We must tax the rich

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The Charleston Gazette recently had an editorial about the recent CBS "60 Minutes" segment that featured Cisco CEO John Chambers, Jr., who revealed what many should understand: U.S. companies that publicly proclaim loyalty to America are in fact loyal only to money.

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litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#7854 Jun 23, 2012
at home in lynching counties wrote:
please tell us all how any corp. punishes it;s(sic) workers or the mid.(sic) class ?(sic)
The unshining example is corporate India, where two workers are killed in the ship deconstruction industry per ship. Of course, injuries are ~20 to 30 times that rate. The worst corporations don't care about their workers, & strive to cause their workers to die at a greater rate, if safety measures cut into corporate profits.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#7855 Jun 23, 2012
at home in lynching counties wrote:
..... at least their(sic) earning a wage....
Blue collars, secretaries, designers, engineers, techs, etc earn their wages(including sub-survival wages) better than upper level paper shufflers & people pushers do, who get multi-million dollar bonus, stock option & retirement packages, only because they are close to the money & rack off their unfair share.
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#7856 Jun 23, 2012
litesong wrote:
People paid sub-survival wages by rich companies, subsidize those rich companies.
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'at home in lynching counties' wrote:
at least their(sic) earning a wage......
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litesong wrote:
'at home in lynching counties' says nothing that people are paid sub-survival wages, nothing about undeserved million dollar(as high as $400 million) bonus, stock option & retirement packages, & nothing about stock market hedge fund schemes that cripple companies with pay-offs of billions of dollars to individuals.

'at home in lynching counties' cares nothing about failing wage earner families but complains when those families need help.
Liberal4Life

Stockton, CA

#7857 Jun 23, 2012
home in lincoln county wrote:
<quoted text> same marxist rants again no thought of your own , so other than a socialist form of govt. to run ALL types businesses what would you propose to use in place of what we have now ? also please tell all of use just which socialist govt. on this planet has ever been able to have FULL employment for ALL of it working people where these working people were nothing more than SLAVES of the state ? soviet union , china , viet nam , cuba just which one had free people who were not a SLAVE TO THE STATE and this is what you propose to replace our systems with ?
try looking at production quotes from the old soviet union run plants or farms , you won't have to worry about buying or having the state supply good and services because slaves don't produce any to use .
Sorry My good little Corporate Fascist Friend the moment you start using the "Marxism" word to describe me and other Democrats you lose all Credibility your nothing more than a Far Right Stooge for FIX News and you do a good job of parroting your handlers Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush Bimbo.

These lies and paranoid false accusations of Marxism and Communism don't exsist in our current Government they never have and never will in case you haven't noticed Communism and Marxism have been long passe even the Russians,China and Cuba have accepted Capitalism as the way to run their countries.

Everytime I hear ignorant folks like you and Alan West making these stupid accusations I know that they are lies and baseless hateful Bull Sh*T!!!
Liberal4Life

Stockton, CA

#7858 Jun 23, 2012
home in lincoln county wrote:
<quoted text> same marxist rants again no thought of your own , so other than a socialist form of govt. to run ALL types businesses what would you propose to use in place of what we have now ? also please tell all of use just which socialist govt. on this planet has ever been able to have FULL employment for ALL of it working people where these working people were nothing more than SLAVES of the state ? soviet union , china , viet nam , cuba just which one had free people who were not a SLAVE TO THE STATE and this is what you propose to replace our systems with ?
try looking at production quotes from the old soviet union run plants or farms , you won't have to worry about buying or having the state supply good and services because slaves don't produce any to use .
Question did the Far Right Tea Bagging Congressman Alan West ever prove that several memebers of congress were Communists?

Answer: NOT!!!!! Another attempt at distracting the succkers like you so that you don't see what's behind the curtain and the answer to whats behind the curtain nothing the Republicans haven't done a damm thing except make a bigger mess and not creat one single job the only thing they are doing is taking care of their Rich Buddies and giving them more tax breaks that they do not need or deserve at the expense of tax payers like me and you? WTF? Is that even right?
litesong

Lynnwood, WA

#7859 Jun 23, 2012
Liberal4Life wrote:
Sorry My good little Corporate Fascist Friend(said of 'at home in lynching counties')
I'm sorry you don't like the new name of 'at home in lynching counties'.
Joseph

Charlottesville, VA

#7860 Jun 23, 2012
Liberal4Life wrote:
<quoted text>I won't complain will you? I can accept that the Corporate Fascists wil ltry to punish honest har d working American's like me but Remember without the Middle Class and the Poor buying their Products The Greddy Rich ain't Sheet!!! My advice to you and the Greedy Rich is to Respect the Left and the Middle Class Before We all Put you anf thr Top 1% out of business!!! Corporate Fascism is Un-American and Unacceptable in America!!!!
Get a job! Welfare grubber. You just want to tax the rich so you can shoot up and have more welfare money to buy fishing bait and beer. You probably rob, rape and mug people asa past time now.
J Irsay

Thorntown, IN

#7861 Jun 23, 2012
Joseph wrote:
<quoted text> Get a job! Welfare grubber. You just want to tax the rich so you can shoot up and have more welfare money to buy fishing bait and beer. You probably rob, rape and mug people asa past time now.
That's right! Lay off the rich will ya? Taxes should be used for important things....Like stadiums for professional sports teams owned my multimillionaires. Saves us a lot of money. That means MORE MONEY IN MY POCKET TO BUY COCAINE!!!

Go Colts!

And keep privatizing the profits and socializing the costs.
Liberal4Life

Stockton, CA

#7862 Jun 23, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sorry you don't like the new name of 'at home in lynching counties'.
I love the song and the words it's perfect! It describes are paranoid little corporate fascist friend very well!
Liberal4Life

Stockton, CA

#7863 Jun 23, 2012
Joseph wrote:
<quoted text> Get a job! Welfare grubber. You just want to tax the rich so you can shoot up and have more welfare money to buy fishing bait and beer. You probably rob, rape and mug people asa past time now.
Get a Life and A Job You FaR Right FAKE News Stooge and Fool Thats Supports the Greedy Rich that Doesn't care about your Sorry Arse! I'll bet you love your Unemployment Checks when they arrive in your mail box and I'll bet your one of those old fools that likes hi Social Security and Medicare Benefits but doesn't want to pay for them? Your nothing more than a Sorry Arse Wing Nut and a Hypocrite!!!
Liberal4Life

Stockton, CA

#7864 Jun 23, 2012
J Irsay wrote:
<quoted text>That's right! Lay off the rich will ya? Taxes should be used for important things....Like stadiums for professional sports teams owned my multimillionaires. Saves us a lot of money. That means MORE MONEY IN MY POCKET TO BUY COCAINE!!!
Go Colts!
And keep privatizing the profits and socializing the costs.
Yup! The Rich and Wall Street sure Love Socialism when it benefits them and Saves them from Spending their own money by Using our Tax Payers Money and Never really giving it back in return.

Since: Aug 11

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#7866 Jun 24, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
The unshining example is corporate India, where two workers are killed in the ship deconstruction industry per ship. Of course, injuries are ~20 to 30 times that rate. The worst corporations don't care about their workers, & strive to cause their workers to die at a greater rate, if safety measures cut into corporate profits.
well i didn't know we were discussing global worker welfare i thought the discussion was for here in the states , WHERE I DON'T KNOW OF ANY WORKER ABUSE by any corp. but i am sure that all of you socialist will find some examples of your story and because of tour hatred of money and businesses .

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#7867 Jun 24, 2012
Liberal4Life wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry My good little Corporate Fascist Friend the moment you start using the "Marxism" word to describe me and other Democrats you lose all Credibility your nothing more than a Far Right Stooge for FIX News and you do a good job of parroting your handlers Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and Rush Bimbo.
These lies and paranoid false accusations of Marxism and Communism don't exsist in our current Government they never have and never will in case you haven't noticed Communism and Marxism have been long passe even the Russians,China and Cuba have accepted Capitalism as the way to run their countries.
Everytime I hear ignorant folks like you and Alan West making these stupid accusations I know that they are lies and baseless hateful Bull Sh*T!!!
wrong again as i am older that you i have heard all this marxist - nazie rantings before right before ww ii but iam sure that you and thee rest of your ( democrat friends ) lol have and will continue to try to re writ history on that page of the book to.
as far as the countries of russia and china their leadership is and continues to be WHAT ? communist , they just excepted their own form of capitalism to make money to support their govt.'s as they both tried the form of govt. that you and your friends would have here if you could and i might add both FRIGGIN FAILED !

no i hate to break your little ( cnn , msnbc, abc, cbs ,nbc loving heart ) i rarely watch any t v or news .

however looser for life and swan song i do have one thing that both of you don't have . and that is that i have lived the history of your kind and witnessed what your words and actions have brought to mankind world wide . what you fear is that i and a many like me know the truth about your kind and want NOTHING to do with your type of false govt. that itself can only survive through fear , control ,and death !

i know a lot of true american democrats and none of them say or agree with the things that you and others post here . you may parrot some of the leadership in the national dem . party but not real american democrats .

lastly you and swan song can try to yell me down through name calling etc. which is what your kind has always done to those you disagree with . and no neither of you have hurt my feelings as i have been call worse by better people than you two will ever be.
Liberal4Life

Stockton, CA

#7868 Jun 24, 2012
Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:

"I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just
pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more
than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible
for re-election.

The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds)
took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple!
The people demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail,
cell phones, etc.

Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year
or less to become the law of the land - all because of public pressure.

Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to
a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask
each of those to do likewise.

In three days, most people in The United States of America will
have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed
around.

Congressional Reform Act of 2012

1. No Tenure / No Pension.

A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no
pay when they're out of office.

2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social
Security.

All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the
Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into
the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the
American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all
Americans do.

4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

5. Congress loses their current health care system and
participates in the same health care system as the American people.

6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the
American people.

7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void
effective 12/1/12. The American people did not make this
contract with Congressmen/women.


Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in
Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers
envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their
term(s), then go home and back to work.

If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will
only take three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive
the message. Don't you think it's time?

THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!

If you agree, pass it on. If not, delete.
You are one of my 20+- Please keep it going, and thanks



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Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#7869 Jun 24, 2012
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Blue collars, secretaries, designers, engineers, techs, etc earn their wages(including sub-survival wages) better than upper level paper shufflers & people pushers do, who get multi-million dollar bonus, stock option & retirement packages, only because they are close to the money & rack off their unfair share.
who says it their un fair share you ? and just how would you go about proving such a statement ? as their employment is between the employee and employer . what bogus labor dept. stats . the word of the now ex employee . if these folks were or are un happy with the employment or pay they can first ask and prove to the employer why their services are an asset to the company , get a better education as to get a better paying job , or seek employment at a different company .

you socialist always forget that the job DOESN'T BELONG TO THE EMPLOYEE ! but to the employer and even if that same job is owned by the state it's still owned by the employer , just like in the old soviet union , but with one big difference almost NO CHANCE EVER OF ADVANCEMENT ! the poor down trodden worker give me a friggen break , try running a business in this country some day , do all the paper work , have to operate by the rule and regulations set forth by some local , state or federal govt. agency you never heard of . not to mention the cost of each employee that you have to meet these regs. for .

ok i know your going to post that you already own a business and you have none of these problems . theres a big difference in a at home mail order business and running a company with 10 , 20 , or 1,000 employees.
Liberal4Life

Stockton, CA

#7870 Jun 25, 2012
home in lincoln county wrote:
<quoted text> wrong again as i am older that you i have heard all this marxist - nazie rantings before right before ww ii but iam sure that you and thee rest of your ( democrat friends ) lol have and will continue to try to re writ history on that page of the book to.
as far as the countries of russia and china their leadership is and continues to be WHAT ? communist , they just excepted their own form of capitalism to make money to support their govt.'s as they both tried the form of govt. that you and your friends would have here if you could and i might add both FRIGGIN FAILED !
no i hate to break your little ( cnn , msnbc, abc, cbs ,nbc loving heart ) i rarely watch any t v or news .
however looser for life and swan song i do have one thing that both of you don't have . and that is that i have lived the history of your kind and witnessed what your words and actions have brought to mankind world wide . what you fear is that i and a many like me know the truth about your kind and want NOTHING to do with your type of false govt. that itself can only survive through fear , control ,and death !
i know a lot of true american democrats and none of them say or agree with the things that you and others post here . you may parrot some of the leadership in the national dem . party but not real american democrats .
lastly you and swan song can try to yell me down through name calling etc. which is what your kind has always done to those you disagree with . and no neither of you have hurt my feelings as i have been call worse by better people than you two will ever be.
Calm down Old Man! I would hate for you to have a cardiac arrest I know your Far Righties are pretty angry right about now and that's perfectly fine with me be angry! Be Obstructionist's! Fool yourselves into believing that you all have the upper hand!
However just becasue you maybe older than me does not mean that your necessairly wiser or know everything and are even remotely correct about your Far Right Coporate Fascist Ideology of Greed is Good and Allow The Corporations to take over and control governement which is basically what your advocating.
If my history serves me correctly this argument is not new the very same thing happened with FDR when he introduced the New Deal and Social Security back in his time the Old Repulbican's also accussed him of pushing Socialism and Communism once again the same old lies and false arguments based on primal fear and a resentment of doing anything productive in helping fellow American's down on their luck and struggling in bad economic times.
Either way Your wrong and I seriously doubt that you don't watch FOX News every Old Generation folks like you get your info from FOX News believe me in the real world I know a few Republican freinds that I've worked with over the years that watch and tell me what they heard in fact I just had luch with one Republican freind in his late 60's and he swears that Fast and Furious was Obama and Holders creation and fault however I proved him wrong!
The Bush Adminstration and Alberto Gonzales and Former Phoenix ATF Chief Morrison started Fast and Furious however it was called Operation Wide Receiver my friend never heard from it and it became clear to me that FOX News is Really One Sided and only educates it's audience on what they spin the truth to be so as you can see I know my stuff and I know how to shut Far Right Republicans like you up real fast don't ever mees with the very knowledgable Liberal4Life because you will always lose and you will all lose in November just accept the fact that mainstream America does not want Extremism and Corporate Fascism in our Government and also you speak of Democrats Re-Writing history I think actually it's the other way around was it not Michelle Bachman that the Founding Fathers intended to End Slavery? JaJaJa!!!8538
Liberal4Life

Stockton, CA

#7871 Jun 25, 2012
home in lincoln county wrote:
<quoted text> who says it their un fair share you ? and just how would you go about proving such a statement ? as their employment is between the employee and employer . what bogus labor dept. stats . the word of the now ex employee . if these folks were or are un happy with the employment or pay they can first ask and prove to the employer why their services are an asset to the company , get a better education as to get a better paying job , or seek employment at a different company .
you socialist always forget that the job DOESN'T BELONG TO THE EMPLOYEE ! but to the employer and even if that same job is owned by the state it's still owned by the employer , just like in the old soviet union , but with one big difference almost NO CHANCE EVER OF ADVANCEMENT ! the poor down trodden worker give me a friggen break , try running a business in this country some day , do all the paper work , have to operate by the rule and regulations set forth by some local , state or federal govt. agency you never heard of . not to mention the cost of each employee that you have to meet these regs. for .
ok i know your going to post that you already own a business and you have none of these problems . theres a big difference in a at home mail order business and running a company with 10 , 20 , or 1,000 employees.
I would prove it by just looking at the Huge Amounts fo Money that Wall Street CEO's get for supposedly do nothing more than losing other peoples money and using our bail out money to still give themselves bonuses that are not deserved!!

I too would rather see the employee get paid that extra money or for that money to be used to hire the new empolyess and create more jobs!

Sounds to me that your a very disgruntled Coporate Fascist Employer?

Remember without the employee your nothing and your business will be bound to fail!
Churmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#7872 Jun 25, 2012
Liberal4Life wrote:
<quoted text>I would prove it by just looking at the Huge Amounts fo Money that Wall Street CEO's get for supposedly do nothing more than losing other peoples money and using our bail out money to still give themselves bonuses that are not deserved!!
I too would rather see the employee get paid that extra money or for that money to be used to hire the new empolyess and create more jobs!
Sounds to me that your a very disgruntled Coporate Fascist Employer?
Remember without the employee your nothing and your business will be bound to fail!
I once had two employees. sometimes my buisness didnt make a dime yet those employees still recieved a paycheck. and all the extra taxes & red tape was my loss also. I got rid of them and my buisness hasent failed. Without customers my buisness would fail. Customers to buy your product or use your service are the driving force. the employees where not the buisness or the main driving force. Why do companies use robots if employees are so importiant. If I need hired help I use licensed contractors. They must have a Federal FEIN number and a sales tax number before they can work for me. Shure It likely cost me a little more but meeting pay roll was a big hassle.
Churmudgeon

Mountain Home, AR

#7873 Jun 25, 2012
I dont like wall street. If everyone would quit gambling in the stock market how much could those CEO,s rake in? If obama hadnt bailed out GM how much would their CEO,s rake in. The goverment shoulda stayed out of it and let GM fail. Like the volt is gonna solve the USA,s problems? GM will go under eventually. All the bailout did was kick the can down the road.

Since: Aug 11

Location hidden

#7874 Jun 25, 2012
Liberal4Life wrote:
<quoted text>Calm down Old Man! I would hate for you to have a cardiac arrest I know your Far Righties are pretty angry right about now and that's perfectly fine with me be angry! Be Obstructionist's! Fool yourselves into believing that you all have the upper hand!
However just becasue you maybe older than me does not mean that your necessairly wiser or know everything and are even remotely correct about your Far Right Coporate Fascist Ideology of Greed is Good and Allow The Corporations to take over and control governement which is basically what your advocating.
If my history serves me correctly this argument is not new the very same thing happened with FDR when he introduced the New Deal and Social Security back in his time the Old Repulbican's also accussed him of pushing Socialism and Communism once again the same old lies and false arguments based on primal fear and a resentment of doing anything productive in helping fellow American's down on their luck and struggling in bad economic times.
Either way Your wrong and I seriously doubt that you don't watch FOX News every Old Generation folks like you get your info from FOX News believe me in the real world I know a few Republican freinds that I've worked with over the years that watch and tell me what they heard in fact I just had luch with one Republican freind in his late 60's and he swears that Fast and Furious was Obama and Holders creation and fault however I proved him wrong!
The Bush Adminstration and Alberto Gonzales and Former Phoenix ATF Chief Morrison started Fast and Furious however it was called Operation Wide Receiver my friend never heard from it and it became clear to me that FOX News is Really One Sided and only educates it's audience on what they spin the truth to be so as you can see I know my stuff and I know how to shut Far Right Republicans like you up real fast don't ever mees with the very knowledgable Liberal4Life because you will always lose and you will all lose in November just accept the fact that mainstream America does not want Extremism and Corporate Fascism in our Government and also you speak of Democrats Re-Writing history I think actually it's the other way around was it not Michelle Bachman that the Founding Fathers intended to End Slavery? JaJaJa!!!8538
you see you prove your self a marxist , socialist ,progressive every time you use words like fascist etc . the same words used by marx him self .

the BIG DIFFERENCE between the two gun operations was that under bush and company THERE WERE ARREST MADE of law breakers and under obama's watch NOT A SINGLE ONE !

main stream america has already turned it's back on your type and obama , we will see this election who has the mandate for the country and to set in the white house ( oh and by the way i am not a romney fan either ).
but i again ask you what would you if you could replace our systems with ? you are full of party lines speeches yet offer nothing except how bad everything and everyone in this country is . yet in some of these other countries that you adore you would be lock up as a possible subversive with no freedom of speech or pres and in some a comrade hero .

as far as the press none of them tell the truth and ALL are hacks for one side or the other , there was a time in this country when the press would only report the story without giving the talking their biased opinion .

true history proves me correct not your new re written trash taught in schools to day ( like everything about america is bad ).

and lastly i am retired many years and don't work except on my farm , which i bought with MY MONEY i saved while in business by working hard and not setting on my butt whining about how unfair everything and life is .

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