Proposed bill would require solar energy system as standard option in new homes

Feb 15, 2013 Full story: KDBC 34

El Pasoans shopping for a new home could soon have options for using solar energy to power it.

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JWRssell USNR

El Paso, TX

#1 Feb 16, 2013
If this passes I hope it means that the replacement of city hall with the stadium brings this item into existence. The stadium needs to have solar energy. Force it down Hunt and Foster's program.
Pam Geldar

El Paso, TX

#2 Feb 17, 2013
JWRssell USNR wrote:
If this passes I hope it means that the replacement of city hall with the stadium brings this item into existence. The stadium needs to have solar energy. Force it down Hunt and Foster's program.
You, sir, are no gentleman nor a scholar. You're a loud-mouthed, overbearing nitwit who thinks anyone else gives a good GD about this stadium. You and your ilk voted for it now suck it up and pay for it.
JWRussell USNR

El Paso, TX

#3 Feb 17, 2013
Pam Geldar wrote:
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You, sir, are no gentleman nor a scholar. You're a loud-mouthed, overbearing nitwit who thinks anyone else gives a good GD about this stadium. You and your ilk voted for it now suck it up and pay for it.
Have no idea why you're so mad, but you know the mayor and city council except for 2 are pushing this. As it is a given, they should they not make it where it is somewhat energy efficient? I never voted for it and I had hoped the measure would have been held up in state and federal courts.
JWRussell USNR

El Paso, TX

#5 Feb 18, 2013
Donna wrote:
This is a really good thing I have been saying this for years but make it mandatory on al new construction
Not only on New Projects but on every building the City and County and State occupy or own.
Rhonda Wheeler

El Paso, TX

#6 Feb 18, 2013
JWRussell USNR wrote:
<quoted text>Not only on New Projects but on every building the City and County and State occupy or own.
I hate solar energy because it is inefficient. You must be one of these Solyndra backers. Why not invest your own money in them and leave me alone? You can't have the government mandating every GD thing about construction - that infringes on my liberty.
Rhonda Wheeler

El Paso, TX

#8 Feb 19, 2013
sindie wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure you know soooo much about solar energy....LOL.
You can kiss my bright, red rosy at the Galleria. The point is that the government must not force it's ideology on the citizenry, lest the body politic rise up. The issue is not about solar per se.
Rhonda Wheeler

El Paso, TX

#10 Feb 19, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Solar inefficient ! Wow you are so uninformed, I currently have 6,200.00 invested in solar heat water and electric in my 2600 square foot home and in 2012 my largest electric bill was $18.87 in 2011 with out solar my smallest electric bill was $123.09 if you know as much about construction as you do about solar i wouldn't even let you build a scratch post for my cat
So you spent over 6k and you saved around $100 per month. If your panels last for 6 years without need of repair, you'll merely break even and that's a big if. If those are the math skills you learned in school, I suppose it's evident that you were homeschooled by your dimwit parents.
IBig Money

El Monte, CA

#11 Feb 19, 2013
I think solar is a good idea, stop screwing our continent and our clean water. Its starting to look like the depleted europe eggheads.
Solarman

Twentynine Palms, CA

#12 Feb 19, 2013
Rhonda Wheeler wrote:
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So you spent over 6k and you saved around $100 per month. If your panels last for 6 years without need of repair, you'll merely break even and that's a big if. If those are the math skills you learned in school, I suppose it's evident that you were homeschooled by your dimwit parents.
Solar PV has an industry standard warranty that a panel will put out at least 80% of the power of a new panel after 20 to 25 years of usage. Solar Hot water design has improved over the last few decades. You can expect 20 years or more from a solar hot water system. One of the simplest designs I have seen is one on an old cabin. It was built using an old hot water heater tank. The tank was placed in an insulated box painted black on the inside. The top was covered with glass and sealed. It was mounted on the roof of the cabin pointing south. It has been on that roof for about 24-25 years now. There are some early adopters of solar PV that used ARCO solar panels built in the 1970's, they are still using them today. More than six years, I haven't run across a solar panel that lasts only six years. I installed some Motorola solar PV panels on a remote Domestic water reservoir in the 1980's, the panels are still there and are still working. THINK about what some have already said on this thread. They think public buildings should have solar PV or Hot water systems installed on their roofs. WHY? Our tax monies go towards the upkeep and maintenance of these public buildings. The city buildings like the Library, Police, Fire, Schools, Community center etc. take tax money away from the services they provide because even public entities have electric bills. Right now, you and everyone else is taxed, some of that tax money is sent to keep these public entities running. Part of that tax money is used to pay utilities. You get to pay your utilities every month and everybody gets to pay for the public building's utilities every month also. With enough solar PV, you could offset a great deal or all of the electric bills of these public entities for decades to come.
IBig Money

United States

#13 Feb 19, 2013
Solarman,
You dumb jackass we don't cut and paste here. Googling is for retards. If you don't have an arguement that you can stand on your two free with, STFU.
POS

Boskoop, Netherlands

#15 Feb 20, 2013
Joe wrote:
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Solar inefficient ! Wow you are so uninformed, I currently have 6,200.00 invested in solar heat water and electric in my 2600 square foot home and in 2012 my largest electric bill was $18.87 in 2011 with out solar my smallest electric bill was $123.09 if you know as much about construction as you do about solar i wouldn't even let you build a scratch post for my cat
What did you pay for this system, 10k, 15k? The savings is about $1,300 a year foor you. How long will these panels last, 5 years, 10 years? What is the cost to maintain these panels yearly? Just guessing, a 10 year life, you have saved nothing?
Rhonda Wheeler

El Paso, TX

#16 Feb 20, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text> Rhonda you need to grab a big mac and stay on the couch cause you know nothing about solar
And you know nothing about economics. If a company can only survive because of continual government subsidies, it's a net loss for all the taxpayers. Any money that you think you're saving is more than made up for by the government pumping money into solar, algae and wind.
Solarman

Twentynine Palms, CA

#17 Feb 20, 2013
IBig Money wrote:
Solarman,
You dumb jackass we don't cut and paste here. Googling is for retards. If you don't have an arguement that you can stand on your two free with, STFU.
Cut and paste WHAT A-Hole? Are you able to read and comprehend? Spoken like a true moron, that rents his living space, leases his transportation and barrows the rest. You make someone else's property tax, insurance and mortgage payments, have no equity in anything you rent or lease. YOU want to talk about cut and paste, look in the mirror jerkov. Now do you have ANY conscience comments about the subject of this story or has that eluded you also?
Big Money

El Paso, TX

#18 Feb 20, 2013
Solarman wrote:
<quoted text>Cut and paste WHAT A-Hole? Are you able to read and comprehend? Spoken like a true moron, that rents his living space, leases his transportation and barrows the rest. You make someone else's property tax, insurance and mortgage payments, have no equity in anything you rent or lease. YOU want to talk about cut and paste, look in the mirror jerkov. Now do you have ANY conscience comments about the subject of this story or has that eluded you also?
stop crying already crybaby, How much did your car depreciate the minute you drove it off the lot? STFU if you have no argument. Why did your momma take nine months to take a crap.
Big Money

El Paso, TX

#21 Feb 20, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text> my question to you is when is your break even period purchasing electricity? Never!!!
It's not a matter or breaking even only. You also have to consider the other expenses of solar, such as phone calls, mileage, insurance. Also, I never have to worry about my electricity going out at night when the sun goes down. Plus I have battery back up on all my important appliances, etc. I'm sticking with good, old-fashioned American electric. Ben Franklin invented it, you know.
Big Money

El Monte, CA

#23 Feb 20, 2013
Joe wrote:
<quoted text> my question to you is when is your break even period purchasing electricity? Never!!!
The first day dumb jackass, because no carbon footstep
JWRussell USNR

El Paso, TX

#25 Feb 20, 2013
Rhonda Wheeler wrote:
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I hate solar energy because it is inefficient. You must be one of these Solyndra backers. Why not invest your own money in them and leave me alone? You can't have the government mandating every GD thing about construction - that infringes on my liberty.
The I suggest Ms. Wheeler that you go out to the Colonia areas where there is no city permits, no city inspectors and no one telling you whether you can stock up on guns and explosives. The other option would be go to Idaho where the militias are rampant.

I would like to see all the solar and wind energy devices mandatory on all new businesses and homes. All the street lighting powered by solar or wind apparatuses where if one is knocked down the rest on the line do not go out. Of Course it would be contingent upon the city to make sure that all these areas and poles are camera monitored 24/7. You want everyone employed as much as possible and these items all can be a focus of employment. The there would be less and less of the poor to worry you wallet as they would be gainfully employed.
Rhonda Wheeler

El Paso, TX

#27 Feb 20, 2013
JWRussell USNR wrote:
<quoted text>The I suggest Ms. Wheeler that you go out to the Colonia areas where there is no city permits, no city inspectors and no one telling you whether you can stock up on guns and explosives. The other option would be go to Idaho where the militias are rampant.
I would like to see all the solar and wind energy devices mandatory on all new businesses and homes. All the street lighting powered by solar or wind apparatuses where if one is knocked down the rest on the line do not go out. Of Course it would be contingent upon the city to make sure that all these areas and poles are camera monitored 24/7. You want everyone employed as much as possible and these items all can be a focus of employment. The there would be less and less of the poor to worry you wallet as they would be gainfully employed.
Of course you want that because you, like our President, are a tyrant who wants to impose your will on the people. Liberty is more important that your wishes so stop imposing your ideas on others. Buy all the solar cells you want but legislating them is tyranny.
Solarman

Twentynine Palms, CA

#28 Feb 20, 2013
Big Money wrote:
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stop crying already crybaby, How much did your car depreciate the minute you drove it off the lot? STFU if you have no argument. Why did your momma take nine months to take a crap.
Yeah, right! Waaaaah,Waaaah, Waaaah call a wambulance. DO YOU have ANY experience with solar? Then post it or STFU Texas sized.
JWRussell USNR

El Paso, TX

#33 Feb 20, 2013
Solarman wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, right! Waaaaah,Waaaah, Waaaah call a wambulance. DO YOU have ANY experience with solar? Then post it or STFU Texas sized.
And some wimp from california is going to whip up on his butt?

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