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Kevin
Cleveland, OH
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anyone who really wants to get off the shit try suboxone. It worked for my friend who shot H and Blows many many oxy 40s a day. The sub got him clean took 3 weeks and when he went off the sub he said he was able to deal with the very slight wd symptoms but if u cant handle it take tramadol for bout a wk once your of the suboxone then stop everything and no more withdrawals just will have the mental craving to deal with better than a physical dependence.I do about 60-80 mg of oxy up my nose a day, my friend still gets suboxone prescribed and im bout to try the same 3 week detox he did and hope for the best.
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Kevin
Cleveland, OH
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dgb wrote: I've been on Subutex (same as Suboxone but does not contain Nalexone which is the substance that blocks opiates) for 6 months now after having an intense habit with heroin and pain medications. I must say that if you really do want to stop your habit, this medication will make your withdrawal symptoms pretty much non-existent. The only thing I missed in the beginning was that you don't really get that mental sense of well being like you do with oxys but I was so happy to not have the chills and terrible muscle pains that go along with opiate w/d. Subutex/Suboxone is a great step in the right direction you just have to make sure to take it when you are in full blown withdrawal because if you take it soon after you have had opiates in your system it can put you immediately into acute withdrawal. I've been through the whole methadone clinic experience too and I like the Subutex (bupropion) route. I've been clean for 6 months and only take my Subutex and xanax which are prescribed for me. Just my .02. P.S. I've injected my share of oxycodone in various forms and I always thought this substance was better taken orally. Please don't try to tell me I didn't prepare it right or didn't now how to inject because I would get a rush but it was never worth the health risk I was taking. I don't recommend heroin use but if you want to shoot something just go right to the H and stop wasting your time. P.P.S - Chef CRE, you would never want to prepare a 10/325 or any oxycodone product containing acetominophen. Most users stick to the pills that contain only oxycodone and various fillers/binders (ex: roxicodone, oxycontin). There are ways to extract oxycodone from something like a 10/325 but it's hardly worth the effort IMO. are u still on the suboxone? my friend gets them prescribed and i want to get clean but want to know what it'd be like if i did a 2-3 wk suboxone detox then not take anything. right now i snort 60-80 mg of oxy throughout the day. if i do the sub then stop it after 3 wks will i feel much wd symptoms? my friend said no and if i do that tramadol would take care of it.
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Smarterthanyou
New York, NY
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monty wrote: OMG you people are sick, get some will power you weak minded fool. LOSER! Wow, are you dumb! Are you actually so uneducated that you think people do not cease doing certain drugs b/c they have no "power"? Please read something, anything, and learn about the physiological effects of opiates on the body and mind before you casually toss out a statement like that. My guess is that you are a loser in just about every way BUT being addicted, and degrading those who are addicted makes you feel better about your shortcomings or flat-out failure. Am I close?
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bri
AOL
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monty wrote: OMG you people are sick, get some will power you weak minded fool. LOSER! then why are you reading this shit.... loser?
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Diplomatic Fan
AOL
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Jack Richards, sorry to say it, but you probabaly are the retard. Oxycodone 40mgm is the SAME EXACT thing as Oxycontin 40mgm (when crushed up), So if you have a crushed OC40 pill and say 4 Oxycodone 10 mgm pills, its the same exact thing. Whats diffrent is the Time Release band around the OC pill, which is used for people with chronic pain, so they take the pill without worrying to take another one for hours. Ive been using for about 4 years now and im about to turn 20, alot of my freinds use this for fun to but as i know now its very dangerous because i was doing more then i could pay for. Im actually coming off now, the thing is my bodys addicted, mentally im fine. i know i can do it, just belive in yourself and it will be fine. belive me. good day!
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bryan
Cut Bank, MT
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Oxycontin is simply the "non generic" "brand Name" of the pills, there is really no difference except the oxycodone which may say abg on one side instead of oc may be a few mg less, not much though
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bryan
Cut Bank, MT
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bryan
Cut Bank, MT
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Can't shoot those my friend...too much tylenol. I know it sucks, but if you're prescribed say the acetametophine makes your stomach hurt. or tell your doc you read that much tylenol is harsh on your liver. in reality it is very harsh...more than alcohol
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bryan
Cut Bank, MT
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yeah shut the fu*ck up you little punk. You arent addicted obviously, so don't speak on the subject BITCH!
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sick of doctors
Omaha, NE
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Mike you are wrong. My doctor prescribed oxycontin for fibromyalgia pain and never told me of withdrawal affects should I go off. Now I am having a horrible time trying to taper and suffer the side affects. I wish all the pain in the world on Dr Brown for the 2 deaths and all the pain he has caused. Thank God he got busted and hope you do to if you prescribe this evil without explanation of side affects. I am NOT a junky, just a 63 yr old woman who accidently got hooked thanks to the kind doctor.
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bamacutie
Albertville, AL
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Smarterthanyou wrote: <quoted text> Wow, are you dumb! Are you actually so uneducated that you think people do not cease doing certain drugs b/c they have no "power"? Please read something, anything, and learn about the physiological effects of opiates on the body and mind before you casually toss out a statement like that. My guess is that you are a loser in just about every way BUT being addicted, and degrading those who are addicted makes you feel better about your shortcomings or flat-out failure. Am I close? Hey smarterthanyou, you don't sound very educated or smart, you just sound like an ass
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SoSad
Los Angeles, CA
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Wow Monty, You need some education! Your ignorance is sad, and your lack of compassion and judgmentality makes you look more ill and pathetic than any addict! Addiction is a DISEASE! It's like telling a diabetic to have some willpower and control their insulin level. Get well soon Mont! monty wrote: OMG you people are sick, get some will power you weak minded fool. LOSER!
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kydrby4ever
Miami, FL
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again people,FREEDRUGCARD.US if you are paying for drugs, any drugs, out of pocket... here is the site to save $$! it is free to anyone, they list all local pharms(members) in your zipcode, just fill it out,print and save ea time you refill... remember, they are an advertisement company, so your info is available to them to do as they choose after (resellthe pharm is obligated to tell them whatever they have on you, your "right to privacy" is no longer respected, but the discounts are substancial.if you are dirty and "double DR" to get more meds, you will get caught using this site for both.... oxy 80s 4.75 per pill (60 for 270.00) roxy 30s ($.50 ea)(90 for 45.00)as opposed to 9.00 ea(80s_60 for $540.00) and 1.40 ea(30s_ 90 for 126.00)
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JennJones107
Dallas, TX
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Mike wrote: Well first of all,doctors are not responsable for your addiction.And second of all your dumass shouldnt of started shooting it.And Third of all YOU ARE A JUNKIE,and after you cant get no more you are gonna start stealing and lose your job,and be out on the streets trying to get Herion.Sorry to say Dumass it is people like you that fuck it up for every one else that needs the medication.People like you makes me sick to my fucking stomach.Oh and by rthe way i been on the 80mg for 3 years now,and i take itr as prescribed,and i use the medicine because of the cripling arthritis in my hands and in trhe knees and back,so i dont feel sorry for a drug addict.So enjoy your addictrion why you can,cause it will come to a end really quick....Sincerly Dr.Micheal Certified Chemical Dependency Physician Dr. Micheal, I completely agree with the comment you left. When I read the comment earlier up in the page that is was the doctors fault, I was astounded!! That is such bull shit!! Everyone makes their own decisions as to what they do or put in their bodies! If they are abusing the meds then is the doctor holding them down and forcing them to take them? I doubt it. I take OxyCodone along with Actiq 800 mcg for breakthrough pain from shattering 5 vertebra. I have a implanted morphine pump so those meds mentioned are just "add-ons". The reason I got on this page was because I was wondering two things. Was OxyContin stronger than OxyCodone, and second, even though I take these pills as prescribed, am I going to have to go through the same withdrawl and side effects like the junkies IF I ever get off these? Has this made me an "addict"? Is there anything I can change? I have been taking these type of pills in various dosages for 5 years now. I just don't want to be in the same category as these people on this page. Thanks. Jenn
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JennJones107
Dallas, TX
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Dr. Micheal, I completely agree with the comment you left. When I read the comment earlier up in the page that is was the doctors fault, I was astounded!! That is such bull shit!! Everyone makes their own decisions as to what they do or put in their bodies! If they are abusing the meds then is the doctor holding them down and forcing them to take them? I doubt it. I take OxyCodone along with Actiq 800 mcg for breakthrough pain from shattering 5 vertebra. I have a implanted morphine pump so those meds mentioned are just "add-ons". The reason I got on this page was because I was wondering two things. Was OxyContin stronger than OxyCodone, and second, even though I take these pills as prescribed, am I going to have to go through the same withdrawl and side effects like the junkies IF I ever get off these? Has this made me an "addict"? Is there anything I can change? I have been taking these type of pills in various dosages for 5 years now. I just don't want to be in the same category as these people on this page.
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kydrby4ever
Miami, FL
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JennJones107 wrote: <quoted text> Dr. Micheal, I completely agree with the comment you left. When I read the comment earlier up in the page that is was the doctors fault, I was astounded!! That is such bull shit!! Everyone makes their own decisions as to what they do or put in their bodies! If they are abusing the meds then is the doctor holding them down and forcing them to take them? I doubt it. I take OxyCodone along with Actiq 800 mcg for breakthrough pain from shattering 5 vertebra. I have a implanted morphine pump so those meds mentioned are just "add-ons". The reason I got on this page was because I was wondering two things. Was OxyContin stronger than OxyCodone, and second, even though I take these pills as prescribed, am I going to have to go through the same withdrawl and side effects like the junkies IF I ever get off these? Has this made me an "addict"? Is there anything I can change? I have been taking these type of pills in various dosages for 5 years now. I just don't want to be in the same category as these people on this page. Thanks. Jenn Im not a dr, but if youve been through this site you will see I have been there and done that... I use medicinally and do enjoy the "pick up" the meds give, however Im by no means a junkie, I detox 1/4ly to maintain a dose, same dose for 6yrs... severaal disc herneations lower/upper back... to answer your question, youll need serious detoxing when the time comes, its actually easy, if you want off, and are serious about it, when I detox, i have learned how to (ween back) over a months period to not withdraw, I learned this the hard way but regardless, learned it and learned it well... I would say when it comes to that point, to take 2-3 weeks reading all you can abouy it and then make your own accesment, bcuz know one knows your situation more than you, put your own plan together and go with it, if I was making a decision 4 you, id say 1st the pump gets removed then theyll go to a pill form for a while for your pain, at that point, id stay on the extended release med only(oxycontin) works but the duragesic patch is so much easier to ween off, the dr can keep lowering the dose monthly for you, after some time youll be taking duragesic patch only and 25upg dose, at that point youll be able to use a suboxone/subutex drug in small increments to sedate the ill feelings(w/d) for a week or so and then keep taking smaller and smaller doses for the 2nd week, and then step off... the idea being to keep cutting down till your at the lowest possible dose before stopping, imagine being at the top of a flight of stairs, you can jump to the bottom, but thatll hurt bad, or you can walk down, then step off, much easier...its not hard to walk away from these meds, just have to do it like it sr=tarted, slowly! you didnt start off with a huge dose, it happened over time, ween down, it works,never cut it more than 20-25%, or the symptoms are huge(w/d)and never do it day to day, just keep taking less ea week towards the end, the day you take 5mg of oxy and feel the effects of it, your on the right path... to answer your other question, oxycodone is the active ingredient in oxycontin, oxycontin is a time released brand name version, mg for mg there the same med, however the ER on the bottle is extended release(works slower"time released") CR(controlled release) same thing, the hcl(hydrochloride) or however you state it, is immediate release, the effects are quick, for break thru pain, the mg are equal, the way it hits you is different, ones over time, the other is now!same strength regardless... hope this helped you, any questions kydrby4ever@yahoo.com just drop me an email i try to help as much as possible, those who know me from this site, do trust my judgment... been there done that, what ever I havent done, those that are closest to me, have!!!!
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Mike2
AOL
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I seriously doubt that you're a doctor. You lack the intelect. Mike wrote: Well first of all,doctors are not responsable for your addiction.And second of all your dumass shouldnt of started shooting it.And Third of all YOU ARE A JUNKIE,and after you cant get no more you are gonna start stealing and lose your job,and be out on the streets trying to get Herion.Sorry to say Dumass it is people like you that fuck it up for every one else that needs the medication.People like you makes me sick to my fucking stomach.Oh and by rthe way i been on the 80mg for 3 years now,and i take itr as prescribed,and i use the medicine because of the cripling arthritis in my hands and in trhe knees and back,so i dont feel sorry for a drug addict.So enjoy your addictrion why you can,cause it will come to a end really quick....Sincerly Dr.Micheal Certified Chemical Dependency Physician
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Russ420
Smyrna, GA
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still looking for OC's denverco@bellsouth.net
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elmo
Conroe, TX
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Eric in Tucson wrote: Tommy Moon. Jay is 100% correct: When you inject oxycodone or oxycontin you are only putting 30 or 40 mg's of oxycodone into your body. The rest of the product is filler, mostly in the form of Talc powder, the same stuff that is used for babies to keep them dry, etc. This is literally a type of stone, that is mined from the ground and then crushed into a fine powder, it is similiar to chalk, which is also a very fine stone. When injected it is impossible for your body to metabolize this compound. It is never broken down, and becomes lodged in the capillaries and veins that run throughout your lungs. Unlike many products that are inhaled, such as dust, etc, talc and other products that you are injecting are never removed from your blood system. They will literally be there until the day you die, which literally could be the next time you inject. This causes major damage to your lungs. It is the primary killer of those that inject pills meant for oral consumption. Once your vessels become blocked the blood that normally would flow through the blocked area will clot. This clot will eventually break off and head straight to your heart. You will suffer a heart-attack, if you have not already suffered from a minor one (the oxycodone you are injecting can literally mask the symptoms of a minor heart-attack), and YOU WILL DIE. If you must: taking oxycontin by any other method is safer than taking oxycontin via injection. I would advise you to seek help and immediate medical attention, before you suffer from what will be a VERY painful death. If you don't get help for yourself, do it for those that will miss you when you're gone. There are other drugs, if you must, but injecting oxycontin will kill you, and MUCH, MUCH quicker than you're thinking. We are talking about weeks and months of use here, years, or even half-years. You are living on borrowed time my friend. God bless and please find help in your area. glad you set him right i never said to iv the meds elmo
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agirlcop
AOL
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My sister in law is 32 weeks pregnant and has shot up the whole time with dirty needles, she has overdosed twice during this pregnancy and has had to by put on a ventilator due to her oxygen level falling and the babies heart beat falling, I can't even imagine what condition this baby with be born with. And her plan is to go into rehab four weeks before delivery to detox so she want loose the baby, and the crazy thing is that they will probably let her keep the baby because she goes to a different hospital each time and is planning to go to a different hospital for the birth. The only time she has seen an obstetrician is when she has been in the hospital. And she says the ultrasounds look fine believing that the baby is fine. She had a son two years ago from this past Christmas. She was in the methadone program while pregnant with him and he still had withdraws from the methadone. When he was born he had methadone and cocaine in his system, but there wasn't any cocaine in her system so that's why she got to keep him, duh she was in the hospital three days before she had him and how did it get in his system and in the placenta. Anyway after two weeks when he came home she left him with her mom, she was raising him with SEVERE emphysema, but tragically she was killed in a car wreck when he was 9 months old, she had him for four months and the state took him and we took him and are in the process of adopting him, she has visited him 32 days out of the fifteen months we have had him. IF THERE IS ANY JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD, she will not be able to bring him home from the hospital, and yes I'm a cop. Its amazing we have contacted everybody we know to and they say they can't get involved until the baby is born. DHS S......S!
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