Judge it!
I was 12 and swam at the YMCA (naked) An older boy about 16 became my "big brother" He not only taught me how to swim, but he taught be the joys of sex.(gay) Since he lived down the block from me, I would stay late and help him clean up the locker room. We always stayed naked. Mom thought the boy was very nice to keep an eye on me.
One day while cleaning the locker he "found" some porn in a locker.(straight and gay) He made me promise not to tell any one. I promised. I sat in his lap naked and we looked at the pictures. He and I both got hard looking at all the gay porm. Neither one of us bothered with the straight stuff. There were preteen boys younger than me and boys into their late teens. I pissed all over my self and him when we saw a boy that looked like him.
It was his picture, along with his older and younger cousins sucking and fucking. It was great. His uncle had submitted the pictures and they were published. Back then I guess it was legal.
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I don't know if we should be bringing up stuff like this or not but so many people don't believe that boys would ever have swam naked anywhere, no doubt they won't believe the stuff that used to be on the newsstands.
But first, you know that pornorgraphy is mostly in the eye of the beholder. The subject need not be naked, in a sexy pose or anything. It just has to turn them on. Some stuff used to be passed off as "art" or "body building poses" and stuff like that and it was on the newsstands some places. It wasn't explicit, to be sure, but for some people, it was pornorgraphic. That's all still true today for precisely the same sort of stuff, even though there's now "real" pornography available, though not necessarily at the local newwsstand. I've never heard of magazines that published photos like described, from the readers, but during the twilight of the classic nudist magazine era, in the early 70s, there were a few "nudist" magazines that specialized mostly in photos of kids, with names like "Nudist Moppets" and so on. A very curious thing indeed. The photos were just photos of real children in real nudist environments, not precisely pornographic but they were photos of nude children. A few books with similiar subjects were published around the same time. I wouldn't call it gay at all and I never saw anything that amounted to gay porno with kids but I doubt that would have ever been legal. This isn't to say illegal things have never been published. And by the way, I never saw anything published that had photos of boys swimming nude (or otherwise) at the YMCA or in a school pool. |
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When I was living in London in the 70's I remember those Naturist magazines of nude boys and girls, mostly preteen and teens, in the pornshops. The less expensive ones, though just as explicit, were openly sold at newstands and even sweet shops which also sold newspapers and family magazines. They were not porno but just nudist though with full frontal nudity. I think the young nude scare and prohibition is very recent.
But as you say I never saw a photo of nude school swims or YMCA, even though many of these magazines were American. Probably photography was forbidden in these places, though I have no doubt that some would have been taken but kept privately. |
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There was a long struggle to be able to publish fully nude photos of adults, you may recall, although having them on the newsstands was another matter. Most of the work was done by just a few early nudist enthusiasts who also happen to be in the publishing business in a small way. If you see enough of the old magazines, you can see the changes over time about what they published. Some, but not all, of the older magazines were airbrushed to hide genitals. Then, when it was finally decided it was legal to publish such things, sometime in the late '60s, there was a flood of such things, virtually all of which were photos taken in legitimate nudist clubs, although I have no idea who the publishers were. They were explicit in that they showed full nudity of all ages but no sex. Over the years magazines calling themselves "nudist" or "naturist" were a mixed bag but all of the old ones like "Journal of the ASA" are mostly history now and quaint at that, which is a pity in a way.
I suspect that school swimming classes done nude and swimming at the YMCA were outside of the interests of the publishers, even though such photos had actually been published a coupld of decades earlier in mass circulation magazines like Life. A curious twist on the way things evolve, I would have to say. The new publications in the late 70s, early 80s, that grew out of the so-called free beach movement were entirely different in that the philosophy of the movement was different. There were lots of photos nevertheless in those publications, which evolved into "Clothed with the Sun" into whatever it is today, as well as the glossy nudist travel magazines that I used to sometimes see at Borders. All a far cry from what nudism was in the 1950s. But everything else is different, too, now isn't it? It goes without saying that nude photos, not just nude photos of younger people, has always been controversial and still is, since there are still such things produced and sold as an art form. But it's easier to buy a gun than a photo of a nude teenager in this country (I assume). |
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at school we(males) swam naked by policy-- girls did not and although separate class times we were teased by girls telling us of being able to peek ! oh well! Textile females our own age who were certified swim instructors were common to our classes and we knew there was no getting out of it so WTF. To retaliate we could easily have "peeked" into female showers but knew it was wrong so did not do it. I recall being in Dominican Rep. when a couple of mothers made there 3 approx. 8 year old daughters strip naked to take care of 5-6 younger textile boys in the kids' play area and the initial embarassement for the girls due to the boys curiosity and feeling soo bad for the girls and pis... at their ma's- to protest maybe would have been seen as sicko so left the area as 100's of folks were there and my wife(at the time) said it was not for us to say anything- still felt bad for those girls and maybe related to mandatory nude swimming in front of same age females at college ??
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Coyote, although I would find it strange for same age females to be present as instructors in a boys nude swim class, I think it would be more embarrassing for these girls to be in the presemce of a whole class of nude guys, especially if she was the only girl there. I mean these wouldn't be boys, which would have been a different situation, but college age guys, if I get the message right.
How did these girls react in this situation, were they alone during these classes or with other female instructors? Do you think they enjoyed this situation or were a bit embarrassed even though being clothed? |
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Here's a twist on this post. Back when I was 11-13 years old it was common for us guys to go skinny dipping, even when girls our age were around. I remember many times coming out of the lake naked in front of them. I think I was always a little embarrassed, but I don't think I even bothered to use my hands to cover my groin, and I know the girls were looking and checking us boys out.
But one day in that same age range I was pantsed in front of several girls, some of whom had already seen me naked getting out of the pond where we swam. Just my pants were pulled down, I still had my underpants on, but I has totally humilated, got an erection, and was reduced nearly to tears, absolutely begging the guys who pantsed me to let me go. To this day (this was 40+ years ago) I still can't understand the difference in my reactions. Anyone else have similar reactions or understand why the two events provoked such different responses? Also, a month or so back Jonthan said something about naked boys in a group not getting erections. In our group (on this side of the pond) it was a common occurance for one or more of us to get hard and none of us made a big deal about it. If girls were there you waited till it went away or got out and let them see it. Most of us waited unless we were late getting home or something. |
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hey Bob: it was a few years ago and this topic made me recall the situation- uuhh we (my classmates) seemed to accept it as a necessary thing and despite it being something (now looking back at the scenario) likely not proper- it was a assumed a requirement and I do recall asking a textile girl instructor if she taught the girl classes and she said she did and they were not made to be nude but also said she was so used to the boys being naked it should not be an item and was part of her degree so it was left at that and when one of the fellows mentionned why the girls were permitted suits her response was"dunno" but she was one of 4-6 girls selected as substitute instructors and her concern was graduating- made sense to us and the fact it was female some days versus male did not appear to be a problem although our GF's were ticked off - dunno-
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Where did Sarah Lynn go ? Gotta ask her? I was about 12 yrs old and scrambling over huge rocks at the seashore and w/o any warning I was an observant to my best pal's mom and 4 of her female companions stark naked changing into beach attire-for sure I got out of there and recall it now as first time seeing mature ladies naked- on the other hand I do remember the same lady used to insist we go from clothes to bathing suits w/o going to the woods when we were invited for an afternoon swim at the lake and found it to be uncomfortable- guess it is a question for Sarah as to her comfort with seeing other gender naked whereas I feature it now- at a younger age it was not that way!!
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sandra: if you were not w/o underwear we would not have known your gender so we thank you!!
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To long gone Sarah Lynn (delicate young girl she was) Ryan had an erec.... but was embarrassed as he knew with a broken hip you were out of the game but like a "good 'ol boy he was waiting for the nurse" You may have learned a lot about the male anatomy but sure did not understand his overall plan ! sorry !1154
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lol
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are you related to Wile E. Coyote ?
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I think I am but quite distant. He has better bloodlines ! |
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FYI: There's a Yahoo Group related to this subject:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/YMCANaked2/ You need a free Yahoo acct. to view the page or to join, but just follow the links to sign-up if needed, then click the above link. |
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I also participated in nude boys swim classes in junior high school in the mid 1970 in Michigan. The additiute at our school was the why would you want to wear a swim suit? Ony a sissy would have to wear one. I hope that we can have the option of nude swims at public school in the future
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Since: Nov 09
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Hi all. Just reading these and posts on the other topic-related. Thinking....few if any schools in the south had pools (FL excepted). California schools had outdoor pools for the most part. I grew up in GA, and skinnydipped w buddies (or in white briefs)in the moutains, as soon as it warmed enuff. Swam nude in three or four different YMCA's over the years. Back in the 50's and 60's females were mostly care givers with large families. Modesty was nto important to them. And boys got dirtier than girls and who wanted all that dirt inside the house (hose them off outside). Historically in rural or lower income, or southern families, boys have been treated more like objects by mothers, than girls. And girls were taught to clean up younger boys. Part of their training. Boys were wilder, also, and getting them nude was part of controlling them. Any mother who is a stay at home, can tell you that. Plus, plus, most families I know today, even, talk of how their boys take off their clotes at any opportunity, wanting to be nude when younger.
Personally, I don;t see any problem with older females supervising naked boys. I think it is part of training that calms boys, making them more part of their society, less wild. A checking, if you would. Anyone want to go offline with this, sailer10@yahoo Happy to hear your views that may not be appopriate or accepted here. |
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I swam naked at the Y and in high school. I thought it was a great equalizer. By that I mean we had a lot of cliques in school. Cool guys, surfers, dorks, geeks, nerds, etc. Naked we were all the same!
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I'm French and I was born in 1946. My experience is that during my high school years, there were no showers to be taken before or after physical education. It was even less question that educators will show naked before us. That's why I'm always amazed that this has been possible in the U.S. at the same time. So when we were in physical education, we keep our underwear. Only for the pool sessions, we removed to put our bathing suits ... and still no shower before. I attended a few gymnastics clubs thereafter. The practice of nudity in the locker room was at least 80% all ages combined. |
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My sympathies to you.I was wondering if the girls ever said anything to guys,in the hallway or outside somewhere? |
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