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Jul 12, 2008

Former Lance Armstrong teammate busted for doping at Tour de France

George Hincapie, right, leads teammate and overall leader Kim Kirchen, center, and Alejandro Valverde, left.

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suprise suprise, super doper is gone and his minions are left to scramble. I suppose that the returns for Ferarri and the risks involved are too high now these people are spread everywhere. Oh to have the days of the super drug train discovery team back again.

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Drugsarebadok wrote:
suprise suprise, super doper is gone and his minions are left to scramble. I suppose that the returns for Ferarri and the risks involved are too high now these people are spread everywhere. Oh to have the days of the super drug train discovery team back again.
I wonder what this one's excuse will be? Not to worry Zen the great will get him off, or at least support him. Oh, maybe not, he isn't American
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suprise suprise, super doper is gone and his minions are left to scramble. I suppose that the returns for Ferarri and the risks involved are too high now these people are spread everywhere. Oh to have the days of the super drug train discovery team back again.
NO COMMENT. You have said it all. Super "Riders", super "Quacks", super "Masking agents". Cycling, really is not about this. Sad for some the bubble has burst. ASO has never had an interest in "faulty" riders. For a start, it would have been counter productive. For the rider, tell me this! Is winning so important?(MONEY) but what about the SPORT! YES SPORT!

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Raymond wrote:
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NO COMMENT. You have said it all. Super "Riders", super "Quacks", super "Masking agents". Cycling, really is not about this. Sad for some the bubble has burst. ASO has never had an interest in "faulty" riders. For a start, it would have been counter productive. For the rider, tell me this! Is winning so important?(MONEY) but what about the SPORT! YES SPORT!
Sport!!?? You must be even older that I am Raymond. I get your point though. The trouble is that the Media will always pick up on the dope stories, more than the SPORT

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Jul 16, 2008
 
Raymond wrote:
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NO COMMENT. You have said it all. Super "Riders", super "Quacks", super "Masking agents". Cycling, really is not about this. Sad for some the bubble has burst. ASO has never had an interest in "faulty" riders. For a start, it would have been counter productive. For the rider, tell me this! Is winning so important?(MONEY) but what about the SPORT! YES SPORT!
Yes, MONEY is the main problem within all sports today Raymond. And so far cycling is the only sport trying to do something about the dopping.

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yes lance we all think you have been doped since your revovery.
It`s great that you you seem to bee medical allright, but you`re probably still the most doped rider ever.
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...Hey DUMBO,speak for yourself.When you say WE,that does not include ME and thousands of others.Go take your Meds., and you may talk some sense...Cheers!

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yes lance we all think you have been doped since your revovery.
It`s great that you you seem to bee medical allright, but you`re probably still the most doped rider ever.
Well, "everyone" in his teams has doped... but him. Seven years without a problem... mmm... mmm...

I think "njn" (like so many others) can smell the smoke; and where there's smoke...

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Gus wrote:
...Hey DUMBO,speak for yourself.When you say WE,that does not include ME and thousands of others.Go take your Meds., and you may talk some sense...Cheers!
Even I agree with you there Gus

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Well, "everyone" in his teams has doped... but him. Seven years without a problem... mmm... mmm...
I think "njn" (like so many others) can smell the smoke; and where there's smoke...
Not every rider who has been on his team has been been found doping. Granted that there have been some who have doped.

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My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:
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Not every rider who has been on his team has been been found doping. Granted that there have been some who have doped.
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Cheers, MOeP... well, I meant "everybody and his brother"... eheheheheheheh...

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Cheers, MOeP... well, I meant "everybody and his brother"... eheheheheheheh...
I know Mogwai. I may have sounded too dry in my post.

Actually over at the DPF (Daily Peloton Forum) there are several people who think that Lance Armstrong doped.

They also think that Miguel Inderain doped and they showed where Bernard Hinault had missed doping controls.

So, it's becoming anyones guess as to who's doping and who's not doping.

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I know Mogwai. I may have sounded too dry in my post.
Actually over at the DPF (Daily Peloton Forum) there are several people who think that Lance Armstrong doped.
They also think that Miguel Inderain doped and they showed where Bernard Hinault had missed doping controls.
So, it's becoming anyones guess as to who's doping and who's not doping.
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...If they haven't been found to be Positive then it's all a guessing game.There are those who think they know it all but,without Proof know Nothing,oh those armchair Sleuths...Cheers!
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...If they haven't been found to be Positive then it's all a guessing game.There are those who think they know it all but,without Proof know Nothing,oh those armchair Sleuths...Cheers!
Hi Gus, Thanks for the extrement crack. I love you too. As for armchair sleuthes, does this include you? As usual my "kindest" regards Raymond.

I am in a hotel in l'alp D'huez. How anyone can cast doubt upon the riders and thier efforts I have seen today is just beyond my belief. UNTILL "PROOVED" OTHERWISE.

Gus forget Landis, He is just one of many who cheated and got caught, sigh.

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Gus wrote:
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...If they haven't been found to be Positive then it's all a guessing game.There are those who think they know it all but,without Proof know Nothing,oh those armchair Sleuths...Cheers!
I agree with you Gus.

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I am in a hotel in l'alp D'huez. How anyone can cast doubt upon the riders and thier efforts I have seen today is just beyond my belief.
Now that's the place to be Raymond. Were you able to watch the race from your hotel or were you down on the side lines?

My wife sends her regards as well and was glad to see you were right there.

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My Opinion_El Paso_TX wrote:
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I agree with you Gus.
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I agree with Raymond this time. We all know now that FL doped and got caught don't we
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<quoted text>I agree with Raymond this time. We all know now that FL doped and got caught don't we
"Thinking" people do. But then we have "some others". In general, all people are nice, but some allow nationalism to cloud thier vision, now this is sad.

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Jul 23, 2008
 
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<quoted text>I agree with Raymond this time. We all know now that FL doped and got caught don't we
Now Chris, I haven't talked about Floyd Landis here. And now you want to start that all over again. Cheeky Sod.

Enjoyed todays race and it's going to be interesting in seeing how it plays out.

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"Thinking" people do. But then we have "some others". In general, all people are nice, but some allow nationalism to cloud thier vision, now this is sad.
Bye
Well I for one have enjoyed seeing all the riders racing in this TDF. And it's been a real race after Christian Prudhomme omitted the time bonuses. Now if we could just get rid of the team radios, than it could really get better and interesting.

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