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Girl who OD'd at KidsPeace dies

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#23
May 3, 2008
 
John Carp lies wrote:
You people all amaze me... if they shut KP down the Mcall would be doing stories on the troubled youths in the Lehigh Valley. Then you all would be commenting on that and why no one is doing anything about it.
Exactly......the m-call reports what it wants and it is all biased....People comment on these things who have no idea what is really going on.....If someone is that ignorant to think that a large company such as KP is allowing illegal staff to work here and that they just let the kids do whatever they want has no idea how the field works. It is so much eaiser to place blame on others but sit around and do nothing to contribute to helping the problem!
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May 3, 2008
 
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How dare you speak for God you ignorant clod....? Thinning the herd? I suspect that if this was indeed God's plan and he vanquished stupid people, your family would have been extinct long before your generation.
Look up simpleton in your family tree, genius. I'll bet it is used plenty you inbred moron.
I am a good christian and am entitled to my opinion....I am not speaking for God and never would.Just an observation and besides,you are living proof that he allows stupid people,inbred morons,and simpletons to exist or maybe you are the exception to the rule and have fallen far from your family tree. "IDIOT" comes to mind....
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#26
May 3, 2008
 
maurice j wrote:
this doesnt surprise me at all! i dont know why everyone is so shocked. things like that happen at kidspeace all the time. its just this time someone passed because of kp negligence. you will find more drugs at kidspeace than any street corner in allentown.
I don't no where you get your information but that is completely not true your. You should be sued for even inplying such a ridiculous statement.
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#27
May 3, 2008
 
Dear Frustrated,

Thanks for a very witty rebuttal. I realize you worked very diligently on it and appreciate your efforts.

However, I doubt if a good Christian would advocate for "thinning the herd".

Forgiveness and tolerance are words used often in the Bible...If you weren't so stuck on being a moral compass for the rest of the world, you would know that.

When you die I wish you luck explaining your mindset to God.

People like you make God weep........
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I am a good christian and am entitled to my opinion....I am not speaking for God and never would.Just an observation and besides,you are living proof that he allows stupid people,inbred morons,and simpletons to exist or maybe you are the exception to the rule and have fallen far from your family tree. "IDIOT" comes to mind....
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#28
May 3, 2008
 
lynda wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you 100%,but I bet you Mr. Ramirez is seeing dollar signs floating before his eyes!Those two girls did it to themselves, they weren't little kids who stumbled on to someones stash ,they were using drugs before this incident and now Mr Ramirez wants to act as if his niece is Miss inocent.Don't blame KP,as a parent you failed at your job and when someone steps in to help you complain.
Accoring to the article Mr. Ramirez lives somewhere in Virginia and Mom lives in New York so what is there backround what was this girls up bringing. Living on the streets?
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May 3, 2008
 
lynda wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you 100%,but I bet you Mr. Ramirez is seeing dollar signs floating before his eyes!Those two girls did it to themselves, they weren't little kids who stumbled on to someones stash ,they were using drugs before this incident and now Mr Ramirez wants to act as if his niece is Miss inocent.Don't blame KP,as a parent you failed at your job and when someone steps in to help you complain.
These two girls apparently didn't even want help in treatment. They were probably ordered to go there for treatment which more than likely wasn't going to help them anyway, as one can see, because they stole from the counselor's car to get their "fix".
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#30
May 3, 2008
 
I agree - except, don't count on the one that lived ever becoming a productive citizen
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This might just be God's way of thinning the herd...the one that died,just might have been a stress on society all her life and the one that lived,just might have incurred a life changing experience and maybe will become a contributor to society through this tragic event.
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#32
May 3, 2008
 
THERE IS NO god
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#33
May 3, 2008
 
show me the money!
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#34
May 3, 2008
 
God just spared her from being stupid in the future. God bless the one that survived. Hope they put him/her into a good thearpy group, cause he/she will need it.
What waste of 16 years, to have it end this way. RIP
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#35
May 3, 2008
 
and there you have it another life lost for a stupid reason... sad....
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#36
May 3, 2008
 
i think the police are the best counselors, i hope kp gets sued and shuts down
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#37
May 3, 2008
 
they didn't have a choice from what I hear once your hooked you need intervention and even still its a serious SERIOUS thing to not try to keep putting in your body =( sad I feel bad... someone should have knows better to keep a closer watch!!!!!!
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These two girls apparently didn't even want help in treatment. They were probably ordered to go there for treatment which more than likely wasn't going to help them anyway, as one can see, because they stole from the counselor's car to get their "fix".
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May 3, 2008
 
teacher wrote:
i think the police are the best counselors, i hope kp gets sued and shuts down
Are you Serious? What sop do you know is a counselor....Another example of an idiot writing something about something they know nothing about!
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#39
May 3, 2008
 
All the money LVHC makes, their huge city or a campus, and what good does it do for that dead little girl?

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#40
May 3, 2008
 
Choices Bethlehem wrote:
My heart goes out to the people who cared about this girl and was doing there hardest to get her straighten out. This young girl gave up on life when she first decided to use drugs. If she was hard up enough to steal the drugs then this girl was not looking to be rehabilated she was waiting to get back on the streets and continue using drugs what kind of life did she have. Unfortunately she took her own life and is responsible for her own death.
Would you be saying that last sentence if it were a pipe bomb she had stolen from the car instead of methadone? Nope. I think you would be saying "What was the person doing with a pipe bomb in the car?" The same principle applies here. The counselor had no more business with the methadone in there than a pipe bomb. There was just no need.
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#41
May 3, 2008
 
Up Yours wrote:
So she OD's after "stealing" methadone -- so what? Thinning the herd, natural selection, survival of the fittest, law of the jungle, etc, etc. All phrases just describing nature's way of getting rid of the weak, unsuitable, exceptionally stupid, and otherwise undesirable misfits who cannot make it in society and would be permanent drains on civilization's limited resources.
If she had not OD'd at Kids Peace, she would have gone down someplace else. Leave it alone, move on, and discuss something important.
And when and if you or your family is killed in a car accident I can rest assured that God has thinned the herd and your permenant drain on society will be gone. Because attitudes like yours and the other evil people on here (who invoke God) are just as much as a permenant drain on society. Be careful what you wish for.
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#42
May 3, 2008
 
Up Yours wrote:
So she OD's after "stealing" methadone -- so what? Thinning the herd, natural selection, survival of the fittest, law of the jungle, etc, etc. All phrases just describing nature's way of getting rid of the weak, unsuitable, exceptionally stupid, and otherwise undesirable misfits who cannot make it in society and would be permanent drains on civilization's limited resources.
If she had not OD'd at Kids Peace, she would have gone down someplace else. Leave it alone, move on, and discuss something important.
You may think like this but this is no place to present your feelings. You are talking about someone's child. It doesn't make a difference to you but it may to her parents. She was a human being and just a teenager.
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#43
May 3, 2008
 
1. chasing the high or suicide? hard to tell. Addiction is controlling and cripples judgment.

2. i have never been fond of nonprofit politics, but KidsPeace does the most they can with the resources they have. Even if you replaced all the people with robots so you didn't have screening errors during the interview and hiring process, people would've built & programmed the robots, and they'd break down at some point. There's never going to be perfect staff or mgt.

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#44
May 3, 2008
 
greynomo wrote:
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And when and if you or your family is killed in a car accident I can rest assured that God has thinned the herd and your permenant drain on society will be gone. Because attitudes like yours and the other evil people on here (who invoke God) are just as much as a permenant drain on society. Be careful what you wish for.
Excellent post. It's funny they use the word nature when describing how a CHILD DIED by ingesting something that is not produced in nature. Methadone is a synthetic opiate, which means it's man-made. They really should take their own advice and post about something they know of.
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