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“Bowhunting Is Euphoric”
Since: Jan 09
Double Lung em
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hunters are COWARDS wrote: <quoted text> It;s referred to as Compensatory Rebound Effect Yes, that's what happens to me when I read your posts but most folks just call it vomiting. hunters are COWARDS wrote: <quoted text> The majority are learning the TRUTH behind the hunting sham and I will continue to help inform people. Translation: I am prepared to lie my ass off if even one sucker will listen. hunters are COWARDS wrote: <quoted text> There is no reason to hunt and there is no reason to eat animal corpses. Humans do not need to eat animal corpses and there are millions of people who are living proof of this. But there are billions of people who eat meat and who disagree with you. Vegans are grossly outnumbered.
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WhiteDevil
Ocoee, FL
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WhiteDevil wrote: I'm a poacher....I only kill for food though......I don't need no stinkin liscencs......no offence intended Squach. just kidding!
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hunters are COWARDS
Virginia Beach, VA
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Squach wrote: <quoted text>I take the first legal deer that I have a shot at. I don't wait for the strongest or the fittest. Actually I prefer mature does. I don't hunt for trophies, I don't hunt predators, and I don't hunt for sport. I hunt for food. I only hunt what I eat, deer, rabbit, and some squirrel. That's far from every animal I can kill. You keep telling me that there are non-animal "options"......anoth er word for choices. I do not choose the same path as you. That doesn't make either one of us wrong, it makes us individuals with choices. I don't see anything wrong with either choice. If anything, my choice is shared by many, many more humans than yours is. Does that make your choice wrong? I don't think so. I only know it is not the choice for me. You still haven't addressed my question about other omnivorous primates making tools to hunt and eat other animals. Is that natural? They were not taught to do this by man. Yet that is exactly what man does. Yes it's another word for 'choices' and your choices involve causing deliberate harm and death to other beings, mine do not. When your or anyone else's choices are causing other beings to suffer and die, then you can be sure that I will continue to speak out against it. It's not just a matter of trivial choices like what football team is the best or what car is the sportiest, these are choices that cause deliberate harm and death and people like me will never condone any activity that causes harm and death to innocent beings. You just need to accept that. These are after all the ANIMAL RIGHTS forums and typically it is geared towards the people who fight to protect ALL animals, because all animals lives matter. What other animals do has NOTHING to do with what humans choose to do. I find it almost amusing that many humans like to think they are 'superior' to all other animals, yet it seems they want to try and justify what they (humans) do by equating themselves to primates and what they do. We not only have a choice, but we have the capability of using reason as well as empathy and compassion. The thought of seeing a deer, a rabbit, a squirrel and then shooting them and watching them die moments after they were simply LIVING their lives makes me sick. I watch squirrels and rabbits in my yard and they bring peace to my heart and make me smile. I can't imagine being so heartless as to see such beauty and joyfulness and then take aim and blast the life from these incredible little beings. I am glad that I have grown to have genuine compassion, empathy and respect for animals and I will fight against all animal cruelty as long as I am on this Earth.
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hunters are COWARDS
Virginia Beach, VA
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WhiteDevil wrote: <quoted text>just kidding! LIAR
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WhiteDevil
Ocoee, FL
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Her posts are getting better,doc must have switched her medication.
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WhiteDevil
Ocoee, FL
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hunters are COWARDS wrote: <quoted text>LIAR Don't yell at me, I'll shoot your rabbit!
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hunters are COWARDS
Virginia Beach, VA
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^^witless trifling troll begging for attention and making an ass of itself^^
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WhiteDevil
Ocoee, FL
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hunters are COWARDS wrote: ^^witless trifling troll begging for attention and making an ass of itself^^ Wanna kiss and make up?
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“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”
Since: Oct 08
Boggy Creek
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hunters are COWARDS wrote: <quoted text>Yes it's another word for 'choices' and your choices involve causing deliberate harm and death to other beings, mine do not. When your or anyone else's choices are causing other beings to suffer and die, then you can be sure that I will continue to speak out against it. It's not just a matter of trivial choices like what football team is the best or what car is the sportiest, these are choices that cause deliberate harm and death and people like me will never condone any activity that causes harm and death to innocent beings. You just need to accept that. These are after all the ANIMAL RIGHTS forums and typically it is geared towards the people who fight to protect ALL animals, because all animals lives matter. What other animals do has NOTHING to do with what humans choose to do. I find it almost amusing that many humans like to think they are 'superior' to all other animals, yet it seems they want to try and justify what they (humans) do by equating themselves to primates and what they do. We not only have a choice, but we have the capability of using reason as well as empathy and compassion. The thought of seeing a deer, a rabbit, a squirrel and then shooting them and watching them die moments after they were simply LIVING their lives makes me sick. I watch squirrels and rabbits in my yard and they bring peace to my heart and make me smile. I can't imagine being so heartless as to see such beauty and joyfulness and then take aim and blast the life from these incredible little beings. I am glad that I have grown to have genuine compassion, empathy and respect for animals and I will fight against all animal cruelty as long as I am on this Earth. Humans are animals. We are omnivorous primates. Humans are superior to other animals in some respects and not in others. All life comes from the same source. What other animals do has everything to do with the natural choices humans make. That's why there is no difference between my hunting and the hunting of other predators, other than the fact that human hunting is regulated to protect and strengthen the prey species being hunted. Just because I hunt does not mean I have no respect for the animals I hunt. Quite the contrary, I have a great deal of respect for the animals I hunt. The prey I take do not suffer either. I have never lost a wounded animal and I can't remember the last time I didn't make an almost instant kill. I am a patient hunter and I'm confident in my skills. I would rather let a prey animal walk than take a risky shot. I'm not out there to prove anything to anyone. In the immortal words of Clint Eastwood "A man's got to know his limitations." I know mine and I feel no need to try to step outside of them. I know I've told you this before but it's worth repeating. I learned much of my philosophy from Native Americans and I emulate them in more than just my hunting. There are rabbits and squirrels living in my yard too, I do not hunt them. I don't hunt them because they are not truly wild. They are semi-tame pets, people in the neighborhood feed them and they are not accustomed to viewing humans as predators. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel. The animals I hunt live free in the wild and are adept at avoiding predators. I'm very tired after a long busy day and I'm starting to ramble so I'm going to hit the sack. I know you don't condone hunting or eating meat but I know in my heart that it is the most natural thing in the world. I respect your decisions and your convictions but I have mine too and they differ from yours. Through polite conversation like this I've gained some insight about you and your beliefs and it is hoped that you have learned something of me and mine.
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WhiteDevil
Ocoee, FL
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Goonight Squatch.....did you see the olive branch that I extended to haC?(sigh) See, I'm tryin!:)
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WhiteDevil
Ocoee, FL
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boy!I sure screwed that post up! goodnight folks!
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hunters are COWARDS
Virginia Beach, VA
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Squach wrote: <quoted text>Humans are animals. We are omnivorous primates. Humans are superior to other animals in some respects and not in others. All life comes from the same source. What other animals do has everything to do with the natural choices humans make. That's why there is no difference between my hunting and the hunting of other predators, other than the fact that human hunting is regulated to protect and strengthen the prey species being hunted. Just because I hunt does not mean I have no respect for the animals I hunt. Quite the contrary, I have a great deal of respect for the animals I hunt. The prey I take do not suffer either. I have never lost a wounded animal and I can't remember the last time I didn't make an almost instant kill. I am a patient hunter and I'm confident in my skills. I would rather let a prey animal walk than take a risky shot. I'm not out there to prove anything to anyone. In the immortal words of Clint Eastwood "A man's got to know his limitations." I know mine and I feel no need to try to step outside of them. I know I've told you this before but it's worth repeating. I learned much of my philosophy from Native Americans and I emulate them in more than just my hunting. There are rabbits and squirrels living in my yard too, I do not hunt them. I don't hunt them because they are not truly wild. They are semi-tame pets, people in the neighborhood feed them and they are not accustomed to viewing humans as predators. It would be like shooting fish in a barrel. The animals I hunt live free in the wild and are adept at avoiding predators. I'm very tired after a long busy day and I'm starting to ramble so I'm going to hit the sack. I know you don't condone hunting or eating meat but I know in my heart that it is the most natural thing in the world. I respect your decisions and your convictions but I have mine too and they differ from yours. Through polite conversation like this I've gained some insight about you and your beliefs and it is hoped that you have learned something of me and mine. Well, I will never agree with you about hunting, but it was nice to at least converse without so much anger and insults. You and Pete (peteo) have been the only hunters on topix that ever showed signs of decency (though you both were jerks more than a few times too ;) The other idiots here have crossed a line too many times and stooped to levels that were far beyond what a rational, decent person would ever stoop to, and I will never respect or converse seriously with any of them. I will keep fighting against all animal cruelty. As you know, I am in a minority right now, but we are growing every day. Just over 25 years ago I barely knew of the term 'vegan', I think I even mispronounced it as "vay-gun" initially. I was the only vegan I knew for quite some time, and now I see and hear the word and meet more vegans just about every day. We are more mainstream and it seems only the most ignorant (such as the disgusting trolls here on topix) that spend time condemning vegans/ARAs. In real life, the people I encounter are intrigued and inquisitive and I have lost count through the years of how many people I have inspired and guided to live a more compassionate, healthier life. This is not just a trend or a fad, I am witnessing a greater awareness and younger people are the greatest hope. I do believe in my lifetime I will see a more compassionate world, maybe not 100% as I would hope, but I do believe that the number of vegans is going to increase more in the next decade than ever before...
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“Bowhunting Is Euphoric”
Since: Jan 09
Double Lung em
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hunters are COWARDS wrote: <quoted text>Well, I will never agree with you about hunting, but it was nice to at least converse without so much anger and insults. You and Pete (peteo) have been the only hunters on topix that ever showed signs of decency (though you both were jerks more than a few times too ;) The other idiots here have crossed a line too many times and stooped to levels that were far beyond what a rational, decent person would ever stoop to, and I will never respect or converse seriously with any of them. I for one cannot tell you how disappointed I am that I won't be conversing seriously with a grunting baboon.
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“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”
Since: Oct 08
Boggy Creek
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WhiteDevil wrote: Goonight Squatch.....did you see the olive branch that I extended to haC?(sigh) See, I'm tryin!:) We all have to live together on this planet. We're not all going to agree about everything all of the time. We probably won't agree about anything much of the time. As long as the beliefs of others do not encroach upon my rights and freedoms I feel obligated to be tolerant of their beliefs. It a fine line that isn't always easy to tread. If you go back and read my posts on this and other threads you'll see that I am not always successful. I'm guilty of being insulting and sarcastic on many occasions. So I don't hold myself out as being better than anyone else here. Maybe I've managed to gain some semblance of wisdom over the years. The age old "cut-down" contest can be humorous and fun but you don't learn much useful information that way. Vegetarians/vegans are, in fact, increasing in numbers. They are still a small minority in the big picture but you are going to be living and working with them at some point. The biggest problem I have with them is the intolerance their extremists have for those who disagree and their use of terrorism to force their ideology upon others. Whale Wars, for instance, is nothing more than piracy being glorified. I strongly suspect that a berth in Davy Jones' Locker awaits the likes of Capt. Pauly. If we are to live together we must be tolerant of those who pursue their personal choices within the law and do not violate the rights and freedoms of those who choose differently. If people like HAC and I can discuss our diametrically opposed views in a civil manner and find some common ground, that's a good thing. None of us know what the future holds for the human race or have the answer to our social problems but I'm willing to bet that it won't be "either - or", it will be a combination of "all" views that holds the answer.
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“HUNTING RIGHTS ADVOCATE”
Since: Oct 08
Boggy Creek
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hunters are COWARDS wrote: <quoted text>Well, I will never agree with you about hunting, but it was nice to at least converse without so much anger and insults. You and Pete (peteo) have been the only hunters on topix that ever showed signs of decency (though you both were jerks more than a few times too ;) The other idiots here have crossed a line too many times and stooped to levels that were far beyond what a rational, decent person would ever stoop to, and I will never respect or converse seriously with any of them. I will keep fighting against all animal cruelty. As you know, I am in a minority right now, but we are growing every day. Just over 25 years ago I barely knew of the term 'vegan', I think I even mispronounced it as "vay-gun" initially. I was the only vegan I knew for quite some time, and now I see and hear the word and meet more vegans just about every day. We are more mainstream and it seems only the most ignorant (such as the disgusting trolls here on topix) that spend time condemning vegans/ARAs. In real life, the people I encounter are intrigued and inquisitive and I have lost count through the years of how many people I have inspired and guided to live a more compassionate, healthier life. This is not just a trend or a fad, I am witnessing a greater awareness and younger people are the greatest hope. I do believe in my lifetime I will see a more compassionate world, maybe not 100% as I would hope, but I do believe that the number of vegans is going to increase more in the next decade than ever before... I think you may be just a little harsh on my fellow hunters. I believe that, if given an opportunity, we're all capable of civil communication. This is a very heated topic and there have been many unnecessary, angry, and insulting comments flung around by members of both factions. You must admit that many of the ARA comments have been just as far below the belt as any comments made by hunters and meat eaters. It takes two to tango. You have made the effort to communicate with me in a civil manner and I have reciprocated.....that's a step in the right direction. I don't know how much the vegan population will grow in the near future but I do know that it will most likely increase. I don't have a problem with people choosing that path for themselves. I don't see it becoming a majority anytime soon but in time it could become a much more mainstream alternative. I recognize that. However I do have a problem with those who attempt to legislate that choice and/or use force via violence, threats, extortion etc. Those who attempt such things must understand that a "choice" made under duress is not a choice at all and the only thing accomplished is the creation of devout and determined enemies.
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Ozzie Guillen
Chicago, IL
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My dad had a butcher shop for years. In the window he proudly hung a sign that read "You might beat my prices , but you can't beat my meat".
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Since: Nov 10
Powellton WV
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hunters are COWARDS wrote: <quoted text>Nor are you accurate. I don't care what hunters "aim" to do, the FACT is that countless animals are wounded by hunters and left to suffer in agony for hours, days, weeks or and/or are left crippled for whatever time left they have. I know there are many 'hunter' who don't give a dam' and they even make 'snuff' videos of the maiming and suffering they cause animals as the hunters hoot, holler and laugh while the animal suffers before their eyes. Hunters are their own worst enemy and their snuff films are being seen everywhere---especially on youtube. Hunting does NOTHING but assure that there will will plenty more live 'targets' to maim, mutilate and murder year after year and year. It;s referred to as Compensatory Rebound Effect http://defendurbanwildlife.org/news/Compensat... You claim that hunting "makes the herds stronger and healthier"??? There is NOTHING sane , sensible or logical is mass murdering the healthiest, fittest strongest animals and THAT is what hunters strive to do. They don't kill the scrawny, weak, sickly deer like NATURAL predators do to keep herds in check, There is NOTHING rational or ethical in killing healthy animals. I don't care what propaganda and lies you have been fed by hunters or hunting organizations, it only takes simple common sense to realize that hunting is a sham. Hunting is a multi BILLION dollar industry and the number one concern is making money. Less than 7% of the U.S. are licensed hunters and those numbers are declining. The majority are learning the TRUTH behind the hunting sham and I will continue to help inform people. There is no reason to hunt and there is no reason to eat animal corpses. Humans do not need to eat animal corpses and there are millions of people who are living proof of this. Honey you just don't understand. When the herds get larger than the area they live in can support then the animals get sicker. And the weakness that leads to sickness spreads through the entire herd. Making the entire herd sick. Look at the disaster out west. They thought by eliminating the wolf population that the herds would be safer and larger......well they were larger and also sicker due to lack of food to feed the entire herds. They had to introduce the wolf back into the ecological system to obtain the right balance. Same goes here. The DNR monitors the herds then allows only so many of each animal to be taken that season. And as for the hunters..... No hunter aims to maim. They aim to kill and have pretty damn good aim. The only gain to wounding an animal is that the hunter has to track it down. You are not knowledgeable enough about the subject to understand it.
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Since: Nov 10
Powellton WV
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Squach wrote: <quoted text>I take the first legal deer that I have a shot at. I don't wait for the strongest or the fittest. Actually I prefer mature does. I don't hunt for trophies, I don't hunt predators, and I don't hunt for sport. I hunt for food. I only hunt what I eat, deer, rabbit, and some squirrel. That's far from every animal I can kill. You keep telling me that there are non-animal "options"......anoth er word for choices. I do not choose the same path as you. That doesn't make either one of us wrong, it makes us individuals with choices. I don't see anything wrong with either choice. If anything, my choice is shared by many, many more humans than yours is. Does that make your choice wrong? I don't think so. I only know it is not the choice for me. You still haven't addressed my question about other omnivorous primates making tools to hunt and eat other animals. Is that natural? They were not taught to do this by man. Yet that is exactly what man does. This is mainly the thought process in my family. You don't kill what you don't intend to eat. And you thank the animal for giving so that you could survive. Just an old Native tradition. And you never waste, never kill for sport, and never allow the animal to suffer.
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Since: Nov 10
Powellton WV
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And a quick addition...
I Do Not believe in harming domestic animals in any way. Horses and dogs are, and have always been, our greatest allies.
Without them we would have never climbed to the top of the food chain.
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Since: Jan 09
KEEP OUT
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arctic wrote: And a quick addition... I Do Not believe in harming domestic animals in any way. Horses and dogs are, and have always been, our greatest allies. Without them we would have never climbed to the top of the food chain. Yep..yep...yep...yep. I agree across the board.
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