so stupid you don't know the difference?

So if our sex is immoral, so is yours.

No. I don't engage in deviant, perverted homosexual behavior.

You can ignore our opinion of you in EXACTLY the same way we will ignore your opinion of us. You think you somehow matter to any of us?

Sure, you can ignore me. But what you can't ignore are the facts and reality that I put forth. And that's really what pisses you off.

Society can fu** itself.

Yep, and that's precisely why society rejects you. You don't care about others around you, you're extremely selfish. You expect society to bend over backwards to accommodate you. Guess what, it ain't going to happen.

Maybe it's time you put on your big girl panties and stopped whining like a little bitch. You chose the homosexual lifestyle. You chose society's disdain that comes with it. It's time for you to stop being a crybaby.

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Nope. But homosexuals aren’t being slaughtered by the millions. They aren’t being slaughtered by the thousands, nor the hundreds nor even the tens. Your pitiful attempt at an analogy is an epic fail.

You distort and misapply my analogy, then you claim there was a failure?

In other words, you attempt to speak for me *in order so that you can claim* there was a failure.

You made those analogies.

If my seeing through your lie is a "failure," what in god's name are you? Christ.

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ROFLMAO! Someone who consistently engages in immoral, deviant behavior is going to give a lecture on another’s moral compass??? You’re joking, right?

You have to present yourself as someone whose opinion should be respected.

If my response to you didn't show you that you failed at that, you're under an illusion that you have control here.

But you messed up far, far more royally than that ...

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Yeah, I’ll ignore your opinion of me as quickly as rejecting advice from a rapist. You’re both guilty of committing sexual immorality.

... by magically claiming to know about the life of a complete stranger.

You *have* to have ammunition, so you *manufacture* what you pretend to know about a ...

... complete stranger.

Thus justifying every last thing I said about you.

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I said that engaging in homosexual behavior is a conscious choice. That’s a fact.

For some weird reason, millions of gay people know better than you do. Why is this a problem for you?

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Because I state facts and you don’t like them.

Because you sound like you're trying to convince *yourself*, really.

There's science, speaking respectably and objectively, and then here's you, without ...

... ya know, proof.

The most beautiful thing about pointing out how you're trying to convince yourself is that you *can't* say the same about them without sounding like you have no knowledge of how psychology actually works.

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I’m not stating opinion, I’m stating fact.

Wonder why I'm not buying it.

Oh, yeah, because they're the ones who are gay, so they'd know exponentially better than you do.

That's a "fail" on your part, no? Pretend it isn't, and you absolve me of believing *your* claims have any veracity. Isn't logic beautiful?

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You want society to accept and condone your

Mine personally?

You know *about complete strangers over an anonymous connection*?

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immoral, deviant behavior,

Ever heard the term "try-hard"?

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but that isn’t going to happen.

You're speaking for everyone?

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When it doesn’t, it pisses you off.

This was the dead giveaway. You know the concept of projection, right? That's *why* psychiatrists stay anonymous with their patients. Christ, you just projected like a poster boy. Naah, you're not pissed off because there's nothing you can do about the existence of gay people; you're just focusing on their problems as if you know more than they, more than science, and more than all of educated opinion.

Got it.

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I say, too damn bad, you brought it upon yourself.

So why can I explain every point by which I counter you, and why have I shot your authority to pieces?

Sucks when educated opinion disagrees with you.

Puts you in quite a position.

Not my problem, champ. Hey, go try to convince the AMA and the APA. Get it on video. Put it on youtube. I'd buy popcorn.

Serious.

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I totally agree and have been sad and angry myself. I keep saying I won't read it anymore, but I just can't let this ignorance, hate and bigotry continue with out fighting it.

As I have said in other contexts, the antigay messed up hugely when they started to scream about this. Look where it's gotten them: They've only hardened their opposition and increased its numbers.

Why do you folks try and smear people about whether they are gay or not?

You are like children but bigotted and ignorant.

Only in amerikkka would a group of people eat chicken to show their biggotted ignorance.

Amerikkkkka - be proud.

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It's not conservatives

You couldn't keep your mouth shut, could you.

You realize that there's nothing you can do about the fact that your "opposition" see the word "conservative" as synonymous with "Nazi" and "rapist" and various other colorful terms?

How dare the pro-gay be in your face as much as you're in theirs! How dare they! My guess is they're in your face because they think *exactly* the same of you that you do of them. This means what you call them has no effect,

as cpeter has illustrated.

But you couldn't let that rest; you had to respond to cpeter and try to *force* him to care.

Do you think before you type?

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like me who are trying to push an agenda in the public schools. It's homosexual advocates who seek to teach that perverted homosexual behavior is one of several acceptable lifestyle choices.

Psst; I think they'll take you seriously when you can prove it's a choice, but not before.

Not their fault; the ultraconservative had to open their big mouths and claim repetitively that it's a choice. That puts the pro-gay in the position of demanding proof.

They're waiting.

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Fine with me if we left sex education out of public schools completely.

Agreed; this is fair enough.

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Of course it is. And if you choose to engage in deviant, perverted sexual acts, then you have nothing to bitch about when you feel society's disdain.

So why are you crying and wailing when you feel *their* disdain?

Do it. I dare you. Do it. Tell me that somehow what *you* are doing here is different or noble in any way; I wanna watch you hang yourself.

You got disdain. Here's me, replying to YOU replying to that disdain. The problem for you is,*I'm* not the one who made the *original* claims about crying over anything.

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Yep, but you're a very small part.

This is straight from the antigay "playbook": the endlessly stubborn claim that the pro-gay are a tiny minority.

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Society as a whole rejects homosexual behavior as deviant and perverted.

And right now hundreds of gay people are having sex and don't care. And they're seeing you as psychologically damaged -- and can explain why, in chilling detail.

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Ever wonder why gay marriage has been voted down every time and in every place it has ever been put to a vote of the people?

NOPE, I don't wonder at all. Let's take you to court.

This is a hypothetical; I don't find you unlikable.

You are taken to court and maligned in every way possible. Wonder what kinda verdict the jury's gonna bring back, har har har.

Seems that *maligning and lying about* gay people is the only way to win those state votes, right?

Don't take my word for it. Go check out the COURT TRANSCRIPTS for every gay rights case in the past few years; for some weird reason, almost *none* of what's said to win those state referenda appears in the court transcripts.

Wonder why.

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You've proven yourself to be exactly that. You choose to engage in homosexual behavior. Along with that choice comes the disdain of society. When you whine and bitch about that disdain, you're being nothing but a crybaby.
If you can't take the heat, stay in the closet.

It's honestly comedic to me that you *cannot win this* unless you admit that the same is true of heterosexuals. Attempting to differentiate orientations means they'll only flip it around on you.

(dead serious) No wonder you people are so outraged you've begun to sound like mental patients. The dead giveaway? You're trying to make it *their* problem, not yours.

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Otherwise, they will continue to destroy society at every level.

Yes bigotry destroys our country.

We should be grateful that the more forward thinkers, the young and the well informed believe that homophobia will die down when the bigots move into the nether world.

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Not any more than any other group, and certainly nothing anywhere near the suffering of the Jews in WW2.

This is classic antigay baiting: attempt to put "the opposition" in a position where they would deny the suffering of any group in any context.

It won't stop anyone intelligent from asking *how this poster would know this*, and/or why they would insist upon it so virulently.

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Uh, no they don't. Homosexuals engage in sexual acts with members of their same gender. Heterosexuals don't.
Are you really so stupid you don't know the difference?

This poster is an individual who may have severe personal problems; I wouldn't know. I can tell you that the above portion of the response is a completely deliberate skirting of the issue which the previous poster brought up: Gay and straight people do *the same* things in bed; note how important it is for this poster to hysterically deny this.

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No. I don't engage in deviant, perverted homosexual behavior.

Note the need to repeat this over and over.

Yet this poster purports to have any dignity of self.

Something's not adding up here.

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Sure, you can ignore me. But what you can't ignore are the facts and reality that I put forth. And that's really what pisses you off.

Note the repetitive need of the poster to announce to *strangers* how they feel. This is an attempt to control others which may well issue purely from rage or a sense of helplessness against what this poster sees as the "problem."

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Yep, and that's precisely why society rejects you.

This is the poster speaking for society.

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You don't care about others around you, you're extremely selfish.

Unlike the generous, kind-hearted souls who have attempted to wreck the lives of families *and their small children* with state votes against gay marriage. Somehow, to this poster, that was generous and giving and wonderful, yet someone attempting to defend himself or others against viciousness is "selfish." Guess the Jews in Nazi Germany were "selfish." Guess black people were "selfish" for opposing the KKK. That's this poster's logic.

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You expect society to bend over backwards to accommodate you. Guess what, it ain't going to happen.

It already has. The problem with this portion of the response?... how the poster *misclassifies* what has happened.

guest wrote:

Maybe it's time you put on your big girl panties and stopped whining like a little bitch.

Says the person who ...

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You chose the homosexual lifestyle.

Because maybe if this poster repeats this enough times, someone might fall for it?...

This poster hopes to change the *internal historical, physical and psychological knowledge* of gay people by his words.

Come on, now; that's funny, no? Attempting to go up against fact and human nature and distort them due solely to a sense of personal hatred?

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You chose society's disdain that comes with it. It's time for you to stop being a crybaby.

This savagery is sometimes difficult to understand. The reason I try to avoid being literally cruel to antigay people like this poster is that *they are fucked-up individuals* who were somehow abused or wrecked by other people, resulting in THIS.

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Not any more than any other group, and certainly nothing anywhere near the suffering of the Jews in WW2.
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Uh, no they don't. Homosexuals engage in sexual acts with members of their same gender. Heterosexuals don't.
Are you really so stupid you don't know the difference?
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No. I don't engage in deviant, perverted homosexual behavior.
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Sure, you can ignore me. But what you can't ignore are the facts and reality that I put forth. And that's really what pisses you off.
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Yep, and that's precisely why society rejects you. You don't care about others around you, you're extremely selfish. You expect society to bend over backwards to accommodate you. Guess what, it ain't going to happen.
Maybe it's time you put on your big girl panties and stopped whining like a little bitch. You chose the homosexual lifestyle. You chose society's disdain that comes with it. It's time for you to stop being a crybaby.

Interesting how the rich, pampered, and pandered to homosexuals here in America have appropriated (stolen) the history and suffering of another people as their own, the Jews of Hitler's Europe. Now the Holocaust 'belongs' to the homosexuals to exploit for political gain, just as the homosexuals have 'borrowed' the history and suffering of black people to use for similar ends.
Of course they must masquerade as the sympathetic figures from the past because the actual history of homosexuals reads like a transcript of the Jerry Sandusky trial.

Donate2NOM wrote:

<quoted text>Interesting how the rich, pampered, and pandered to homosexuals here in America have appropriated (stolen) the history and suffering of another people as their own, the Jews of Hitler's Europe. Now the Holocaust 'belongs' to the homosexuals to exploit for political gain, just as the homosexuals have 'borrowed' the history and suffering of black people to use for similar ends.
Of course they must masquerade as the sympathetic figures from the past because the actual history of homosexuals reads like a transcript of the Jerry Sandusky trial.

How is the history of homosexuals any different from the history of heterosexuals?

How are you any different from the bigots of the past?

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This is classic antigay baiting: attempt to put "the opposition" in a position where they would deny the suffering of any group in any context.
It won't stop anyone intelligent from asking *how this poster would know this*, and/or why they would insist upon it so virulently.
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This poster is an individual who may have severe personal problems; I wouldn't know. I can tell you that the above portion of the response is a completely deliberate skirting of the issue which the previous poster brought up: Gay and straight people do *the same* things in bed; note how important it is for this poster to hysterically deny this.
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Note the need to repeat this over and over.
Yet this poster purports to have any dignity of self.
Something's not adding up here.
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Note the repetitive need of the poster to announce to *strangers* how they feel. This is an attempt to control others which may well issue purely from rage or a sense of helplessness against what this poster sees as the "problem."
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This is the poster speaking for society.
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Unlike the generous, kind-hearted souls who have attempted to wreck the lives of families *and their small children* with state votes against gay marriage. Somehow, to this poster, that was generous and giving and wonderful, yet someone attempting to defend himself or others against viciousness is "selfish." Guess the Jews in Nazi Germany were "selfish." Guess black people were "selfish" for opposing the KKK. That's this poster's logic.
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It already has. The problem with this portion of the response?... how the poster *misclassifies* what has happened.
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Says the person who ...
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Because maybe if this poster repeats this enough times, someone might fall for it?...
This poster hopes to change the *internal historical, physical and psychological knowledge* of gay people by his words.
Come on, now; that's funny, no? Attempting to go up against fact and human nature and distort them due solely to a sense of personal hatred?
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This savagery is sometimes difficult to understand. The reason I try to avoid being literally cruel to antigay people like this poster is that *they are fucked-up individuals* who were somehow abused or wrecked by other people, resulting in THIS.

Thank you great post

Donate2NOM wrote:

<quoted text>Interesting how the rich, pampered, and pandered to homosexuals here in America have appropriated (stolen) the history and suffering of another people as their own, the Jews of Hitler's Europe. Now the Holocaust 'belongs' to the homosexuals to exploit for political gain, just as the homosexuals have 'borrowed' the history and suffering of black people to use for similar ends.
Of course they must masquerade as the sympathetic figures from the past because the actual history of homosexuals reads like a transcript of the Jerry Sandusky trial.

Actually Hitler murdered thousands of people, Jewish were the predominate but also Gays along with Serbs, Pols and others. How do you think the pink triangle became one of the symbols of homosexuality?

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Actually Hitler murdered thousands of people, Jewish were the predominate but also Gays along with Serbs, Pols and others. How do you think the pink triangle became one of the symbols of homosexuality?

Hitler had no problem using obviously gay men when they were effective for him and promoted his cause...

Bigots rarely stand by their false convictions. Bigotry is entirely based on the "me first" ideology. Very ittle else matters.

Conservative would prefer that nothing at all be taught in schools; keeping people ignorant just contributes to your voter base. Schools are trying to create tolerance to make safe learning environments. It is not the school's place to say that any group is inherently wrong.

You know only my orientation; you have no idea what I do in bed. For all we know, you are keeping a trio of vietnamese 12yo's in your basement for your sexual pleasure. Society can suck its own disdain; it's the laws that interest me.

I'm not whining about anything; I, like many other gays and their allies, are walking right over you and your childish, cowardly prejudices. The future is ours, not yours.

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It's not conservatives like me who are trying to push an agenda in the public schools. It's homosexual advocates who seek to teach that perverted homosexual behavior is one of several acceptable lifestyle choices.
Fine with me if we left sex education out of public schools completely.
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Of course it is. And if you choose to engage in deviant, perverted sexual acts, then you have nothing to bitch about when you feel society's disdain.
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Yep, but you're a very small part. Society as a whole rejects homosexual behavior as deviant and perverted. Ever wonder why gay marriage has been voted down every time and in every place it has ever been put to a vote of the people?
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You've proven yourself to be exactly that. You choose to engage in homosexual behavior. Along with that choice comes the disdain of society. When you whine and bitch about that disdain, you're being nothing but a crybaby.
If you can't take the heat, stay in the closet.