Christofias and Eroglu to discuss power sharing

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Tin Yerimin Tin Vraka wrote:

More like nation destroyer.

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Dervis eroglu wrote:

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Tin Yerimin Tin Vraka if a power sharing was to materialise how would you feel having a Turkish Cypriot as president of whole Cyprus?

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MKZ6 wrote:

<quoted text>democracy,a president takes power by the people ,now do you think a minority has the same rights as majority?so lets have a kurdish president ,share the power they are 25/100 of the population.but there is a but the turkish majority wants a turk as a president,why is different in cyprus?.I dont think makes different if there is turk or Greek president the parliament makes the final decisions.If the people are happy ,can be a monkey as a president.Is no solution Eroglou dont make any decision ,edrogan does,so be better if cristofias meet Recep ,and have a talk,they just beat around the bushes=BS.bye my friend

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Dervis eroglu wrote:

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Tin Yerimin Tin Vraka if a power sharing was to materialise how would you feel having a Turkish Cypriot as president of whole Cyprus?

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Dervis Eroglu wrote:

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Cyprus issue is very complex my friend , you are forgetting the signed agreements that made way for independent republic of Cyprus.
in those agreements and Cyprus constitution you will find Turkish Cypriots are partners of RoC and not just some minority second class citizens,
What we had here was Greek Cypriot attempt to erase Turkish Cypriots from being partners in RoC, do away with all Turkish Cypriot rights, and if that wasn't enough give our country to mummy Greece,
How would you feel if it was the other way round and Turkish Cypriots acted in the same way , kicking Greek Cypriot out of being partners and attempt to annex Cyprus to Turkey,
I am sure you will also pick up a gun and defend your rights and your country from being given away.
I Agree with you Christofias should be Talking to Ankara as well without Ankara's agreement nothing will get done,
The reason they wont talk to Ankara is because greeks dont want any kind of settlement which still include Turkish Cypriots with any kind of power in the guvernment, and any involvement of Turkey on the island should be scraped any agreement made like London and zurich agreement should be null and void,
can you see Turkey agreeing to that?
Christofias knows this and that is why he insists on it knowing there will never be any solution for Cyprus.

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Blackadder wrote:

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That's a bang on assessment.
I have known about Greek attitudes for longer than I care to remember and for them, they never recognised the 1960 Treaty.
Their attitude is that is was forced on them and they never intended to honour it.
Also, Greeks think that all the med, Aegean and all of Western Turkey is Greek - this is the mentaliity that underpins everything the Greeks think, say or do.
The 1960 Treaty was the only way to avoid war and partition pre-independence. The Greeks knew that, but rather than build consensus, they set about funding and arming EOKA.
If you read what Greeks say today, its as though they were the perpetual victims - THEY WERE NOT AND ARE NOT.
The only reason why Greeks are able to do what they do over Cyprus is the Greek lobby has strong US support and the EU dislikes Turks.
So all the talks are a waste of time.
Greeks would like to agitate for a conflict as in their eyes,the EU would fight to protect them; the same applies to the new friends they have in Israel.
What they miss is the fact that Turkey has now effectively annexed and the TRNC cannot be undone.
The greek game, for 30+ years is to isolate the north and kill it through trade sanctions. That has worked to some extent, but now the GC's are fccukkked financially like the rest of the Eurozone, their tactics are backfiring.
In my view, nothing will change until the USA changes its view.
The EU are not a player anymore because they only support Greeks.
Personally, if I were in charge of the TRNC, I would open up Varosha and all the other areas of potential to non EU investors and offer 20 year tax breaks to encourage investment.
I was also struck by just how much cash Turkey has poured into the infrastructure of the north.
Cyprus is partitioned - the only question left now is about when that partition will be made legal.
The UN is tired of this dispute and the EU has no ideas at all.
The Greeks do not want a solution [and never have wanted a solution], so like 1960, I suspect one will be imposed.

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PIRATIS wrote:

<quoted text>We have Christofias and you think we would mind having a TC?

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Blackadder wrote:

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That's a bang on assessment.
I have known about Greek attitudes for longer than I care to remember and for them, they never recognised the 1960 Treaty.
Their attitude is that is was forced on them and they never intended to honour it.
Also, Greeks think that all the med, Aegean and all of Western Turkey is Greek - this is the mentaliity that underpins everything the Greeks think, say or do.
The 1960 Treaty was the only way to avoid war and partition pre-independence. The Greeks knew that, but rather than build consensus, they set about funding and arming EOKA.
If you read what Greeks say today, its as though they were the perpetual victims - THEY WERE NOT AND ARE NOT.
The only reason why Greeks are able to do what they do over Cyprus is the Greek lobby has strong US support and the EU dislikes Turks.
So all the talks are a waste of time.
Greeks would like to agitate for a conflict as in their eyes,the EU would fight to protect them; the same applies to the new friends they have in Israel.
What they miss is the fact that Turkey has now effectively annexed and the TRNC cannot be undone.
The greek game, for 30+ years is to isolate the north and kill it through trade sanctions. That has worked to some extent, but now the GC's are fccukkked financially like the rest of the Eurozone, their tactics are backfiring.
In my view, nothing will change until the USA changes its view.
The EU are not a player anymore because they only support Greeks.
Personally, if I were in charge of the TRNC, I would open up Varosha and all the other areas of potential to non EU investors and offer 20 year tax breaks to encourage investment.
I was also struck by just how much cash Turkey has poured into the infrastructure of the north.
Cyprus is partitioned - the only question left now is about when that partition will be made legal.
The UN is tired of this dispute and the EU has no ideas at all.
The Greeks do not want a solution [and never have wanted a solution], so like 1960, I suspect one will be imposed.

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Blackadder wrote:

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The only reason why Greeks are able to do what they do over Cyprus is the Greek lobby has strong US support

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Akritas wrote:

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You British are behind every disaster in Cyprus.
I hope Argentina takes the Falklands from you.
I hope the Irish kick you out of N Ireland
I hope the Cypriots kick you out of your bases
I hope the Blacks keep impregnating your women

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Phoenix wrote:

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I have known about Turkish attitudes for longer than I care to remember and for them, they never recognised the true independence of Cyprus and their goal has always been to expand their territories.
Also, Turks think that all the med, Aegean is Turkish - this is the mentaliity that underpins everything the Turkish think, say or do.
Erdogan recently claimed:
"that the Mediterranean is a Turkish lake and others have been allowed to use it"
The 1960 Treaty was the only way to partition the island.The Turks knew that, thats how they insisted in becoming guarantor power so with the help of their NATO allies grab Cyprus.
If you read what Turks say today, its as though they were the perpetual victims - THEY WERE NOT AND ARE NOT.
The only reason why Turks are able to do what they do over Cyprus is that NATO and the West have too many military,economical and politically interests.Turkey is the spoiled baby of the west.
Turks would like to agitate for a conflict as in their eyes,they are a regional power and since having a get out of jail card by U.S.A and Britain they do what they please.
Cypriots are not dumb and we havent put all our eggs in one basket we know that Israel and Turkey might kiss and make up any day.
Proof of Turkish aggressiveness and its expansionist policies is that it annexed occupied Cyprus to Turkey.
The turkish game, for 30+ years is to isolate the Republic of Cyprus and have the international community recognise the occupied part of Cyprus as a sovereign state has not worked.
In my view, nothing will change until the USA changes its view.Turkey will continue its behaviour against its neighbours since its has the support of Britain and U.S.A.
Shame on the west for allowing this to happen to Cyprus.But the day will come when your spoiled child bites you.

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Akritas wrote:

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You British are behind every disaster in Cyprus.
I hope Argentina takes the Falklands from you.
I hope the Irish kick you out of N Ireland
I hope the Cypriots kick you out of your bases
I hope the Blacks keep impregnating your women

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Dervis eroglu wrote:

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Tin Yerimin Tin Vraka if a power sharing was to materialise how would you feel having a Turkish Cypriot as president of whole Cyprus?

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Blackadder wrote:

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That's a bang on assessment.
I have known about Greek attitudes for longer than I care to remember and for them, they never recognised the 1960 Treaty.
Their attitude is that is was forced on them and they never intended to honour it.
Also, Greeks think that all the med, Aegean and all of Western Turkey is Greek - this is the mentaliity that underpins everything the Greeks think, say or do.
The 1960 Treaty was the only way to avoid war and partition pre-independence. The Greeks knew that, but rather than build consensus, they set about funding and arming EOKA.
If you read what Greeks say today, its as though they were the perpetual victims - THEY WERE NOT AND ARE NOT.
The only reason why Greeks are able to do what they do over Cyprus is the Greek lobby has strong US support and the EU dislikes Turks.
So all the talks are a waste of time.
Greeks would like to agitate for a conflict as in their eyes,the EU would fight to protect them; the same applies to the new friends they have in Israel.
What they miss is the fact that Turkey has now effectively annexed and the TRNC cannot be undone.
The greek game, for 30+ years is to isolate the north and kill it through trade sanctions. That has worked to some extent, but now the GC's are fccukkked financially like the rest of the Eurozone, their tactics are backfiring.
In my view, nothing will change until the USA changes its view.
The EU are not a player anymore because they only support Greeks.
Personally, if I were in charge of the TRNC, I would open up Varosha and all the other areas of potential to non EU investors and offer 20 year tax breaks to encourage investment.
I was also struck by just how much cash Turkey has poured into the infrastructure of the north.
Cyprus is partitioned - the only question left now is about when that partition will be made legal.
The UN is tired of this dispute and the EU has no ideas at all.
The Greeks do not want a solution [and never have wanted a solution], so like 1960, I suspect one will be imposed.

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Blackadder wrote:

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Bitter squeak.

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Tin Yerimin Tin Vraka wrote:

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No Dervis i wouldn't mind if a TC was elected as president in an independant Cyprus free from external interferance