Local campaign against legalized marijuana begins | Carrollton Free Press Standard News

gram420 wrote:

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and people drink and drive and kill people, oh that's right drinking is legal... and if most of the people who beat up their spouses just chilled out and smoked a little, I would bet they wouldn't hit anyone..and I would guess YOU have never smoked, otherwise you would think differently...how many beers did you have last night?

Yes, people who drink and drive kill people. AND its against the law to drink and drive [even tho alcohol is legal]. Texting is legal too..but not while you are driving in many states.
Ok, I get it now...if people would just self medicate they wouldnt beat up their spouses. What kind of trashy logic is that?

Have I ever smoked? Yes, decades ago. Never drove while I smoked, though. And it didnt lead to other drugs, either..mostly because I quit smoking because I was afraid at some point it WOULD.

How many beers did I have last night? You mean any LEGAL beverage? I had two JD and cokes AT HOME, had them between 4pm and 8pm and I didnt DRIVE afterward. I choose to drink responsibly.

Look, dont worry...your legalization will pass soon enough...just in the same way Obama got elected...because it seems 'cool'. The 'education' will come later, when its too late. Some voters are making many mistakes and forever changing this country into something they will be sorry for. Drugs are NOT cool. Please find a real job.

C'mon "Free Press", do some fact checking before publishing these kind of lies and propaganda. Thousands of years of safe use by mankind plus the general fact you CANNOT OVERDOSE ON CANNABIS. The "Gateway Theory" has been proven wrong by social and scientific studies but obviously doing research before printing falsehoods is not this papers strong point. You can only fool the public so far until the find the facts not propaganda filled rhetoric. BTW, many clinical studies have been done on Cannabis and it's effect as medication is fact but, until this country grows up and faces reality we will continue this war on Americans.

Worth more than corn wrote:

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Actually, every study done to date shows traffic deaths DECREASING in states where medical marijuana is legal. here is one study-
http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/02/why-med...
you see, the people who tell you that this would make roads unsafe, increase teen use, and are paid to say that. it is how they make a living.
Those of us who are fighting for truth and the will of they people, well, we are just volunteers

I agree 100%
during prohibition people still were drinking, so anyone that thinks we should stop smoking what we want to smoke responsibly, and I mean ONLY weed, then look the other way, shut up and mind your own business and I promise I won't drive anywhere near you on the highway... not that I am out there driving like a madman with smoke billowing from the windows... I keep it to myself and in private.

Medical Journal BNJ reseachers reviewed information on 10,748 drivers who were involved in fatal car crashes. Twice as many tested positive for marijuana campared with other drivers. From Web MD. So under your wisdom this source is bogus gram420? Who's fighting the truth? I was around it for years and it can be harmful. So we want another legal vice.

Amazing how the *bots* always show up when progressive views are stated. Posters you dont see EXCEPT when the talk turns to legalizing things that have been illegal for centuries.
i.e. gay marriage, legalizng mj, pardoning illegal immigrants, etc.

*wondering if I should just sign my name as 'racist' since thats what Im going to be called by those who disagree with me.

A Vet wrote:

Medical Journal BNJ reseachers reviewed information on 10,748 drivers who were involved in fatal car crashes. Twice as many tested positive for marijuana campared with other drivers. From Web MD. So under your wisdom this source is bogus gram420? Who's fighting the truth? I was around it for years and it can be harmful. So we want another legal vice.

How many of those people that were in accidents under the influence of marijuana also had alcohol in their system? I don't believe anyone should drive under the influence of any drug, but from the studies I've seen, alcohol is usually present also. There's people on the road that shouldn't be driving sober, let alone under the influence of drugs or alcohol. This isn't a valid reason for medicinal marijuana to be illegal though because whether you want to believe it or not, there's always going to be people driving under the influence. There's people driving under the influence right now on medications that were prescribed by their doctors that are perfectly accepted for some reason. I personally trust natural medication over man made chemicals.

An American wrote:

Insulin doesn't alter judgement or your motor skills like Marijuana. I sure hope someone dosen't operate machinery on the job after a joint. How is this RACIST propaganda anyway Pooky?

Who said this is legalizing smoking and driving? We already have DUID laws on the books. Also, as far as I know, companies already do not allow being under the influence of anything on those types of jobs, including prescription drugs that would affect their coordination.

Let's use some common sense here. If marijuana is legal to use, medical or otherwise, more people will use it and some will take their chance to drive under the influence thinking "I didn't have that much". Yes, in the study I read some did have alcohol and marijuana in their system at death. I believe this study was in France.

A Vet wrote:

Medical Journal BNJ reseachers reviewed information on 10,748 drivers who were involved in fatal car crashes. Twice as many tested positive for marijuana campared with other drivers. From Web MD. So under your wisdom this source is bogus gram420? Who's fighting the truth? I was around it for years and it can be harmful. So we want another legal vice.

And the reason they tested positive is because cannabis metabolites stay in your system for days and weeks after use when you are not even under the influence anymore. I would also like the link to that research if you would.

A Vet wrote:

Let's use some common sense here. If marijuana is legal to use, medical or otherwise, more people will use it and some will take their chance to drive under the influence thinking "I didn't have that much". Yes, in the study I read some did have alcohol and marijuana in their system at death. I believe this study was in France.

I think the same people that use it already will be the ones that still use it after legalization. I'm not saying that I disagree with you, but I don't think it's going to be a drastic change. I don't think it's fair to the people that responsibly use it for real medical conditions who are deprived of a medication that could improve the quality of their lives. With it being legal medically, a patient could go into a safe environment, where it would be regulated and given to people only with the reccommendation of a doctor, to receive their medication instead of going into some drug dealers home and having no clue what to expect. When it comes to things like this, I stop thinking of my own personal views and think of the state as a whole. This could potentially help thousands, maybe millions, in just our state alone. It might even help you one day, one of your family members, your best friend...who knows.

Know The Facts wrote:

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How many of those people that were in accidents under the influence of marijuana also had alcohol in their system? I don't believe anyone should drive under the influence of any drug, but from the studies I've seen, alcohol is usually present also. There's people on the road that shouldn't be driving sober, let alone under the influence of drugs or alcohol. This isn't a valid reason for medicinal marijuana to be illegal though because whether you want to believe it or not, there's always going to be people driving under the influence. There's people driving under the influence right now on medications that were prescribed by their doctors that are perfectly accepted for some reason. I personally trust natural medication over man made chemicals.

Amen and thank you... I don't condone drinking and driving, smoking and driving, or taking prescription drugs and driving, but we all know that is what is happening out there. If a Doctor tells me it's ok to put these prescription drugs with all the side effects into my system and then I drive away from their office, then why can't I, in the comfort of my own home, take a hit or two and mellow out to relieve the pain that the scrips don't touch...be so wrong? One persons Martini is another persons toke...big deal.

A Vet wrote:

Medical Journal BNJ reseachers reviewed information on 10,748 drivers who were involved in fatal car crashes. Twice as many tested positive for marijuana campared with other drivers. From Web MD. So under your wisdom this source is bogus gram420? Who's fighting the truth? I was around it for years and it can be harmful. So we want another legal vice.

No one is saying it is safe to drive while intoxicated on any substance.
the fact is, though, that traffic deaths decrease significantly in medical marijuana states.
if the law can be writted in a way that does not infringe on the rights of people who DO NOT use medical cannabis, then we should allow freedom of choice to those who wish to use it.

Know The Facts wrote:

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I think the same people that use it already will be the ones that still use it after legalization. I'm not saying that I disagree with you, but I don't think it's going to be a drastic change. I don't think it's fair to the people that responsibly use it for real medical conditions who are deprived of a medication that could improve the quality of their lives. With it being legal medically, a patient could go into a safe environment, where it would be regulated and given to people only with the reccommendation of a doctor, to receive their medication instead of going into some drug dealers home and having no clue what to expect. When it comes to things like this, I stop thinking of my own personal views and think of the state as a whole. This could potentially help thousands, maybe millions, in just our state alone. It might even help you one day, one of your family members, your best friend...who knows.

If we can do it right, less kids will use it after passage than they do now. the answer is twofold-

1. raise money for drug abuse prevention through the law
2. change the perception od marijuana from a "cool drug" to a substance that helps sick people. we can do that without glorifying it.
3. raise money for law enforcement and safety resources through the law

add in some clauses that allow each locality to make their own decision, so that Carroll can do what id best for Carroll, and Cuyahoga can do what works for Cuyahoga, and we have winner.

marijuana is medicine, we know that. a broken federal system (dea/fda)is no reason to deny it from people at the state level. this change must come from the states.

A Vet wrote:

Let's use some common sense here. If marijuana is legal to use, medical or otherwise, more people will use it and some will take their chance to drive under the influence thinking "I didn't have that much". Yes, in the study I read some did have alcohol and marijuana in their system at death. I believe this study was in France.

actually, this is a good question posed as a fact.

making a substance legal DOES NOT increase its use. we know this from studies where is has been done with marijuana and other substances. it just is not true.

it is simple-
put two boxes infront of a kid.
tell him he CAN'T have box #1, then tell him he CAN have box #2 then leave the room.
he will open box # 1 all day.

prohibition fuels desire, especially when founded in fear.

Euro K 2Me wrote:

Amazing how the *bots* always show up when progressive views are stated. Posters you dont see EXCEPT when the talk turns to legalizing things that have been illegal for centuries.
i.e. gay marriage, legalizng mj, pardoning illegal immigrants, etc.
*wondering if I should just sign my name as 'racist' since thats what Im going to be called by those who disagree with me.

it is not fair to call anyone a racist over this issue, particularly when so little knowledge has been shared with the average person.

the bottom line is this- we know marijuana has medical value, and we know we don't want to arrest people who use it as medicine. what we need is a well written law that carves out a specific exception for specific people under specific circumstances. no loopholes. no games. no slippery slope.

lets all step up and handle this properly togehter as Ohioans. do not be afriad to tell a kid that marijuana has medical value and can not kill you, but it most certainly can hinder the adolescent brain from developing, and thus hinder your growth and maturity as a person.

it does not have to be so confusing.

Bahahahaha!! I love how this organization is only backed by people that stand to lose money if they can't arrest and prosecute drug user and dealers anymore!! Cops, Judges, Prosecutors, Counselors and such!! Why don't you guys join an organization of men and women who actually learned something while in their uniform!! it's called L.E.A.P.!!

There are Ohio doctors and Law enforcement ... even prosecutors, judges that support the end to cannabis prohibition when it comes to medical use.

watch this...

http://youtu.be/MBkLDYu8JuE

Worth more than corn, and others please explain to me how traffic deaths are reduced when marijuana is legalized.

A Vet wrote:

Worth more than corn, and others please explain to me how traffic deaths are reduced when marijuana is legalized.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobileweb/2011/...

The Huffington post is an extreme left wing publication. Most don't take stock in what comes from them. Now where else would I find what you put out to support your claim.