Dorothy Bond, Tennessee High School Principal, Made Homophobic Remarks During Meeting With Students

Mona Lott wrote:

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You take EVERTHING so literally!
Or are you a nit-picker? Now I'm going to give you a little taste of your own medicine: YOU KNOW DAMN WELL that the phrase "seperation of church and State" is often used in place of our 1st Amendment guarantees. Do you insist that people recite the first amendment everytime they speak about what "seperation of church and State" means? You know what it means... and it comes through the 1st Amendment.
The phrase was quoted by the United States Supreme Court first in 1878, and then in a series of cases starting in 1947. The phrase "separation of church and state" itself does not appear in the United States Constitution. The First Amendment states that "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." The Supreme Court did not consider the question of how this applied to the states until 1947; when they did, in Everson v. Board of Education, all nine justices agreed that there was a wall of separation between church and state.
And in case you have forgotten your high school civics, SCOTUS has the last word.... unless you wish to push for a Constitutional Amendment to ban seperation of church and State. Frankly, you don't have the votes.

When somebody says that separation of Church and state is not found in the Constitution, they certainly are not lying as separation of church and state came from a Jeffersonian writing. But I agree that the general concept is there. It means that the government and the Church are separate entities and that the governmental powers were to rest in the government and not the church. After what I remembered about some of the horror stories in Europe from religious genocide (i.e. the Huguenot Massacre and the Spanish Inquisition), I can't say I blame out founding fathers for trying to keep the two separate.

Mona Lott wrote:

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Not a grudge
Not a professional
Not a diagnosis
Get checked for Alzheimers.

Your diagnosis is mean spirited sewer sludge.

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>Your diagnosis is mean spirited sewer sludge.

No dear. You seem to have a less than firm grasp on reality.

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>When somebody says that separation of Church and state is not found in the Constitution, they certainly are not lying as separation of church and state came from a Jeffersonian writing. But I agree that the general concept is there. It means that the government and the Church are separate entities and that the governmental powers were to rest in the government and not the church. After what I remembered about some of the horror stories in Europe from religious genocide (i.e. the Huguenot Massacre and the Spanish Inquisition), I can't say I blame out founding fathers for trying to keep the two separate.

Look. If people wish to be correctly understood, then it is THEIR responsibility to be clear. I would completely agree with this statement: The exact words "separation of church and state" are not found in the Constitution.
I completely DISGREE agree with this statement: Separation of church and state is not in the Constitution.

Mona Lott wrote:

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No dear. You seem to have a less than firm grasp on reality.

It seems like others besides me have said the same thing about you. Your quips are nothing more than futile juvenile attempts to be insulting.

Disgree...... hahahahahahahah

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>Where did I say the principle was not implied? I certainly agreed that the concept was implied in AmendmentI. If you had just read what I said in full and accepted it at face value, the post I am now responding to would have been totally unnecessary.

So, what PRINCIPLES were invoked on both sides in Loving v. VA ?

lol

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>It seems like others besides me have said the same thing about you. Your quips are nothing more than futile juvenile attempts to be insulting.

Do you have another explanation (besides Alzheimers) for your repeated forgetfulness and hyperbole?

Mona Lott wrote:

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Do you have another explanation (besides Alzheimers) for your repeated forgetfulness and hyperbole?

You seem to have forgotten how to spell separate and couldn't read a Google map right and regularly engage in hyperbole yourself with your gross exaggerations of my mental state. You said in a past post you had two psychology degrees. How then is it that you are not a professional in that field? If you are not a professional, you should not make diagnoses without a license.

snyper wrote:

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So, what PRINCIPLES were invoked on both sides in Loving v. VA ?
lol

What does that have to do with anything being discussed here? We are far enough off topic as it is.

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text> You seem to have forgotten how to spell separate and couldn't read a Google map right and regularly engage in hyperbole yourself with your gross exaggerations of my mental state. You said in a past post you had two psychology degrees. How then is it that you are not a professional in that field? If you are not a professional, you should not make diagnoses without a license.

Ok..... <shakes head>

Why do I need to explain my career choices to you? Are my degrees null/void because I don't work in the field YOU think I should be in? Which job "should" I be in? Don't you think a working knowledge of psychological concepts would prove valuable in many lines of work?

Calling you a narcissist is HARDLY a "diagnosis without a license." Think of it as a one word description.

Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an "awkward" or "difficult" person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all.

Mona Lott wrote:

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Ok..... <shakes head>
Why do I need to explain my career choices to you? Are my degrees null/void because I don't work in the field YOU think I should be in? Which job "should" I be in? Don't you think a working knowledge of psychological concepts would prove valuable in many lines of work?
Calling you a narcissist is HARDLY a "diagnosis without a license." Think of it as a one word description.
Shamelessness: Shame is the feeling that lurks beneath all unhealthy narcissism, and the inability to process shame in healthy ways.
Magical thinking: Narcissists see themselves as perfect, using distortion and illusion known as magical thinking. They also use projection to dump shame onto others.
Entitlement: Narcissists hold unreasonable expectations of particularly favorable treatment and automatic compliance because they consider themselves special. Failure to comply is considered an attack on their superiority, and the perpetrator is considered an "awkward" or "difficult" person. Defiance of their will is a narcissistic injury that can trigger narcissistic rage.
Bad boundaries: Narcissists do not recognize that they have boundaries and that others are separate and are not extensions of themselves. Others either exist to meet their needs or may as well not exist at all.

Sounds like a perfect self description on your part. LOL

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>Sounds like a perfect self description on your part. LOL

Thanks for the confirmation....... wow, are you stupid or what?

Mona Lott wrote:

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Thanks for the confirmation....... wow, are you stupid or what?

I will gladly confirm your description of yourself anytime as you did in post #550. You deliberately misquoted me again.

flbadcatowner wrote:

<quoted text>I will gladly confirm your description of yourself anytime as you did in post #550. You deliberately misquoted me again.

Huh? I deliberately misquoted you? WTF..........

nhjeff wrote:

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I'm planning to take a laugh bag, myself. The most important lesson that I've learned from Jon Stewart, Steven Colbert, and Rachel Maddow is how to laugh at all the crackpots.
Of course, my own stress is partly relieved by the knowledge that my husband is likely to receive Canadian citizenship soon. And we don't live that far from the border.

Never lose sight that the crackpots vote at close to 100%.

I only wish "we" did the same.

"my own stress is partly relieved by the knowledge that my husband is likely to receive Canadian citizenship soon"

Try being Cuban American in a place wall to wall with banana republic, zero political standards, ethnic voting Miami hypocrite KKKubans.
Now that is stress.

What does any of this have to do with the topic that started this thread???? Bunch of idiots need to start your own websight!!!!

I totally agree, these idiots are babbling about nothing.....get the hell off of here!

Haywood Concerned wrote:

What does any of this have to do with the topic that started this thread???? Bunch of idiots need to start your own websight!!!!

Despicable lies. Homosexuality is NOT a "mental disease," it's been PROVEN it is NOT.

MEN SHOULD MARRY WOMEN AND WOMEN SHOULD MARRY MEN; THATS'S THE WAY IT HAS EVOLVED OVER MILLIONS OF YEARS.

ONLY IN A SOCIAL DECLINE THROUGHOUT THE AGES HAS HOMOSEXUALITY BEEN "NORMAL" AND WITH THE RENEWAL OF SOCIETIES IT THEN AGAIN BECOMES WHAT IT SHOULD BE CLASSIFIED AS, A BEHAVIOR DISEASE.

DENG wrote:

you're going to hell and if you're pregnant, your life is over
WHAT IS SAID IS TRUE: VALID: A HOMOSEXUAL, A MENTAL DISEASE.
GET PREGNANT AT AN EARLY AGE: NOT GOOD. GET PREGNANT WITHOUT BEING MARRIED, ANTISOCIAL AND NOT GOOD FOR A HIGH CALIBER SOCIAL SOCIETY.

local school principal stands accused of making blatantly homophobic statements toward her students.

As ABC 24 is reporting, students at Haywood High School in Brownsville claim Principal Dorothy Bond made insensitive remarks about both homosexuality and teen pregnancy during a meeting. "At first she was talking about PDA and she turned around and she directly pointed to the gay people and said if you're gay, you're going to hell and if you're pregnant, your life is over," student Amber Whittiemore is quoted as saying.

Despicable lies. Homosexuality is NOT a "mental disease," it's been PROVEN it is NOT.

And it's the vilest of lies to claim one's "life is over" if they get pregnant at a young age, it makes things more difficult, especially when those who SHOULD be helping them are instead idiots like this principal.

If you think your kind of bigotry is needed for a "high caliber society" then God save us from a high caliber society.
We need a society that cares about other people, not one that looks down at those we don't view as "high caliber."

OkieDarren wrote:

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Despicable lies. Homosexuality is NOT a "mental disease," it's been PROVEN it is NOT.
And it's the vilest of lies to claim one's "life is over" if they get pregnant at a young age, it makes things more difficult, especially when those who SHOULD be helping them are instead idiots like this principal.
If you think your kind of bigotry is needed for a "high caliber society" then God save us from a high caliber society.
We need a society that cares about other people, not one that looks down at those we don't view as "high caliber."