"Wealth Redistribution"

Really? Conservatives think that way? LOL!

Every liberal I know gets out of paying their due in ways I never would. And then they tell ME, usually while eating at my table, about the evils of conservatism.

As a healthcare professional I have few deductions and pay a hefty income tax. But that is nothing compared to my brother who is a lawyer and has his own small firm- he paid for his entire education on his own while working and after paying for healthcare for his employess and overhead (you know, job creation) he then pays over 40K a year in estimated payments on $140K of taxable income, AFTER paying twice what everyone else does in SS as a sole proprietor!

There are cheapskates all over the boards, but most conservatives I know are fine with paying their taxes, and would even be willing to pay a little more if EVERYONE took the hit and had a vested interest in this country and the money wasn't thrown away on political favors.

That kind of prejudiced rhetoric is simply clueless. I thought for a minute you might be a serious poster but it turns out that you are just another dishonest sock trying to look moderate- just like Obama & Co.

The Volcano wrote:

Conservatives like this because they think that the taxpayers owe them a living.

Oh, and I didn't know that there were that many conservatives in Occupy!

What a reversal of the truth that statement is.

Jammercolo wrote:

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CEO pay is up over 400% over the last twenty years middle class broke even over same time span.
I agree $150K is not rich but I bet those that make that amount can make their house payments, have medical insurance,can save for retirement,send offspring to collage. That dude that is now a scab worker at a cooper tire plant that locked out it's workers right before thanksgivings is only making $15 an hour while management got HUGE pay raises. The one union workers did pay federal taxes the new guys at $15 an hour won't...

Jammer, that doesn't answer my question.

Are you advocating that the gov't control wages?

And why should a skilled/educated person make the same as an unskilled/uneducated person?

If there were more jobs the market would take care of bad employers. But all the gov't intervention has had exactly the opposite effect- fewer jobs, less accountability.

I don't know how to undo it, but doing more of it, as this administration is he'll-bent on doing, is the wrong direction for America.

Jammercolo wrote:

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Have you seen this.
Health care spending shows slowing trend
http://bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2012/04/28...
Or this one?
The Affordable Care Act - Stronger Benefits to Seniors, Billions in Savings This Year.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/sec-kathleen-se...

Did you even Wally read the article in the Boston Globe?

Market forces.

I guarantee that the costs will increase EXPONENTIALLY if ObamaCare takes hold. Just look at the Medicaid costs here in CO since they implemented new ObamaCare rules in 2009. NINE TIMES the cost estimates. ObamaCare is nothing but a huge redistribution scam that does nothing about costs.

Wally? I hate autocorrect. REALLY.

Aggie Nostic wrote:

Wally? I hate autocorrect. REALLY.

Helpful hint:

Don't fret your typos. I don't. So I mispell a word, no biggie to me. Spell check is not smarter than you.

Aggie Nostic wrote:

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Jammer, that doesn't answer my question.
Are you advocating that the gov't control wages?
And why should a skilled/educated person make the same as an unskilled/uneducated person?
If there were more jobs the market would take care of bad employers. But all the gov't intervention has had exactly the opposite effect- fewer jobs, less accountability.
I don't know how to undo it, but doing more of it, as this administration is he'll-bent on doing, is the wrong direction for America.

I used to argue this point with him... As you can plainly see, he does not get it. I know I want to be the best I can be in my career so that I can make the same income as the kid flipping my burger at McDonlads.

What kind of world would we live in when Doctors make the same income as the trash collector. He is going to be real interested in further education, and saving your life. Oh, I was looking at that through my rose colored glasses.

My bad.

Jammercolo wrote:

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RIGHT,
Florida welfare drug testing results for one year.
98% passed the drug test.
Cost of test $178 million
Percent that did not pass 2%
Saving to the state for that 2% 60,000 for the year.
Conclusion:
Winner: Drug testing companies
Losers: Tax payers of Florida.

Yep..Saved millions because those on drugs didnt show up..No SS for them..It would save billions..

The Volcano wrote:

By that, I mean that someone else should pay their share of taxes.

Willard Romney recieved a tax write off for his "caritable" donation of $4,000,000.oo ($4M) to his Mormon Church last year. That creates a shortfall of tax payment on his accrued earnings. That gap must be filled by we (all) the taxpayers, which in turn means ..... We donated to the Mormon Church last year.

So, in short - we supported Willard's religion over our economy.

How do you feel about that?

*charitable

Cathouse Mouse wrote:

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Willard Romney recieved a tax write off for his "caritable" donation of $4,000,000.oo ($4M) to his Mormon Church last year. That creates a shortfall of tax payment on his accrued earnings. That gap must be filled by we (all) the taxpayers, which in turn means ..... We donated to the Mormon Church last year.
So, in short - we supported Willard's religion over our economy.
How do you feel about that?

Well how much did Obamma donate to his church is the real story ??.Obamma isnt near the charitable guy Mitt Romney is..You just proved it..Mitt Romney is A business man and obamma isnt..We need a business man so we all can make charitable donations to the entity or church of our choosing.. Its better then Obamma giving American jobs to Mexico and Columbia last week isnt it ?
Or what about the 500,00 that Michelle obamma spent on her Spain vacation..Lets talk about the issues impacting America cause by this president and why we need a new one.

Ill make mine to the Blue Dome Church. Catch and release Amen

Cathouse Mouse wrote:

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Willard Romney recieved a tax write off for his "caritable" donation of $4,000,000.oo ($4M) to his Mormon Church last year. That creates a shortfall of tax payment on his accrued earnings. That gap must be filled by we (all) the taxpayers, which in turn means ..... We donated to the Mormon Church last year.
So, in short - we supported Willard's religion over our economy.
How do you feel about that?

Holy hell. Rich people donate heavily to their favorite charity, often times it is one that holds no interest at all to many many other people. They also enjoy the same tax break benefits. I say we round all of them up and stone them!

TStylist wrote:

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Holy hell. Rich people donate heavily to their favorite charity, often times it is one that holds no interest at all to many many other people. They also enjoy the same tax break benefits. I say we round all of them up and stone them!

"Their" favorite charity.

Their favorite charity may be something I don't agree with. For instance, when Willard gives Millions of dollars to his Mormon Church and they in turn pump those millions into a California political campaign favoring Republican issues, then that's not something "I" favor as tax subsidy "I" want to (or should have to) share with my fellow taxpayers.

A "charity" donation should be a personal choice and should be done from kindness and sincerity, not as a tax dodging issue.

As long as churches choose to be active in politics then they should lose ther tax exempt status as well as their "donors". Religious (tax deductable) contributions cost this country a whopping $60 Billion per year in tax shortfalls.

Jesus said to render to Ceaser what is Ceaser's.

We need our money.

Cathouse Mouse wrote:

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"Their" favorite charity.
Their favorite charity may be something I don't agree with. For instance, when Willard gives Millions of dollars to his Mormon Church and they in turn pump those millions into a California political campaign favoring Republican issues, then that's not something "I" favor as tax subsidy "I" want to (or should have to) share with my fellow taxpayers.
A "charity" donation should be a personal choice and should be done from kindness and sincerity, not as a tax dodging issue.
As long as churches choose to be active in politics then they should lose ther tax exempt status as well as their "donors". Religious (tax deductable) contributions cost this country a whopping $60 Billion per year in tax shortfalls.
Jesus said to render to Ceaser what is Ceaser's.
We need our money.

You need to research how many politicians, both Republican and Democrat, have done exactly the same. The list of names would make you dizzy.

It is ok to hate a candidate, but be honest about it. Tell us something we don't know, and for Pete's sake make it interesting for a change.

Personally I hate every single one of them, and wish someone with some actual moral fiber and brain cells would run. But that is too much to ask for these days.

I liked you better when you supprted "rounding them up".

I don't believe any charity donations should be tax deductable. I don't know for sure (because I've not given it much thought as of yet), that I don't oppose any and all tax deductions during active war times.

I'll ponder that, as it would be an extension of my committment on the subject.

So should tax dollars go to ideological causes? For votes?

Cathouse Mouse wrote:

I liked you better when you supprted "rounding them up".
I don't believe any charity donations should be tax deductable. I don't know for sure (because I've not given it much thought as of yet), that I don't oppose any and all tax deductions during active war times.
I'll ponder that, as it would be an extension of my committment on the subject.

Well then you need to make informed choices next time you vote and encourage others to do the same. If we sit on our asses and just vote for who is most popular and worry about who lawfully contributed to charity we are spinning our wheels and losing more and more of what America was truly supposed all about from the beginning. Fighting over who is dem or who is rep and which is more evil and blah blah is doing us no good. Each party has their draw backs, their evils. Maybe if we would stop being radically left or right, we could actually begin to form a government that is actually working as intended.

I'm informed plenty.

Cathouse Mouse wrote:

I'm informed plenty.

Good! Then we can expect to see more open minded contributions from you in the future? Or would that tarnish your stellar and impeccable reputation of being a single minded know it all?

Inquiring minds...

You can expect to continue to see facts from me.

Your opinion on them means little if anything to me.