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Oct 26, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger

At Town Hall in Bledsoe Co., Corker Says Senate Finance Health Care Bill Could Raise Some Premiums A

Full story: The Seymour Herald

PIKEVILLE, TN Speaking at town hall meeting in Bledsoe County today, U.S. Senator Bob Corker, R-Tenn., said the Senate Finance Committee's health care bill could raise the cost of health insurance for some Tennesseans by as much as 60 percent.

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Naturally Bob Corker would be afraid of overhauling the healthcare system. One of his biggest campaign contributors, according to http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summar... , is AIM healthcare.

Oh wait: AIM healthcare is "A non-profit corporation created to care for the physical and emotional needs of sex workers and the people who work in the Adult Entertainment Industry". Kind of an odd matchup. Nevertheless, they gave Bob Corker $66,000 . I believe that's the maximum corporate contribution allowed.
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under bob corker, tax's in chatt,doubled what they was when he took over as mayor..while several company's relocated to North GA area..chatt,lost thousands of jobs,,while he used his job as mayor to get rich, useing planning commission and zoining board..today hes one of the richest members in congress..so when corker says its good,he means its good for the millionaire,,he had his way the only workers in america would be the illegal mexicans he got rich working.
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well by all means then lets turn all control over to the Peoples Democratic Republic of the Americas led by Comrade President Obama. You people are as stupid as delusional if you think our situation is going to improve with the spending that is now taking place. The time for talking is quickly coming to an end!!
hillbilly

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Oct 27, 2009
 
bottom line is,insurance company's are big businesses racket making large profits,,to make these profits they require large amount of money by charging high premiums,,well its so out of control people have stopped paying these out rages prices,,so now they are using there pull in government to pass laws requiring you to pay for there overpriced insurance,,talk and more talk in the end they are going to take there money out of your pay..useing same method as car insurance did 20 year ago..lets face it the insurance company's have been trying to force Americans to buy health insurance for over 30 years,,now the time is right and it will pass..hell they tried this under Nixon.we used to talk about it in civic class in school years ago,,remember the cold war,we were taught how a communist government operated.
Ron

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I know it will take us time to undo 50 years of indoctrination, but communism is not evil. Depending on its form, ANY government can be oppressive and totalitarian.

True communism means we all work for the betterment of society as a whole. Right now we work for personal betterment, I.E. money. But in a truly communist society we work for other reasons, most notably because we enjoy it.

Now what Harry Reid has proposed about a public option in healthcare spending is a far cry from communism. Each and every one of us should want to help each other out, to be sure that all Americans are taken care of and in good health. We cannot get that way when hospitals, pharmaceutical companies, and insurance companies reap enormous benefits. Here's some data I found on a few companies. Granted it's from Wikipedia, but I crunched the numbers myself:

* of the top 50 pharmaceutical and biotech companies worldwide, 21 are located in the United States

* including manufacturing costs and R&D, these 21 companies netted 61.9 BILLION dollars in 2008 alone.

* Pfizer alone gave out $2 million in campaign contributions in the 2008 election year, almost evenly splitting their contributions between democrats and republicans. They are trying to buy votes on both sides of the aisle.

* In the 1990s-2000, Pfizer gave between 65% and 85% of its campaign contributions to republican parties. During this time health costs skyrocketed and the republicans controlled both halves of Congress.

It is imperative that we let our representatives and senators know that the American people are sick to death of this pay-to-play system. We've got to let them know we support healthcare reform, even if their campaign contributors fear such an overhaul.
Neither-Or

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I think you make some valid points Ron, with the exception of communism. People are greedy by nature, and they like power, order, and the ability to control things. This is positive and negative. But communism is not the answer at all! Other than that you actually make some sense. True communism is more of a modest idea of wishful thinking though. Early civilizations had some great communist-type leaders. Their reigns, however, were usually turned into shambles after there successors took over. This is true with monarchies and patriarchies as well. Just look at England; King James-bad. King Charles-Good, or do the same with Rome leaders. Republican and Democracy based govts are much better.
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But yea some version of healthcare reform that both parties agree on needs to be met...but the roadblockers likely won't let that happen.
willing to serve

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Ron I don't know who you are but I do know what you are. You are the enemy within. I also know who trained you, the higher education system in this country. Nikita Khcushcev said it best "we will defeat you from within and we will never fire a shot"(paraphrase).

I also have some other names Mao Zedong, Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin, Che Guevara, Pol Pot. These men and people who thought like them, and apparently you, were responsible for conservatively 200 MILLION..........let me say it again 200 MILLION human deaths in the 20th century.

And you sir have the gall to suggest that the system of government they cherished is superier to the Constitution of this country?

I am sorry but I chose to stand with the millions of men and women who have stood in the gap, and died, in the last four centuries to preserve the idea of freedom.

I hope that we will not, but we may face each other in that gap some day.

I will no betray my country to a fairytale.....comrade.
willing to serve

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**correction**

The "defeat you from within" quote was Stalin
Harry Odil

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willing to serve wrote:
Ron I don't know who you are but I do know what you are. You are the enemy within. I also know who trained you, the higher education system in this country. Nikita Khcushcev said it best "we will defeat you from within and we will never fire a shot"(paraphrase).
I also have some other names Mao Zedong, Karl Marx, Joseph Stalin, Che Guevara, Pol Pot. These men and people who thought like them, and apparently you, were responsible for conservatively 200 MILLION..........let me say it again 200 MILLION human deaths in the 20th century.
And you sir have the gall to suggest that the system of government they cherished is superier to the Constitution of this country?
I am sorry but I chose to stand with the millions of men and women who have stood in the gap, and died, in the last four centuries to preserve the idea of freedom.
I hope that we will not, but we may face each other in that gap some day.
I will no betray my country to a fairytale.....comrade.
EXTREMELY well said , Willing To Serve ! Ron evidently loves the "Worker's Paradise" in Cuba where people are leaving on rafts and inner tubes for America , especially baseball players who can earn 1000 times as much for themselves and their families here . He also fails to mention the Russian Gulags of which Alexander Solzhenitsyn wrote so eloquently where hundreds of thousands of political prisoners were beaten and starved and worked to death for criticizing their leaders . Freedom is a gift from God . It does not exist in any Communist country .
Ron

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Freedom is not a gift from God, it is something fought for and won by people. Willing To Serve and Harry Odill are a great example of hasty judgments. There's a lot of things I failed to mention, Harry, because my comment was only two short paragraphs.

A Republic like we have in America isn't all it's cracked up to be, either. We can spend days talking about our boneheaded military incursions that resulted in death and embarassment. After we were done enslaving blacks, we followed that with a hundred years of legislated restrictions on their freedom.

Most of the communist countries we have today are not true communism: they are totalitarian socialist states.

And Willing to Serve, you can blame the higher education system all you want. God forbid we should educate people. I've been a teacher in higher ed for the past three years, with hopefully a long career to come.

I find it interesting that you both chose to jump on one brief comment I made rather than examining the real issue at hand: healthcare reform. Take a look at the data.
Ron

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Don't know how to break this to you, but Karl Marx was an economic theorist. Not a tyrant or dictator. Che Quevara was a revolutionary, not a dictator. How many people did Mao Zedong kill? Not many. But there are a few names missing from your list of tyrranical leaders: George W. Bush, Jefferson Davis, Adolf Hitler, Harry S. Truman (sadly, but yes). Each of these men were responsible for many deaths as well.

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Ron wrote:
Don't know how to break this to you, but Karl Marx was an economic theorist. Not a tyrant or dictator. Che Quevara was a revolutionary, not a dictator. How many people did Mao Zedong kill? Not many. But there are a few names missing from your list of tyrranical leaders: George W. Bush, Jefferson Davis, Adolf Hitler, Harry S. Truman (sadly, but yes). Each of these men were responsible for many deaths as well.
Ron, it is estimated that Mao is responsible for 50-70 million deaths in China. He set China back by a century, a setback that the metropolitan areas have recovered from, unlike the other areas of the country. Not to mention Mao's appetite for young children. Even China is starting to regress in its admiration and exalting of Mao due to the stark reality of his policies. You are well educated and informed on most issues Ron, but on Mao you are off base.
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Ron wrote:
Don't know how to break this to you, but Karl Marx was an economic theorist. Not a tyrant or dictator. Che Quevara was a revolutionary, not a dictator. How many people did Mao Zedong kill? Not many. But there are a few names missing from your list of tyrranical leaders: George W. Bush, Jefferson Davis, Adolf Hitler, Harry S. Truman (sadly, but yes). Each of these men were responsible for many deaths as well.
I don't know how to break this to you Ron , but tyrannical is not spelled with 2 r's . If you are a teacher , which I doubt , I pity your students . You fail to mention that Mr. Truman's actions were in the context of being attacked at Pearl Harbor and he saved the lives of hundreds of thousands of American soldiers who would have been lost in the invasion of Japan (my brother was one of them). Mr. Truman was one of our better presidents . You seem to ignore that Mr. Bush acted in response to terrorism and in the defense of freedom in Iraq . He was one of our better presidents no matter how long and loudly you repeat your left wing lunatic lies to the contrary . Mr. Solzhenitsyn described the old Russian leadership's opinion of people like you , USEFUL IDIOTS . Che Guevara was a bloody butcher and aided in making Cuba a slave state . Your heroes tell a lot about you , Ron . You need help , my man.
Ron

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Oh dear, I mis-spelled tyrannical. The world will surely stop spinning because of that most grievous and serious of faults.

I teach writing at a university in Ohio. One of the things we always do is learn how to think critically. This is something that you cannot do, Harry Odil. It's interesting that your idea of "defending freedom in Iraq" is included here. A defense of freedom would imply that freedom existed in the first place. It did not. Frankly put, not all countries are ready for democracy, just like not all democracies are ready for socialism. Under Saddam Hussein there was stability-- all we have done is aggravate an old wound that festers in the hearts of Muslims worldwide. Until we keep our nose out of their business, we will always be hated and our efforts will meet with NO success.

I applaud your brother's service in WWII. Our involvement there was quite needed, since Hitler needed to be stopped and most of Europe asked for our help. We had to fight against Japan due to the fact that they were planning an invasion. However, we didn't need to use the nuclear bomb. We had been winning the war, demolishing Japanese naval capabilities while inching our way towards Tokyo. There are reports that the Japanese were going to surrender anyway.

All that we did in bombing Hiroshima and Nagasaki is 1) begin the nuclear arms race, 2) begin the Cold War, 3) sow seeds of distrust in those countries that differ from America ideologically, and 4) burn a million Japanese to death where they stood.

Overall, Truman was a good president. But he also has a lot of blood on his hands.

With regards to Mao, Justin, the jury is still out. He did engage in political persecution, but the numbers are uncertain. In China overall he is hailed as the savior of the country, not a ruthless murderer. I'm willing to concede, though, that he also has a lot of blood on his hands. So without further ado, here's my personal top 10 list of the bloodiest leaders in recent history (in no particular order).

1. George W. Bush (invasion of Iraq)
2. Harry S. Truman (authorization of nuclear deployment)
3. Josef Stalin (genocide of ethnic Ukranians)
4. Idi Amin (persecution in Uganda)
5. Adolf Hitler (authorization of the Holocaust)
6. Robert Mugabe (aggravated persecution of whites in Zimbabwe)
7. Pol Pot (ethnic persecution during the Khemer Rouge of Cambodia)
8. The Catholic Church (centuries of persecution of Jews and Muslims)
9. Slobodan Milosevic (persecution of Ethnic Albanians in the former Yuguslavia)
10. Kambanda and Akanyesu (genocide in Rwanda)

Che was a great poltiical theorist and physician. Yes he helped create communism in Cuba. Most Cubans seem happy with their way of life.

But can we get back to the topic at hand: healthcare reform? Canada's healthcare system is cheaper than ours and provides better care. The same thing is true of 36 other nations on the planet according to the World Health Organization. Among many others, Costa Rica, Israel, the United Arab Emirates and Saudi Arabia have better standards of healthcare than the United States.
Harry Odil

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Ron , all I can say is the Communist leaders were right about you . My brother was in the South Pacific and it was common knowledge that the Japs (oops , PI) would fight to the last man and it would cost hundreds of thousands of lives to successfully invade Japan . The fact that you rank Hitler below Mr. Bush shows your total ignorance (6,000,000 deaths because of Hitler )of history. Che was not a great anything except a butcher . If the Cubans are so happy (terrified) why do they risk their lives to come to America. My jury is not out on Mao , a bloody butcher . If he only murdered 20,000,000 men , does that make him a humanitarian?
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You are not qualified to judge critical thinking , you are extremely qualified to spread your lies and revision of history and hate Anerica , blame America first crap . America has liberated millions of people because of the sacrifice of brave Americans of which you would not make a pimple on their bottoms .
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Ron

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Jeez, Harry. I said "in no particular order". Read carefully, my friend, before you become a jackass.

Yeah, I'd rather blame America first instead of blaming other countries. Most of the problems that we have we have brought upon ourselves. Iran, Iraq, or North Korea are not to blame for our economic woes. They aren't the reason that blacks were enslaved for 300 years. What's the line from MacBeth? The faults lie not within the stars but within ourselves?

Also Harry: 1) I never lie, 2) History is always subject to revision, and 3) I don't hate America. I'm not always that proud of America, but I don't hate it. Turn of Rush Limbaugh and open your mind to formulating independent thoughts on the topics. If you want we can start our own thread and trade jabs back and forth. But in the meantime, what do you think of our healthcare system?
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Ron wrote:
Don't know how to break this to you, but Karl Marx was an economic theorist. Not a tyrant or dictator. Che Quevara was a revolutionary, not a dictator.

How many people did Mao Zedong kill?

Not many.

ARE YOU OUT OF YOUR MIND ?

But there are a few names missing from your list of tyrranical leaders: George W. Bush, Jefferson Davis, Adolf Hitler, Harry S. Truman (sadly, but yes). Each of these men were responsible for many deaths as well.
this post contains stupidity on a level never before witnessed by mankind, it brings ignorance and political hucksterism to new heights. Hopefully this guy will meet a nice man and forget all this left wing malarky.
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willing to serve wrote:
well by all means then lets turn all control over to the Peoples Democratic Republic of the Americas led by Comrade President Obama. You people are as stupid as delusional if you think our situation is going to improve with the spending that is now taking place. The time for talking is quickly coming to an end!!
we have to make sure that retards and watchers who feel they control everyone else arent the only ones receiving federal funds
Ron

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Nice use of the derogatory "retard", haha. Anything intelligent to contribute? Or at least, do you care to explain exactly what you mean? I'm trying to figure out what a 'watcher' is.

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