Katie Mellish

UK

#242 Jan 24, 2013
A lot of men these days shave their pubic hair i know that for a fact-oh what a fallen angel iam.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#243 Jan 24, 2013
How so Katie- surely this knowledge has been acquired in a very innocent manner ?? You would never be a fallen angel !
MaltaMon

Sewell, NJ

#244 Jan 24, 2013
Katie Mellish wrote:
A lot of men these days shave their pubic hair i know that for a fact-oh what a fallen angel iam.
Straight men are doing that? Must be the younger generation, or perhaps on your side of the ocean. I can't imagine women like that... although women have been shaving for years. Fallen ange You? Nah!
Katie Mellish

UK

#245 Jan 25, 2013
MaltaMon wrote:
<quoted text> Straight men are doing that? Must be the younger generation, or perhaps on your side of the ocean. I can't imagine women like that... although women have been shaving for years. Fallen ange You? Nah!
To MM hello i remember telling coyote about this club we started at HMP Manchester(Strangeways) called the shaven haven club.To join this work place club you had to shave your pubic hair and keep it shaved.The shaven haven club still exists but only now has 12 members.....it only started as a bit of work place fun but it has lasted 8 years.The shaven haven club has 7 male members.MM you will be surprised how many of us girls like a clean shaven man.Katie xx.
Katie Mellish

UK

#246 Jan 25, 2013
coyote wrote:
How so Katie- surely this knowledge has been acquired in a very innocent manner ?? You would never be a fallen angel !
Iam sure you are right Coyote.Katie xxxxxx.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#247 Jan 25, 2013
yes- thanx- Katie: you know we have to tread carefully on such subjects around Sir Art or before we know it he will find cause to be at HMP and you@I know he will want to be in the club ; also, who he will expect to do the barbering !! Trouble is it takes so long for him to rejoin our group when he gets put away..... you sound fit as a fiddle- we have had 4 cm of snow this winter but very cold. One result is my cousin coyoyes have difficult time catching the wild prey and make due with domestic pups and cats. Any port in a storm I guess.. makes for hard feelings against my cousins tho. Have an interesting WW11 story to share with you which came to my attention via a recent g-mail from S Africa and a long forgotten member of my mom's family.... take care
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#248 Jan 25, 2013
Bob wrote:
Let's talk about how boys in junior high school used to swim naked in front of girls.It was a different time and people were ok with it.The boys enjoyed it to.It was common for the girls to be invited into the swimming pool to watch the boys practicing naked.That's the way it should be.Boys and girls should swim together but boys should be naked while girls must always wear swimsuits.Its the natural order of thing.I have a boner just thinking about it.
wow-yet another CFNM fetish monger.Been away out of country-but back-probably much to 40somethings dismay.
Buj the way, nude swimming back then simply did not happen. I grew up then, where it supposedly happened. Yea the YMCA did have that from what I have read, but females were never allowed in the building let alone in the area. All the vids and pics I have seen are from nudest colonies. Tired old wives tales-sheese.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#249 Jan 25, 2013
Katie Woodhill wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Coyote, I meant to address this point previously with you, so thanks for reminding me to do so. Regards my associate who I mentioned, I have got no idea and never even thought to ask actually, although I personally guess that a female nurse would be present or nearby as a matter of course, as protection for both the person being examined and also the person doing the examining from malicious accusations or mis-interpretations of what is being done.
I'd like to ask you a psychological issue regards what I have previously mentioned with nudity and controlling. Do you feel you yourself would become more easily controllable and pliable to do as you were told if your clothing and thereby dignity were removed? For myself in my own schooldays my over riding emotion was to be highly indignant.
By the way, having read your post on the other thread about "clothing optional" places, has the word nudist become a dirty word nowadays then?
By the way, I actually do not agree at all with the title of this thread as a point of view or a question. In the UK I do not think female nursing staff drive any men from treatment. Other reasons maybe, but not that. Likewise if I was in my friends skin position, I'd grin and bear it for the greater good of my own health, and life.
Thanks.
A passing thought Katy,
It is not the issue if your comfortable with opposite gender care-some are some are not.
The issue is there is in fact a double standard on how males are treated with regard to their modesty.
It is tiring to hear and read how:
1-Males are not that modest
2-We have seen it all before
I can go on and on.
It starts early in life also. The almost total disregard for male modesty concerns or privacy.
It is such a simple solution, treat them how you would be treated, allow options-don't just assume because your in the medical profession you have the right to anyone unclothed because your a professional.
It is so easy to be dismissive of someone modesty when your the clothed one in the room.
Could not resit commenting, have a nice weekend.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#250 Jan 25, 2013
Rick wrote:
Why on earth would a man want to be examined by a male nurse! Give me females anytime. They are much more concerned and listen better than any male nurse or Doc for that matter.
A matter of opinion
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#251 Jan 25, 2013
Katie Woodhill wrote:
<quoted text>
Hello Coyote, I tend to steer clear on this one but just thought I'd mention another TV show from Britain that has a relevance to what you are talking about here.
The Channel 4 show "Embarrassing Bodies" presented by 3 doctors, one male and two females. It has had a number of series now, and repeats a lot of the same stuff now and again. But what has struck me on this show is that much of the time the men who appear, and have down below problems, get seen to have their genitals examined by the 2 women on this programme. It happens every week. Extraordinary really. About the only thing I've seen the male doctor do, and it's happened every series, is visit some rugby club and get the boys checking their balls for lumps openly together. The doctor is Christian Jessen and is getting a bit of a celeb over here. He did another show where he went to the States to show people from this country what we will become if we keep getting fatter. There were some repulsively fat people and vulgar sized portions over there.
But the Embarrassing Bodies show always amuses me, especially when men and women are showing intimate areas. Yes, it's so embarrassing that not only do they, and in the case of this thread, the men, strip off and show female docs their genitals, but they do it on TV too. A conundrum there I feel!
All verifiable for any sceptics.
Interesting isn't it?
Dam glad that sort of trash is not available here in the states!
I have friends in Germany and England in the service who simply do not have TV because of the filth and nudity and do not want their family's exposed to such.
Personally, I think things have sunk to a new low across the pond.
I don't think you can equate television with real world experience or draw any conclusions about how the real general public,m or males really thinks.
It's like watching porn. Porn would have you think all males are endowed and females will do anything of a sexual nature. It has no real basis in reality.
Largelanguage

Rhyl, UK

#252 Jan 25, 2013
CaDad wrote:
<quoted text>
Interesting isn't it?
Dam glad that sort of trash is not available here in the states!
I have friends in Germany and England in the service who simply do not have TV because of the filth and nudity and do not want their family's exposed to such.
Personally, I think things have sunk to a new low across the pond.
I don't think you can equate television with real world experience or draw any conclusions about how the real general public,m or males really thinks.
It's like watching porn. Porn would have you think all males are endowed and females will do anything of a sexual nature. It has no real basis in reality.
Feminists want sexual dominance. Sex is wrong in your book?
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#253 Jan 25, 2013
oh heck no, very active in that department, and I don't see the connection to your response.
I don't equate sex with porn or what you show on your telly, what I observe is human debasement. just my humble opinion.
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#254 Jan 25, 2013
my my,it's Bobby. I shall refrain from the name calling because Coyote seems to think it debases me.
Have a good life Bobby, not going to respond to you anymore.
I think there was a quote from someone, NERO? " Let them rant so others will see how mad they are"
That's as close as I can come to it.
You actually do not add anything worth comenting on Bobby.
Largelanguage

Rhyl, UK

#255 Jan 25, 2013
CaDad wrote:
oh heck no, very active in that department, and I don't see the connection to your response.
I don't equate sex with porn or what you show on your telly, what I observe is human debasement. just my humble opinion.
It was a passing comment. Why is it debasing when it isn't even actually real?
CaDad

Rocklin, CA

#256 Jan 25, 2013
I think you can draw your own conclusions.
But I do understand things are different across the pond, I stand by my observations and those of our friends that have lived there and are currently living there.
coyote

Halifax, Canada

#257 Jan 25, 2013
gonna butt in-- nice to see your posts CaDad. My response to Largelanguage question "why is it debasing when it isn't even real?" I feel a portrayal of debasement is certainly not much (if any) below the actual and to explain- that is why I find it sick for this mm character to take an instance of abuse (which likely never happened) and immediately blame this bob fellow who happens to be a bit of devil's advocate and rag about it on and on and on. Would anyone with a bit of an "in your face" spirit sit back and just accept it. Do not think so and bob's responses may be foolish but not near of the foolish scenario MM posted and looks for people like you to naively join him ?? He is not a CaDad !!
CaDAd

Rocklin, CA

#258 Jan 25, 2013
Hey Coyote, hope all has been well with you also.
I have noted reveal discussions have been deleted, well and good. I objected strongly about their existence.
Katie Mellish

UK

#259 Jan 25, 2013
coyote wrote:
yes- thanx- Katie: you know we have to tread carefully on such subjects around Sir Art or before we know it he will find cause to be at HMP and you@I know he will want to be in the club ; also, who he will expect to do the barbering !! Trouble is it takes so long for him to rejoin our group when he gets put away..... you sound fit as a fiddle- we have had 4 cm of snow this winter but very cold. One result is my cousin coyoyes have difficult time catching the wild prey and make due with domestic pups and cats. Any port in a storm I guess.. makes for hard feelings against my cousins tho. Have an interesting WW11 story to share with you which came to my attention via a recent g-mail from S Africa and a long forgotten member of my mom's family.... take care
To Coyote hello well i said i will cll around to night so how are you keeping.Coyote i think Sir Arthur likes being surrounded by uniformed women erm if he ends up where i'work' he may have to take a shower in front of one or two of them.Coyote we have had 2 ft of snow around here and it is snowing tonight about 4"has fallen already.It is cold around here in rural Middleton it is minus 20 tonight and it will get colder than that as winter goes on.I look forward to the WWII storey iam very interested in what you have to tell me.Coyote tell the other coyotes to takecare-Katie xxxxxx.
Katie Mellish

UK

#260 Jan 25, 2013
CaDAd wrote:
Hey Coyote, hope all has been well with you also.
I have noted reveal discussions have been deleted, well and good. I objected strongly about their existence.
Hello CADad there was nothing wrong with there existence it was the trolls and paedo-homo erotics that they were attracting.If you remember us decent posters put our view forward and we had a good debate but the decent posters were swamped by paedos and perverts.We had a good laugh though at times with what some of the trolls said there were some right howlers.Well CADad its nice to see you again-Katie.
Katie Mellish

UK

#261 Jan 25, 2013
CaDad wrote:
<quoted text>
A passing thought Katy,
It is not the issue if your comfortable with opposite gender care-some are some are not.
The issue is there is in fact a double standard on how males are treated with regard to their modesty.
It is tiring to hear and read how:
1-Males are not that modest
2-We have seen it all before
I can go on and on.
It starts early in life also. The almost total disregard for male modesty concerns or privacy.
It is such a simple solution, treat them how you would be treated, allow options-don't just assume because your in the medical profession you have the right to anyone unclothed because your a professional.
It is so easy to be dismissive of someone modesty when your the clothed one in the room.
Could not resit commenting, have a nice weekend.
Nice post CADad and nice to have you back.

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