U.S. to open up remaining Gulf oil leases

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carey529 wrote:

i'm SURE the upcoming election had ZERO to do with this...

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MarbleCityGlen wrote:

But he refuses to let a pipeline be built so the oil can get to the refinery - he is so political it is almost funny. He cares for no one except himself. Very selfish and self centered - is he really better than Bush or is the media so liberal and the people so gullible that they really don't see the facts

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carey529 wrote:

i'm SURE the upcoming election had ZERO to do with this...

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

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You gotta quit getting your talking points from GOP-Fox propaganda.
Considering that gas prices would rise, the minimal jobs that would be created, the steal probably would be coming from China the oil would flow to China, and the potential environmental damage the pipeline could cause, why in the hell would anyone support building it?
Researchers at the Cornell University Global Labor Institute...

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OneRyder wrote:

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so you think this pulls Repub voters over to Pres Obama side?
You probably think Pres. Obama getting Bin Laden was just political pandering right?
Face, Pres Obama is better at filling repub promises than repubs were.

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

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You gotta quit getting your talking points from GOP-Fox propaganda.
Considering that gas prices would rise, the minimal jobs that would be created, the steal probably would be coming from China the oil would flow to China, and the potential environmental damage the pipeline could cause, why in the hell would anyone support building it?
Researchers at the Cornell University Global Labor Institute, TransCanada, the proposed manufacturers of the pipeline, admitted that "KXL will increase the price of heavy crude oil in the Midwest by almost $2 to $4 billion annually." This will happen as a result of "diverting major volumes of Tar Sands oil now supplying the Midwest refineries, so it can be sold at higher prices to the Gulf Coast and export markets."
"The project will create no more than 2,500-4,650 temporary direct construction jobs for two years, according to TransCanada’s own data supplied to the State Department.
http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/globallaborinstitu...
President Obama has not refused to let the Keysotne Pipeline to be built. He simply refused to be buffaloed by the Reeich-wingers:
This is what the President Obama actually said:
“This announcement is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline, but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the American people…I’m disappointed that Republicans in Congress forced this decision, but it does not change my administration’s commitment to American-made energy that creates jobs and reduces our dependence on oil.” http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story...

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

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President Obama has not refused to let the Keysotne Pipeline to be built. He simply refused to be buffaloed by the Reeich-wingers:
This is what the President Obama actually said:
“This announcement is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline, but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the American people…I’m disappointed that Republicans in Congress forced this decision, but it does not change my administration’s commitment to American-made energy that creates jobs and reduces our dependence on oil.” http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story...

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carey529 wrote:

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gee, wonder where YOU get YOUR talking points?
baaaaah.

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Mothra wrote:

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Notice something here?
"...but it does not change my administration’s commitment to American-made energy that creates jobs and reduces our dependence on oil.”
Hmmm... that's a strange argument both for Keystone XL AND Gulf leases.
How will more oil production reduce dependence on oil?
Roy, you just shot a hole in your own argument -- using Obama's own words.
LOL

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

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Credible ones that refer me to credible websites like Cornell University Global Labor Institute, USA Today. etc.

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

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I ca;t figure out your illogical logic or illogical conclusion.
Creating a couple thousand temporary construction jobs and a couple hundred permanent job so Canada can export Canada's oil to China doesn't do a damn thing to reduce our dependence on American oil. Canada's oil IS foreign oil.

PlacitasRoy wrote:

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Credible ones that refer me to credible websites like Cornell University Global Labor Institute, USA Today. etc.
You gotta quit getting your talking points from GOP-Fox propaganda.
Considering that gas prices would rise, the minimal jobs that would be created, the steal probably would be coming from China the oil would flow to China, and the potential environmental damage the pipeline could cause, why in the hell would anyone support building it?
Researchers at the Cornell University Global Labor Institute, TransCanada, the proposed manufacturers of the pipeline, admitted that "KXL will increase the price of heavy crude oil in the Midwest by almost $2 to $4 billion annually." This will happen as a result of "diverting major volumes of Tar Sands oil now supplying the Midwest refineries, so it can be sold at higher prices to the Gulf Coast and export markets."
"The project will create no more than 2,500-4,650 temporary direct construction jobs for two years, according to TransCanada’s own data supplied to the State Department.
http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/globallaborinstitu ...
President Obama has not refused to let the Keysotne Pipeline to be built. He simply refused to be buffaloed by the Reeich-wingers:
This is what the President Obama actually said:
“This announcement is not a judgment on the merits of the pipeline, but the arbitrary nature of a deadline that prevented the State Department from gathering the information necessary to approve the project and protect the American people…I’m disappointed that Republicans in Congress forced this decision, but it does not change my administration’s commitment to American-made energy that creates jobs and reduces our dependence on oil.” http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/story ...

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Mothra wrote:

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First off, the Cornell study admits they couldn't get the data from the Transcanada study, so they just made up their own.
Viola! Proof!
Regardless, you refuted nothing. Breaking it down:
Obama>> American made energy>> jobs AND less oil.
Obama says nothing about the source of the oil, just less of it.