Expert: We must act fast on warming

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

Couldn't really follow all that.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

Environmentalists champion all those issues you brought up from resource depletion, pollution, to over population. It is going to be difficult to formulate a plan that will conserve the earth's resources, solve pollution and slow population growth. To be effective these must become a worldwide effort.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

Therefore it is paramount that there is some kind of world organization to handle these problems. I would very much prefer it to be a democratic organization rather than some kind of oligarchy composed of bankers and corporations.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

The current anti-global warming movement is largely a movement to consolidate the grip that bankers and corporations have on us already.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

Environmentalism is not a left wing issue any more than climate science, it is a human issue.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

Cut through the smoke and mirrors and do not let vested interest politics prevail reality.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

Man is altering the environment, and that includes global warming by changing the composition of the atmosphere and landforms.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

We are spewing black carbon that is changing the albedo of both the atmosphere and land,(especially ice)by cutting forests, paving roads, mining practices, and building cities.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

The biosphere is active in maintaining the balance and we are dumping chemicals, transporting species and disease, polluting habitats, over harvesting and all without guidance.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

The prerequisite driving force is making money for the few and passing the cost to the many.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

As population grows, this becomes more and more of a problem.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

We must look ahead or we will perish as many civilizations have before us.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

GW is not a scare, it is a reality, however it appears that there is another.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

The Muslims taking over the world. Some folks need a boogie man to fight! Trouble is, they sometimes pick the wrong one.

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I Am DigitaP wrote:

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Ok then focus REAL HARD through your haze of sociopathologically driven deceipt and follow this:
EMAIL #1120593115:
"From: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
To: John Christy <john.christy@nsstc.uah.edu >
Subject: This and that
Date: Tue Jul 5 15:51:55 2005
John,
There has been some email traffic in the last few days to a week - quite
a bit really, only a small part about MSU. The main part has been one of
your House subcommittees wanting Mike Mann and others and IPCC
to respond on how they produced their reconstructions and how IPCC
produced their report.
In case you want to look at this see later in the email !
Also this load of rubbish !
This is from an Australian at BMRC (not Neville Nicholls). It began from the attached
article. What an idiot.
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The SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY WOULD COME DOWN ON ME IN NO
UNCERTAIN TERMS IF I SAID THE WORLD HAD COOLED FROM 1998.
OK IT HAS BUT IT IS ONLY 7 YEARS OF DATA AND IT ISN'T STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT.
**********
The Australian also alerted me to this blogging ! I think this is the term ! Luckily I don't live in Australia."
__________
"I can't really understand right now" is a CLASSIC SYMPTOM of
moonbat syndrome.
Note the PRECISE documentation of the many swings between arrogance of knowing more than you
then being BAFFLED by the SIMPLEST of statements
Keep this link handy as it defines the moonbat PERFECTLY.
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

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I Am DigitaP wrote:

From "description of a left-wing socialist moonbat"
" 1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
(you're too stupid to know all)
2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
3. Authoritarian
4. Secretive
5. Paranoid
6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
7. Conventional appearance
(the soldier/thug/enforcer)
http://t1.gstatic.com/images...
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gcA0ZuKGkI8/SsIFG7W...
(the masterminds)
http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/people/photo/Phi...
http://jennifermarohasy.com/blog/wp-content/u...
8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim's life
10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim's affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

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I Am DigitaP wrote:

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Ok then focus REAL HARD through your haze of sociopathologically driven deceipt and follow this:
EMAIL #1120593115:
"From: Phil Jones <p.jones@uea.ac.uk>
To: John Christy <john.christy@nsstc.uah.edu >
Subject: This and that
Date: Tue Jul 5 15:51:55 2005
John,
There has been some email traffic in the last few days to a week - quite
a bit really, only a small part about MSU. The main part has been one of
your House subcommittees wanting Mike Mann and others and IPCC
to respond on how they produced their reconstructions and how IPCC
produced their report.
In case you want to look at this see later in the email !
Also this load of rubbish !
This is from an Australian at BMRC (not Neville Nicholls). It began from the attached
article. What an idiot.
**********
The SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY WOULD COME DOWN ON ME IN NO
UNCERTAIN TERMS IF I SAID THE WORLD HAD COOLED FROM 1998.
OK IT HAS BUT IT IS ONLY 7 YEARS OF DATA AND IT ISN'T STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT.
**********
The Australian also alerted me to this blogging ! I think this is the term ! Luckily I don't live in Australia."
__________
"I can't really understand right now" is a CLASSIC SYMPTOM of
moonbat syndrome.
Note the PRECISE documentation of the many swings between arrogance of knowing more than you
then being BAFFLED by the SIMPLEST of statements
Keep this link handy as it defines the moonbat PERFECTLY.
http://www.mcafee.cc/Bin/sb.html

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Earthling wrote:

<quoted text>No surprise there. <quoted text>At least we can now forget AGW and concentrate on something worthwhile. <quoted text>You'll get what you're given. <quoted text>Try reversing that thought, it'll make more sense.<quoted text>You don't say?<quoted text>Some of the, "smoke and mirrors" has just been cut through.<quoted text>What else do you expect with nearly 7 billion humans on the planet?<quoted text>So why was 1934 warmer in the USA?<quoted text>Mankind has been groping his way in the dark since he appeared on this planet, do you expect things to change suddenly?<quoted text>There's a name for that, I think it's called free enterprise.<quoted text>Hmmm, I've seen world population more than treble in my lifetime, but the problem remains very similar.<quoted text>Breaking news, we will all perish eventually.<quoted text>You're right about it not being a scare to those of us who accept natural forces, but you must have read many posts from those who have ben scared by it.<quoted text>You've spent to much time looking at one ball and taken your eye off the rest.
Check out Muslim growth in Europe and the problems emanating from it, it's an eye opener.
The UK already has at least four Muslim MPs and Sweden is panicking about loss of control in Malmö, where there's a Muslim majority.

Jon24 wrote:

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HOW ABOUT THIS!
Trenberth, K. E., 2009: An imperative for climate change planning: tracking Earth's
global energy./Current Opinion in Environmental Sustainability/,*1*, 19-27,
doi:10.1016/j.cosust.2009.06.0 01.[PDF]
<[1]http://www.cgd.ucar.edu /cas/Trenberth/trenberth.paper s/EnergyDiagnostics09final.pdf >
(A PDF of the published version can be obtained from the author.)
The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a
travesty that we can't. The CERES data published in the August BAMS 09 supplement on
2008 shows there should be even more warming: but the data are surely wrong. Our
observing system is inadequate.
That said there is a LOT of nonsense about the PDO. People like CPC are tracking PDO on
a monthly basis but it is highly correlated with ENSO. Most of what they are seeing is
the change in ENSO not real PDO. It surely isn't decadal. The PDO is already reversing
with the switch to El Nino. The PDO index became positive in September for first time
since Sept 2007. see
[2]http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.go v/products/GODAS/ocean_briefin g_gif/global_ocean_monitorin
g_current.ppt

earlpittsamurican wrote:

Corporations are run by humans. You jail the humans, dummy.

I Am DigitaP wrote:

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It's a complete travesty is what it is.
I cut out the part about the PDO because the thrust of the Email sequence shows it STARTS with the admission: and NO ONE ARGUING
that it's RECORD setting cold:
then toward the bottom there's the suggestion a TV campaign be mounted to stop people from even TALKING about it: when FOUR years EARLIER Phil Jones HIMSELF was saying
"The SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY WOULD COME DOWN ON ME IN NO
UNCERTAIN TERMS IF I SAID THE WORLD HAD COOLED FROM 1998.
OK IT HAS BUT IT IS ONLY 7 YEARS OF DATA AND IT ISN'T STATISTICALLY SIGNIFICANT."
Suppressing all talk of ANY global influences except one thing: MANN Made Global Warming.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

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By cherry picking 1998 as the starting point, and since it was abnormally warm, the cooling trend is tainted. However, the political propaganda is huge in guiding a largely scientifically and mathematically illiterate public into a false conclusion. By far the biggest crime is the breaking and stealing by the hackers. I find no smoking gun in any of the illegally gained information.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

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How then can corporations be equal to a person? Do corporations have the same rights to free speech and due process of law as do individuals? Should they? I personally do not think they should. Get rid of the corporate lobbyists.

JRS wrote:

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NEWS FLASH!
Hackers obtain the Hair Growth Tonic Industry emails. The emails confess that the hair tonics are a fraud but they make money
News flash! Patriot AKA Bozo concludes "I find no smoking gun in any of the illegally gained information. "

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

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By cherry picking 1998 as the starting point, and since it was abnormally warm, the cooling trend is tainted. However, the political propaganda is huge in guiding a largely scientifically and mathematically illiterate public into a false conclusion. By far the biggest crime is the breaking and stealing by the hackers. I find no smoking gun in any of the illegally gained information.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

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By cherry picking 1998 as the starting point, and since it was abnormally warm, the cooling trend is tainted. However, the political propaganda is huge in guiding a largely scientifically and mathematically illiterate public into a false conclusion. By far the biggest crime is the breaking and stealing by the hackers. I find no smoking gun in any of the illegally gained information.

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

I find no smoking gun in any of the illegally gained information.

hilllbilly wrote:

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Yes, Americans allowed corps to have the same rights as citizens. Coprs have the same liberties as you and I.
Here is the true rub, would you rather have profit based corps as your master, or elitiests, guilt ridden, disfuntional ex hall monitors as your master?
I chose modern fuadalism over modern fascism. Plus, I have backed my decision with tradable and tactical tangibles and a very small farm instead of sod, for a back yard.(It always pays to hedge your bets.)
You seem to be thinking, but also seem a tad bit naive. Youth is a good thing, it means you still have a flexible mind. Google brown shirts - in regards to ACORN, and google coporate citizen in regards to the industrial war complex.
Above all, realize that almost every American voted for a president that either started the Patriot Act, or voted for the president that is keeping it. Some 'tards, called independants, did both. lol
Anyhoo, plant a garden, say 'hey' to a neieghbour, write a letter to you grandma and get out of dept,

Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:

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Thanks for the youthful mind thing! I choose democracy over feudalism or fascism. To maintain a democracy we need to get over the idea that corporations are super human. Our modern feudalism is apparent in the exploitation of the poor by the credit card corporations and the banks. That along with the selfish landlords makes poverty stricken folks slaves of the affluent. Who does the earth belong to? Just to those who have money and power? Or is it something that God has given to all humanity? Democracy is for equality and justice for all. It is not something that can be purchased by the few. I say run the money changers out of the temple of democracy.
Good advice, I raise a garden, have good neighbors and lost my grandmother about forty years ago when I was over thirty years old. I have no debts and a fairly secure retirement. I just moved from a fair sized farm to the city. I don't particularly care for the city but there is a time in everyone's life where practicality overshadows desire. This is the time when one reflects on life and begins to understand that money is simply a means to enjoy the rewards of life and not an end in itself. My advice to you is to look past the dollar and smell the roses.