Do you think Marijuana should be Legalized?

Wally Grif wrote:

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Well it's not that I disagree with your points but lets not get all caught up in the term medical purposes, someone may get the idea to make us all prove we have a medical reason for smoking it, and personally I would just like to catch a buzz off of a few bong hits instead of a case of beer. I would just like to sit around my big screen, watching a good movie, and smoke a fatty, and relax. As for crack and speed, well I say if you have to manufacture it, it is out, no can do. But, if you can throw some seeds out your back door and grow it, then make it legal. Hey if god gave it to us, who are we to say, no one can smoke it, eat it, or drink it? I think all that grows has its place if used in moderation.

I so completely agree with you! However, I can hear the nay sayers saying "tobacco grows, but it isn't good for you". What do we say to that?

As a matter of fact, just this morning it was reported that a study was done using tobacco (not smoked, as a vaccine) to help fight cancer and (I could not believe it), 70% of the patients in the study had excellent results. I do not know the specifics, like what they extracted from the tobacco to make the vaccine, or exactly how it worked on the body and the disease, but it did work.
I am not saying that I think tobacco is good or even fine to use, but this comment is probably going to be the rebuttal to your message.

Good one!!

My beloved son, who was majoring in engineering in college and getting straight A's for the first three years, just got out of rehab for marijuana addiction (don't say this can't happen because he is proof!!) His last year of college was spent in a drugged state and his marks went down to F's. He finally dropped out of school and wandered around, losing his car and his apartment. The money I spent on rehab for him ($1,000 a DAY for 28 days) could have been spent on paying for his master's degree. He now has no degree, no job, no car, and is living with "friends". This young man showed so much potential and now he is living the life of a bum. Yeah, let's legalize marijuana so this can happen to other people's children. Good idea!!!!!

Ginger cookies wrote:

My beloved son, who was majoring in engineering in college and getting straight A's for the first three years, just got out of rehab for marijuana addiction (don't say this can't happen because he is proof!!) His last year of college was spent in a drugged state and his marks went down to F's. He finally dropped out of school and wandered around, losing his car and his apartment. The money I spent on rehab for him ($1,000 a DAY for 28 days) could have been spent on paying for his master's degree. He now has no degree, no job, no car, and is living with "friends". This young man showed so much potential and now he is living the life of a bum. Yeah, let's legalize marijuana so this can happen to other people's children. Good idea!!!!!

What's this about your son not having one iota of PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY?!

Ginger cookies wrote:

My beloved son, who was majoring in engineering in college and getting straight A's for the first three years, just got out of rehab for marijuana addiction (don't say this can't happen because he is proof!!) His last year of college was spent in a drugged state and his marks went down to F's. He finally dropped out of school and wandered around, losing his car and his apartment. The money I spent on rehab for him ($1,000 a DAY for 28 days) could have been spent on paying for his master's degree. He now has no degree, no job, no car, and is living with "friends". This young man showed so much potential and now he is living the life of a bum. Yeah, let's legalize marijuana so this can happen to other people's children. Good idea!!!!!

I am so sorry to hear this. You must be going through hell.
Is there a chance there is something he is not telling you, like did he use any other drugs (including alcohol)when he was using marijuana? Due do the new confidentiality laws for 18-year-olds and the medical confidentiality laws, he is the only one who may tell you the circumstances of his addiction and hospitalization, even if you are paying for it.
Another concern would definitely be the "friends" he is staying with now, as you probably have already thought of. It is essential to his recovery that he not be overexposed to any addictive substances for at least a year, perhaps the rest of his life-only he will know.

I guess I should say that my interest in this thread is a professional one. I will not say what all my drugs of choice are, but first and foremost is caffeine.

My interest in this thread has to do with our personal freedoms. I am truly concerned with what has happened to some of our constitutional rights under the present administration. I think that the future of our country and what Thomas Jefferson and his cohorts dreamed of, is in danger of becoming extinct.

Ginger Spice-I know what you are going through, I've seen it and been through it first-hand. You have done everything humanly possible to treat (there is no cure for addiction)your son's disease. The best things you can do for him now, I'm sure have been drummed into your soul by the rehab center staff (assuming you receive extensive family therapy/counseling as part of your $1000 a day fee-do you, you should?) At this point, he has to own his problems/feelings, you have enough to deal with from your own.
If I have been too forward or invasive, I apologize from the bottom of my heart and beg your forgiveness.

Oldhead wrote:

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I so completely agree with you! However, I can hear the nay sayers saying "tobacco grows, but it isn't good for you". What do we say to that?
As a matter of fact, just this morning it was reported that a study was done using tobacco (not smoked, as a vaccine) to help fight cancer and (I could not believe it), 70% of the patients in the study had excellent results. I do not know the specifics, like what they extracted from the tobacco to make the vaccine, or exactly how it worked on the body and the disease, but it did work.
I am not saying that I think tobacco is good or even fine to use, but this comment is probably going to be the rebuttal to your message.
Good one!!

I believe tobacco is legal already isn't it!
So I would say yes tobacco is way worse and yet it is legal, so whats the problem with our argument to legalize weed.(Not all the hard drugs nay sayers love to associate with plain old bud)

whos next wrote:

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I believe tobacco is legal already isn't it!
So I would say yes tobacco is way worse and yet it is legal, so whats the problem with our argument to legalize weed.(Not all the hard drugs nay sayers love to associate with plain old bud)

I'm sorry, I should have made it clearer that I was only addressing the last line, which justified using pot by saying, basically, that everything that grows was okay to use in moderation. I think people will try to prove that premise wrong by using tobacco as an example.


(Wally Grif wrote:) "I think all that grows has its place if used in moderation."

My bad-sorry.

Who is the idiot(s) that keep judging everything as nuts and clueless? Get a life.

OhNoNO wrote:

Who is the idiot(s) that keep judging everything as nuts and clueless? Get a life.

I would assume they aren't going to answer your question as they obviously don't have the gonads to make comments of any kind.

OhNoNO wrote:

Who is the idiot(s) that keep judging everything as nuts and clueless? Get a life.

Well, when statistics and logic are presented, clearly "nuts", "clueless", and "mean" are perfectly legitimate rebuttals.

Paul wrote:

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Well, when statistics and logic are presented, clearly "nuts", "clueless", and "mean" are perfectly legitimate rebuttals.

Lol, clearly

Funny, someone judge mine like that. To be expected.

No my grandpa was a corpsman in 3rd marines during Vietnam- said pot and LSD got a lot of soldiers killed or wounded. Im only 16 but think it hurts people more than it helps.

I think it's most likely the person from Indianapolis, they post under various aliases (BS BS BS BS / Stupid Argument and so forth).

If you track the history of this thread, there were times were it was down to that person and someone else, and somehow the Indianapolis's person was always ranked favorably and the opponent's unfavorably.

Inferential though, only inference.

Tobacco IS legal and it murder's millions!
So why all the krap about pot?

I don't use either, by the way. Inhaling anything into your lungs is just plain stupid, but so is making something illegal and something else, just as bad or worse, legal.

US law is just plain idiotic.

The Bruiser wrote:

No my grandpa was a corpsman in 3rd marines during Vietnam- said pot and LSD got a lot of soldiers killed or wounded. Im only 16 but think it hurts people more than it helps.

Well, of course being blazed isn't going to help in a battle zone.

Art wrote:

Tobacco IS legal and it murder's millions!
So why all the krap about pot?

Because Tobacco, like Alcohol, and Caffeine, are socially acceptable among white, mainstream America. Subconsciously, cannabis is illegal because people don't like a counterculture.

Paul wrote:

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Because Tobacco, like Alcohol, and Caffeine, are socially acceptable among white, mainstream America. Subconsciously, cannabis is illegal because people don't like a counterculture.

Good point!

When I'm stoned I can deep throat a bigger and longer cock then when I'm sober.... That alone is reason for legalization...

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FrankIrvingstoned wrote:

When I'm stoned I can deep throat a bigger and longer cock then when I'm sober.... That alone is reason for legalization...
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Well, that's five seconds of my life I'll never get back.

Paul wrote:

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Well, that's five seconds of my life I'll never get back.

or all thats a Hallucinization!