Another Deadly Drug is Sweeping the Streets

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i do take this drug for back pain along with oxcodone 100ml patch and 4 10-325 oxies a day helps but does not take all pain away ....maybe some day they will find something

sarah jayne wrote:

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if it is a deadly drug why are you taking it? Ohhhhhhhhhh i see you are not taking "fentanyl" you are taking the less popular drug oxycontin! sorry my mix up sarah x

What in the world are you talking about? Jack is using percocet 10/325 for break through pain and the 100 mcg/hr transdermal fentanyl patch for chronic pain.

Oxycontin is an extended release formulary that has the same active opioid "oxycodone" as percocet/percodan/roxicodone

This is a very accepted treatment method for chronic pain patients. Not accepted for drug addicts but you already knew that right?

Jack it seems like you are needing to talk to your pain doc and see about dropping the percocet and see if a little more powerful oxycodone tablet might be better. You should really not be taking tylenol for an extended period of time and there is 325mg of tylenol in every 10/325 tab you are taking.

I was on Oxys ,vicadin,and soma for a long time for pain. Because my Dr had a hissy fit at me and refused to give me any more I was forced to detox. I never abused these meds,and took them exactly as perscribed. What a blessing my Dr was an ass! I am now completly drug free,and had to look for a alternate treatment. I found a very good chiro center that uses adjustment therapy, as well as physical therapy. I was told I needed either a implanted moraphine pump,a implanted stimulator, or major surgery,I have many problems with my back and was in so much pain, I could not do anything. Since I started at the chiro clinic, I am in less pain than I have been in a very long time. I can do things I havent done for ages ,and I feel alive again. These pain pills really do cause one to live in a fogged over world. Therapy is hard work, and you have to do what is recommended, but for me it has done wonders. Narcotics are not always the answer. Look into other ways to heal your body,narcotics cannot and do not heal!

Its interesting that continued opiate use over long periods actually decrease one's tolerance for pain. So the very thing people in chronic pain take actually makes them feel worse!

penny wrote:

Its interesting that continued opiate use over long periods actually decrease one's tolerance for pain. So the very thing people in chronic pain take actually makes them feel worse!

This is a hypothesis not scientific evidence. It is the words and feelings of that person not the entire chronic pain world.

I am thrilled that she has found something to assist her in her battle with pain, I would be no less thrilled if I could find a pain free life and I have been to just about every type of therapy and none but medicine has helped to be able to function in the world.

thanks guys at least a few smart ones out there understand what pain is day after day after day after day after day after day and still hold a job 40 hrs a week and in the cold 40 to 35 f all the time + with water in the air now TELL ME HOW IM SPOSE TO FEEL JUST GREAT GUYS NOT<< THERE ARE DAYS WHEN IT TAKE ALL I HAVE JUST TO GO TO MY JOB BUY THE WAY I HAVE HAD FOR OVER 30 YEARS >> have a pain freee life guys ....

What is wrong with people like Penny is that they do not have chronic pain. It reminds me of my neighbor. She always sees me walk with a cane and when I go oout for 1 second withiutm she inevitably says , "You don't have your cane. You must be feeling better now". What a joke! A few weeks ago I was walking 4 dogs, 1 at a time, using my cane right in front of her. I forgot something from the car and decided it would be faster to struggle without the cane. Sur enough, she says "You must be feeling all better since you're not using your cane."

Lady, I'm CHRONIC with 4 levels of disc herniation, 2 levels of spinal stenosis, spondylodid, a deformed thecal sac, arthritic facet joints, DDD, etc.

One day I'll use my cane to take her temp rectally!

Anyway, Penny, us CP'ers use things like the fentanyl patch for pain relief. Using opiates long term bothers you how, exactly? I use a 100 mcg Fentanyl patch and 30 mg Roxicodone for bt. Without my meds, I would not be a contributor to society. With relief, I do all of the things that a "normal" husband does and more, including driving Son to lessons, shopping, working, etc.

If you had things your way, we'd have millions of people doing nothing but hurting just because of your morals. Stop pushing your morals on us. We are in PAIN and all we ask for is relief just like you would be doing if you were hurt.

I totally agree with Alan. People like Penny who are not in chronic pain have no understanding of what it is like to be in constant pain 24/7. They think everyone should "think" like they do and treat all pain with bayer aspirin for children or nothing at all...they try to force their morals on those of us who experience pain on a daily basis. I wonder how long it would take before they changed their tune if (they) had severe pain around the clock? Probably not too very long.

chronic pain sufferer wrote:

I totally agree with Alan. People like Penny who are not in chronic pain have no understanding of what it is like to be in constant pain 24/7. They think everyone should "think" like they do and treat all pain with bayer aspirin for children or nothing at all...they try to force their morals on those of us who experience pain on a daily basis. I wonder how long it would take before they changed their tune if (they) had severe pain around the clock? Probably not too very long.

Likly it would not take more than a couple of days of the kind of pain that chronic pain paitents suffer from to change the minds and hearts of those that believe that the pain we are in is "imaginary" and feel that we need to "pull ourselves up by the boot straps" and deal with it. Until someone lives the life of a pain sufferer, they will not understand what it is like and will never have sympathy for someone that depends on medicine and doctors to make it from one hour to the next let alone day to day.

It really disturbs me that these people only feel that thier medical concerns are valid and the fact that the AMA recognises that chronic pain is the most undertreated sickness in the U.S. and are now pushing doctors to recognise and treat pain patients, that in and of itself should show the doubters that we are real people that just want to live a healthy life and the fentanyl transdermal patch is the way that we can go for 72 hours at a time and if there is no access to our break through medicine we can still live and be human but without the long acting medicines we are tied to pill bottles and stuck at home for fear of needing medicine and fear of not being able to have our medicine on hand.

WAKE UP....... we are real people too!!!

well said brian......un till you have it, a thing called PAIN ..you cant know what i am feeling so its better not to say any thing then to open your mouth and remove all doubt on how stupid you really are ..we the people with pain live with it 24/7 it just gets less painfull with fentanyl+oxcodone then with out it it never gos away. there are no meds out there that can make this pain go away ,,they can only make it less painfull for me .......

just me wrote:

I was on Oxys ,vicadin,and soma for a long time for pain. Because my Dr had a hissy fit at me and refused to give me any more I was forced to detox. I never abused these meds,and took them exactly as perscribed. What a blessing my Dr was an ass! I am now completly drug free,and had to look for a alternate treatment. I found a very good chiro center that uses adjustment therapy, as well as physical therapy. I was told I needed either a implanted moraphine pump,a implanted stimulator, or major surgery,I have many problems with my back and was in so much pain, I could not do anything. Since I started at the chiro clinic, I am in less pain than I have been in a very long time. I can do things I havent done for ages ,and I feel alive again. These pain pills really do cause one to live in a fogged over world. Therapy is hard work, and you have to do what is recommended, but for me it has done wonders. Narcotics are not always the answer. Look into other ways to heal your body,narcotics cannot and do not heal!

I dont think that you should say that all people who take pain medicine are in a fogged world. I am on pain meds because of fibro and cfs and cps. without these medications I would be in bed and in chronic pain all the time. Now that I do have my meds, I can go walking and am doing my exersising in the pool. Thank God every day for my dr and my medication, and Im not in a "fogged "world.

just me wrote:

I was on Oxys ,vicadin,and soma for a long time for pain. Because my Dr had a hissy fit at me and refused to give me any more I was forced to detox. I never abused these meds,and took them exactly as perscribed. What a blessing my Dr was an ass! I am now completly drug free,and had to look for a alternate treatment. I found a very good chiro center that uses adjustment therapy, as well as physical therapy. I was told I needed either a implanted moraphine pump,a implanted stimulator, or major surgery,I have many problems with my back and was in so much pain, I could not do anything. Since I started at the chiro clinic, I am in less pain than I have been in a very long time. I can do things I havent done for ages ,and I feel alive again. These pain pills really do cause one to live in a fogged over world. Therapy is hard work, and you have to do what is recommended, but for me it has done wonders. Narcotics are not always the answer. Look into other ways to heal your body,narcotics cannot and do not heal!

Actually, opioid analgesics are not indicated for chronic pain except: terminal cancer or if the use of it returns function to the pained appendage.
Thus, it is not indicated for chronic back pain, arthritic conditions, MS migraine headaches and a host of other conditions for which prescriptions of these are handed out for.
But it is such a good money mill that I doubt the medical industry will follow the approved guidelines of the use of opioid analgesics, not with pain clinics and methadone clinic cropping up everywhere.

Yada wrote:

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Actually, opioid analgesics are not indicated for chronic pain except: terminal cancer or if the use of it returns function to the pained appendage.
Thus, it is not indicated for chronic back pain, arthritic conditions, MS migraine headaches and a host of other conditions for which prescriptions of these are handed out for.
But it is such a good money mill that I doubt the medical industry will follow the approved guidelines of the use of opioid analgesics, not with pain clinics and methadone clinic cropping up everywhere.

Can you provide medical documentation to back these statements? Yes, the original indication for fentanyl and oxycontin were for terminal cancer patients but as medicine has grown up, so has the use of long acting opioids for chronic pain. It is in the documentation that Jannsen puts in their duragesic inserts, I have read them and it is not only indicated for terminal cancer pain. If these meds were not being used in the apporopriate manners, the FDA and the DEA would be more heavily involved.

My heart goes out to you people in cronic pain. I had a 3 week spell where I was in dire, horriable pain, day and night, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep and the doctor kept telling me I was faking it. It was then that I saw how it is for long term pain suffers.

I commend you people who continue to live your lives with your pain. You take whatever drugs you need to take to get relief and don't worry about what anyone else says. Those who taunt you will learn their lesson about pain one day, you can rest assured they will!! I take my hat off to you for not giving up and laying on the sofa groaning "I CAN'T! I CAN'T!". Live and be happy, God Bless!

Halloween jack wrote:

i do take this drug for back pain along with oxcodone 100ml patch and 4 10-325 oxies a day helps but does not take all pain away ....maybe some day they will find something

I have learned to take a pain pill when I first get the pain instead of waiting until the pain becomes unbearable. This works much better for me. I can stand a LOT of pain, so I had to learn to do this.

Be careful with these pain patches especiallly if any of you have children. I was on the patches for crohns disease. It's avery painfel auto immune disease that takes over the digestieve track then moves on to other parts of the body. But back to my o\point my son thought the patches were stickers and got a hold of one while I slept its unclear whether it as a new one or a used one in any case now I am trying to get the drug companie to use bio hazzard boxes for disposal and child resitant packaging just alittle warning for you all on patches

Stephanie wrote:

Be careful with these pain patches especiallly if any of you have children. I was on the patches for crohns disease. It's avery painfel auto immune disease that takes over the digestieve track then moves on to other parts of the body. But back to my o\point my son thought the patches were stickers and got a hold of one while I slept its unclear whether it as a new one or a used one in any case now I am trying to get the drug companie to use bio hazzard boxes for disposal and child resitant packaging just alittle warning for you all on patches

You are supposed to fold the patch and flush them down the toilet. It's no one else's fault but your own your son got a hold of one and you are damn lucky the kid is alive. Parents with their heads up their butts really gets my blood boiling. What is wrong with you?

the epa dosen't want people to flush these patches down the toliet they cause water contamination and my son isn't alive so I live with that eveyday. you do know what the epa is ?

Michael NJ wrote:

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You are supposed to fold the patch and flush them down the toilet. It's no one else's fault but your own your son got a hold of one and you are damn lucky the kid is alive. Parents with their heads up their butts really gets my blood boiling. What is wrong with you?

the nurses and doctors were just throwing them in the garbage these patches are not just dagerous to children but look for people who died from them and the fda knows of atleast 120 deaths from these patches none of which were children as for hving my head up my butt I work to get these atches changed I work politicians so I don't believe my head is up my butt