7 Bad Celebrity Dads

krackerjacks wrote:

I haven't been to this thread for almost a week!!!
Now you and Jermaine come here whining about how I can't seem to be able to drop it????

Whining? I'm just pointing out you have anger issues, crossed the line from discipline to abuse with your kids, and your bad attitude toward women leaves me wondering how you treated your wife.

Len is Disgusted wrote:

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Jermaine, even though I think life would be easier if you didn't get so angry about the legal documents proving Michael was a child molester, I agree with you 100% about Krackerjacks. I think he abused his kids, and by his hostility toward women, I'm starting to wonder about his treatment of his wife.
I also can't believe I came back, a week later, to find Krackerjacks still has his pants up his crack.

Well. how bout that..you agree with me.

krackerjacks wrote:

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Don't be a sore loser, loser.

If spanking is automatically a “physical assault” on a child, why stop there? Forcing an apology should be deemed “mental abuse,” taking away a toy as punishment should be called what it is,“stealing” and a time out in a child’s room should be viewed as cruel isolation and hence,“emotional abuse.”

Maybe we should just play it safe, avoid all corrective responses and let our children just decide how they want to behave.

krackerjacks wrote:

<quoted text>If spanking is automatically a “physical assault” on a child, why stop there? Forcing an apology should be deemed “mental abuse,” taking away a toy as punishment should be called what it is,“stealing” and a time out in a child’s room should be viewed as cruel isolation and hence,“emotional abuse.”

Maybe we should just play it safe, avoid all corrective responses and let our children just decide how they want to behave.

Michael Jackson never spanked his children, he played a lot with them. Children should be allowed to be children and play games a lot. Play is so healthy for the mind and emotional well being. That's why his children are polite, intelligent and respect others. They are confident and know how to stand up for themselves.

Len is Disgusted wrote:

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Whining? I'm just pointing out you have anger issues, crossed the line from discipline to abuse with your kids, and your bad attitude toward women leaves me wondering how you treated your wife.

Let's put Len theories to the test, shall we?

The "studies" from people that seek to ban corporal punishment suggest that physically disciplining our children teaches them that violence is an acceptable part of life, that children that get spanked might become bullies.

What does taking away something that belongs to a child teach them? I mean, you GAVE them that toy, right? That means it BELONGS to that child and now you're taking it away.

Some would call that "stealing."

So if we apply the same theory that violence breeds violence, wouldn't taking away a child's possessions teach that child that it's good reasoning to take things away from people if you want to send them a message?

That's just crazy, right?

It's the same principal that you're trying to get us to promote about spanking!!

goodvibrations wrote:

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Michael Jackson never spanked his children, he played a lot with them. Children should be allowed to be children and play games a lot. Play is so healthy for the mind and emotional well being. That's why his children are polite, intelligent and respect others. They are confident and know how to stand up for themselves.

Don't say he spank them or that his children are not polite, intelligent or respect others..but you have no idea about them or do you know them?You live in a fantasy world.

krackerjacks wrote:

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Let's put Len theories to the test, shall we?
The "studies" from people that seek to ban corporal punishment suggest that physically disciplining our children teaches them that violence is an acceptable part of life, that children that get spanked might become bullies.
What does taking away something that belongs to a child teach them? I mean, you GAVE them that toy, right? That means it BELONGS to that child and now you're taking it away.
Some would call that "stealing."
So if we apply the same theory that violence breeds violence, wouldn't taking away a child's possessions teach that child that it's good reasoning to take things away from people if you want to send them a message?
That's just crazy, right?
It's the same principal that you're trying to get us to promote about spanking!!

You're trying to hard to cover up the fact your treatment of your son created him into a "disicpline" problem.

Len is Disgusted wrote:

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You're trying to hard to cover up the fact your treatment of your son created him into a "disicpline" problem.

You've never met my son and yet, you have the "facts," do you?

My question was, "What do you think taking away a child's prized possession is teaching him?"

What's your theory of what a juvenile delinquent I would turn my son into if I forced other forms of punishment on him, like taking away his toys?

Not much of a chance you'll answer that question now that you've turned off you brain, huh?

Don't forget now!! Discipling your children with spankings instantly turns them into "disciplinary problems!"

But stealing away a treasure that belongs to your child, no matter how much it breaks their little hearts has no negative effects whatsoever!!

After awhile, a child would learn to be apprehensive of any gift his or her parent gives them if that parent had the habit of taking them away again.

A truly smart child would learn not to get too attached to presents their parent give them!!!!

But I'm not supposed to think it out this far.

I'm just supposed accept that people smarter than I am say it's better than spanking!!

I don’t care what you say; you’ll never convince me that parents don't get angry with their children. Corporal punishment isn’t any more harmful to a child than what a non-spanking, angry parent might say in haste. I don’t know about you but I still remember mean things people said to me as a child.

If you take away spanking, it means you’re going to have to resort to other forms of punishment. If they don’t work, you’re gonna get angry and it’s very possible that giving that disobedient child a few measured swats on the fanny would be far more merciful than unleashing your frustration on them, making hurtful comments or stealing their toys!!!

If you're discerning enough to doubt what others demand you accept without question in regards to disciplinary techniques, don't be intimidated by these loudmouths just because they’re presumptuous enough to tell you what’s best for YOUR children.

IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO QUESTION THE SO CALLED "EXPERTS!!"

In fact, you owe it to your children to do so!

Hunja wrote:

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Don't say he spank them or that his children are not polite, intelligent or respect others..but you have no idea about them or do you know them?You live in a fantasy world.

Those children are always polite in public and many people that have personally known them insist they are. That's no fantasy, it's a reality.

krackerjacks wrote:

If you're discerning enough to doubt what others demand you accept without question in regards to disciplinary techniques, don't be intimidated by these loudmouths just because they’re presumptuous enough to tell you what’s best for YOUR children.
IT IS YOUR RIGHT TO QUESTION THE SO CALLED "EXPERTS!!"
In fact, you owe it to your children to do so!

Psychologist Dr Benjamin Spock. His book, Baby and Child Care has become the world's best-selling non-fiction publication after the Bible. But looking at adult/child relationships today, how right was Spock to promote the soft touch? Spock notes that he was reared in a family "with stern morals even by New England standards."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/6634...

http://www.icr.org/article/baby-doctor-benjam...

goodvibrations wrote:

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Psychologist Dr Benjamin Spock. His book, Baby and Child Care has become the world's best-selling non-fiction publication after the Bible. But looking at adult/child relationships today, how right was Spock to promote the soft touch? Spock notes that he was reared in a family "with stern morals even by New England standards."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/talking_point/6634...
http://www.icr.org/article/baby-doctor-benjam...

All I'm saying is that parents owe it to themselves and their kids to not simply go with what's popular on a topic as controversial as disciplining techniques. People that try to tell you that physical methods are instantly cruel child abuse are WRONG!! They aren't gonna be there when little Johnny gets expelled from school again and taking away his toys isn't working. They aren't gonna coach you when you’re at wits end and getting more frustrated by the second.

I say INFORM YOURSELF to what different experts call "reasonable punishment" and make up your own minds.

Now it's time for me to step aside so loudmouths like Jina and Len can shout, "Don't listen to that as*hole, krackerjacks!! He's a brutal child abuser!! Only listen to US, cuz we know what's best for your child!!"

krackerjacks wrote:

<quoted text>All I'm saying is that parents owe it to themselves and their kids to not simply go with what's popular on a topic as controversial as disciplining techniques. People that try to tell you that physical methods are instantly cruel child abuse are WRONG!! They aren't gonna be there when little Johnny gets expelled from school again and taking away his toys isn't working. They aren't gonna coach you when youÂ’re at wits end and getting more frustrated by the second.

I say INFORM YOURSELF to what different experts call "reasonable punishment" and make up your own minds.

Now it's time for me to step aside so loudmouths like Jina and Len can shout, "Don't listen to that as*hole, krackerjacks!! He's a brutal child abuser!! Only listen to US, cuz we know what's best for your child!!"

If you had read the articles you would see the many people that followed his child rearing practice are questioning them through the outcome.

goodvibrations wrote:

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If you had read the articles you would see the many people that followed his child rearing practice are questioning them through the outcome.

I don't need to read your articles; I've raised my children. I was referring to young parents, trying to decipher what is best for their kids. Articles like the one you mention study other children. They don't study YOUR KIDS. The only person that can get to know your child's mind is YOU. If your child is an approval seeker and hates to see you get upset, you don't need to spank them. However, it's even odds that your gonna end up with a rebellious child, one that will never stop testing boundaries.

I know, I was one.

Would you like to know what I would've done if my parents had sent me to my room for a "time out" or taken away a prized possession of mine? I certainly wouldn't have given in. It would make me mad and I would disobey again just to get back at them.

But I'll let you in on a little secret…

I was terrified of spankings. Not cuz my father beat me bloody but cuz it was forceful and it hurt!

It was also the only thing that got through my thick skull.

krackerjacks wrote:

<quoted text>I don't need to read your articles; I've raised my children. I was referring to young parents, trying to decipher what is best for their kids. Articles like the one you mention study other children. They don't study YOUR KIDS. The only person that can get to know your child's mind is YOU. If your child is an approval seeker and hates to see you get upset, you don't need to spank them. However, it's even odds that your gonna end up with a rebellious child, one that will never stop testing boundaries.

I know, I was one.

Would you like to know what I would've done if my parents had sent me to my room for a "time out" or taken away a prized possession of mine? I certainly wouldn't have given in. It would make me mad and I would disobey again just to get back at them.

But I'll let you in on a little secretÂ…

I was terrified of spankings. Not cuz my father beat me bloody but cuz it was forceful and it hurt!

It was also the only thing that got through my thick skull.

Lol I don't have children and don't want any. Too much responsibility for me to handle. I love my freedom too much.

goodvibrations wrote:

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Lol I don't have children and don't want any. Too much responsibility for me to handle. I love my freedom too much.

Right. According to your prior posts, it's much more fun to sleep with other people's children.

Rickey Bobby wrote:

<quoted text>Right. According to your prior posts, it's much more fun to sleep with other people's children.

Bring the post up. You are mistaken

Rickey Bobby wrote:

<quoted text>Right. According to your prior posts, it's much more fun to sleep with other people's children.

That's when she was using her different trolling nic. Never mind though, different name, same crap.

PEOPLE OF TOPIX BEWARE!!

Jina has had a few days to let the swelling go down after the vigorous spanking I gave her a few days ago and she's back with a vengence!

She's pissed and wants you to know it!!