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LessHypeMoreFact

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Feb 10, 2012
 
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>Hard for me to tell. Better be cheaper, etc.
The UAO panels have a microinverter in each panel so they can be directly hooked up to the power grid. Good if you have a FIT agreement.

But they are about $2+ per watt due to the integrated inverter cost. Otoh, one should look at 'system' efficiency, not just converter efficiency.

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LessHypeMoreFact wrote:
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The UAO panels have a microinverter in each panel so they can be directly hooked up to the power grid. Good if you have a FIT agreement.
But they are about $2+ per watt due to the integrated inverter cost. Otoh, one should look at 'system' efficiency, not just converter efficiency.
I think you meant to say AUO panels.
http://auosolar.com

On a small system the 2 dollar per watt price is great as it includes the inverter.
After about a 10kw system it is cheaper to go with a standard DC panel and a quality inverter like SMA or outback

But in the second system if the inverter fails your whole system is down

With the AUO system if one inverter fails the rest of the panels will still be feeding the grid.

Also the AUO system has a monitoring system that looks at each individual panel and can alert you to problems before they happen.

And probably the best benefit of the AUO micro inverter system is that it resolves the problems with shading.

In a traditional system partial shading of a solar array can cause lots of problems and shorten the life of the system

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LessFactMoreHype wrote:
The UAO panels have a microinverter in each panel
No, they don't.
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How about explaining your theory of CO2 as a thermal pollutant, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?

Tell everyone what a 'thermal pollutant' is?
LessHypeMoreFact

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NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, alias:
No, they don't.
http://www.solarpanelsonline.org/AUO-Solar-s/...
Yet the facts are that they do. Try reading for a change.
Earthling-1 wrote:
How about explaining your theory of CO2 as a thermal pollutant, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
Try reading either the science journals or even these threads. They are all about 'thermal pollution' of the planet by GHGs. If you cannot understand that yet, see a doctor about your growing senility.
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Tell everyone what a 'thermal pollutant' is?
Both the noun and adjective are well defined. Try reading a dictionary.
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LessFactMoreHype is a MOLE FOR THOSE ECO TERROIST PENGIUNS. WATCH IT FOLKS. BEWARE OF ANY ICE CUBE FOUND ON YOUR DOORSTEP. HE BE A SLIPPERY ONE.
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Feb 10, 2012
 
TERRORIST >>>so sorry FOLKS.

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NobodyYouEverWantToKnow, alias:
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
Try reading either the science journals or even these threads.
'Thermal pollutant' doesn't feature in any science journal and in these threads, only mentioned by you, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
NoFactAllHype wrote:
They are all about 'thermal pollution' of the planet by GHGs.
GHGs do not cause thermal pollution, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
NoFactAllHype wrote:
If you cannot understand that yet, see a doctor about your growing senility.
I suggest you take your own advice, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty.
NoFactAllHype wrote:
Both the noun and adjective are well defined.
Where, in a school in 60s Ontario?
NoFactAllHype wrote:
Try reading a dictionary.
Oh, do you mean one of those books copiled by an epistemologist, Mr Undoubtably Spelt Fourty?
NobodyYouWantToKnow wrote:
You claim to be all knowing about epistemology of all words, yet you get this so wrong.
MOST of the world uses the spelling that I do.
http://www.topix.com/forum/med/infectious-dis...
LessFactMoreHype wrote:
It was not a 'mistake'. It was a fact. Even when the first dictionary was being compiled the epistimologist had to choose between many spellings.
http://www.topix.com/forum/news/global-warmin...
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tina anne wrote:
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And I could win Ms America, but the reality is that solar still has the exact same drawbacks. A cloudy day can cut that energy production in half and a rainy day could leave you in the dark.
How about coming up with something that isn't at the mercy of the weather.
Still singing that same old song......and proving you know nothing about solar. Give it a rest.
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With the alarmist camp demanding an end to fossil fuel use, isn't it way past time that solar panels were as good as perfect?
We can't march toward a bright new future in the dark, can we?
Hanging around tina too long ?? Your beginning to sound a lot like her/it.....whatever.
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Solarman wrote:
"While the technological pathway to a low-carbon society is clear -- more solar panels, more windmills, more battery-powered cars, more trolleys and trains and so forth -- the costs of massive conversion will be hefty."

The cost of doing nothing is hefty also, ask good ol' Jerry Brown why in his first term at the helm, he killed the Sun Desert nuclear facility in lieu of "energy efficient appliances". Energy efficient appliances never will be a baseload generation source.

"California's average retail electric rate of 13.24 cents per kilowatt-hour is already the ninth highest in the California's average retail electric rate of 13.24 cents per kilowatt-hour is already the ninth highest in the nation, 50 percent above average. And when those "renewable portfolios" come online, power bills will ratchet rapidly upward.

Yeah great, this "group" throws out numbers like 6 billion plus, but what does it mean with reference to all the ratepayers in California and how much does it affect the already 13.24 cents per KWh being paid in the State now? This is what the million solar roofs project is supposed to address. Home owners and business owners putting solar PV on their roofs and using the power where it is needed and generated during peak use hours. No EIRs, land lease agreements, environmental damage or new power corridors need to be built. Jerry needs to put his prayer in his "left" hand and crap in the right, to see which one fills up first.

Read more: http://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/opinion/...
Going to charge those cars with what?natural gas!

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John wrote:
Your beginning to sound a lot like her.
You're beginning to punctuate like her, without her good excuse.

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John wrote:
<quoted text>Still singing that same old song......and proving you know nothing about solar. Give it a rest.
And yet still know far more than you. Why not give it a rest yourself. Or start posting some real facts instead of begging for others to stop poosting them.

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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>You're beginning to punctuate like her, without her good excuse.
Hey, my puntuation is starting to improve, to evolve. John remains as static as when he first posted.
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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>You're beginning to punctuate like her, without her good excuse.
While your sounding as LAME as she is...
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tina anne wrote:
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And yet still know far more than you. Why not give it a rest yourself. Or start posting some real facts instead of begging for others to stop poosting them.
If a bumble bee had your brains he would fly backwards. Your "facts" are just relabeled opinion from someone who really knows nothing of which they speak. "poosting" LOL.....go back to school.

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John wrote:
While your sounding as LAME as she is...
My sounding?
Did you mean to write you're, as in you are?
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Look, if you're going to run someone down because of their bad grammar, at least try to be better than them.
Oh, and you might care to take into consideration that tina anne has admitted to being dyslexic, are you?
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Earthling-1 wrote:
<quoted text>My sounding?
Did you mean to write you're, as in you are?
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Look, if you're going to run someone down because of their bad grammar, at least try to be better than them.
Oh, and you might care to take into consideration that tina anne has admitted to being dyslexic, are you?
Frustrated English teacher ?? Is that all you have to contribute ?? Grammar police.....pathetic at best.
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Tina is not only dyslexic she is outright dense. You seem to have the same affliction.

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#229
Feb 17, 2012
 
This is why Solyndra failed and the vast majority of US based solar companies will also fail

For Explosive Growth in Solar Energy Industry, Prices Must Come Down

www.environmentalleader.com/2012/02/15/for-ex...
LessHypeMoreFact

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Feb 17, 2012
 
John wrote:
<quoted text>Frustrated English teacher ?? Is that all you have to contribute ?? Grammar police.....pathetic at best.
I think that he is some rich kid, lacking useful skills, that is focussed entirley on school boy 'putdowns' and 'one upmanship'. Really, he never grew up or had to..

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