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Raleigh County, WV

Oct 3, 2007

Nurses Take to Streets for Third Day of Labor Dispute

Posted Wednesday, October 3, 2007 ; 09:09 PM Updated Wednesday, October 3, 2007 ; 11:54 PM Union sites staffing as their main grievance Bio HINTON -- Registered nurses lined the streets in Raleigh and Summers ... via WVNS-TV

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Oct 8, 2007
 
Losers
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Oct 9, 2007
 
Seriously, they need to get back inside and do their jobs, or they should all be replaced. They should just appreciate the fact that they have a job with benefits. UNGRATEFUL!!!!!!!1
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Oct 9, 2007
 
From what I hear they are being replaced.

The thing that gets me is, they are supposedly striking for better patient care, yet they walked out on the patients and are standing by the road holding a sign while ambulances go right past them carrying sick, injured people into "their" hospital and they just sit there.

Makes no sense to me. I agree, they are very ungrateful and selfish. Everybody should be thankful that Hinton, unlike many small communities in WV and this country, even has a hospital.
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Oct 9, 2007
 
I know. How in the world can they say they are concerned with patients and walk out on them? They should feel fortunate to have a good job in Hinton.
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Oct 9, 2007
 
mtneer wrote:
From what I hear they are being replaced.
The thing that gets me is, they are supposedly striking for better patient care, yet they walked out on the patients and are standing by the road holding a sign while ambulances go right past them carrying sick, injured people into "their" hospital and they just sit there.
Makes no sense to me. I agree, they are very ungrateful and selfish. Everybody should be thankful that Hinton, unlike many small communities in WV and this country, even has a hospital.
did you say that when hospital employees were out on strike a few months ago? Do you ever thank a nurse for the care they give you or your family members? Go do the work of a nurse and then say how ungrateful they are. It's the other way around.
Hinton hospital is a band-aid station.
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Oct 9, 2007
 
I agree about the hospital being a band-aid station and yes I did say much the same thing when the other workers were on strike. I do, like many others I'm sure, appreciate all health care workers, however, I firmly believe that they are all fortunate to have the jobs that they have. They knew the pay, hours involved and working conditions when they chose their positions and because they now feel that they have "unfair working conditions" it is unfair to their patients to just walk-out. Striking is not the answer to improving patient healthcare as they claim their motivation to be.
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Oct 9, 2007
 
Yes, I did say that during the strike a few months ago. Anybody who walks out on their job in a hospital has the patient's care furthest from their mind. There are many thankless jobs in this world, but does that mean you can just walk out on them for your own selfish reasons?

I am always polite and thank anybody who provides me with anything that I need. This goes for the waitress refilling my drink to a nurse or whoever.

Hinton's hospital may not be as large as other hospitals or offer more advanced procedures, but the staff there are extremely knowledgeable and know what they're doing. You seem like you would be the person to criticize the hospital for everything they don't do, but be the first one to kick and scream because the community doesn't have a hospital.
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Oct 9, 2007
 
mtneer wrote:
Yes, I did say that during the strike a few months ago. Anybody who walks out on their job in a hospital has the patient's care furthest from their mind. There are many thankless jobs in this world, but does that mean you can just walk out on them for your own selfish reasons?
I am always polite and thank anybody who provides me with anything that I need. This goes for the waitress refilling my drink to a nurse or whoever.
Hinton's hospital may not be as large as other hospitals or offer more advanced procedures, but the staff there are extremely knowledgeable and know what they're doing. You seem like you would be the person to criticize the hospital for everything they don't do, but be the first one to kick and scream because the community doesn't have a hospital.
I know exactly what it's like to live in a community with no hospital. People die before they get to one many miles away. People would do well to remember that when they critize our health care workers for wanting better.
I guess you never wanted better working conditions, better pay, better health care, none of those benefits. You'd just let others fight for you and complain but when they won you'd reaped the benefits.

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Oct 9, 2007
 
amen thank you have returned 2!!!
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Oct 9, 2007
 
Havereturned2 wrote:
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I know exactly what it's like to live in a community with no hospital. People die before they get to one many miles away. People would do well to remember that when they critize our health care workers for wanting better.
I guess you never wanted better working conditions, better pay, better health care, none of those benefits. You'd just let others fight for you and complain but when they won you'd reaped the benefits.
Communities that don't have hospitals has nothing to do with this strike. Why should the fact that places like Monroe County not having a Hospital influence our opinions of THESE workers walking out of THIS hospital? Nothing, that's what. Just because of Summers County is fortunate enough to have a hospital when other communities don't, doesn't justify a strike. Fact is, these nurses want "better working conditions" i.e. less over-time and more money, and for them to have less over-time would require more staff and more salaries, if all the workers up there continue to think they are entitled to or deserve more, Summers County won't have a hospital either, it will be shut down due to the fact that it costs more to staff it and run it than it can legitimately support through the services it provides.

Many of us who have jobs, in numerous fields that don't have the luxury of being able to say "I don't like this anymore, let's stop working till we get what we want". Like I said before, they knew what the job was, hours, pay, conditions... before they took it. I have worked in an office for ten years, raises, bonuses, etc. are at the discretion of the owner/boss. I can't pick up a picket sign and stand outside because my boss won't give me a raise that I "THINK" I deserve. That's not sitting back and letting someone else fight for what I "THINK" I deserve, that's doing the job that I agreed to do to begin with and thanking God that I have it.
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Oct 9, 2007
 
I think there are other ways to get what you want besides striking and walking off the job. The RN's are screaming how they are all concerned for patient care, which if they were concerned for the patients in the hospitals and believed in the oath they took when they became RNs, they would be inside the hospital working. Am I criticizing those RN's for doing what they are doing? Yes, I am. For a town like Hinton, they should be thankful they have a nice paying job with good benefits.

ARH is hiring full-time replacement workers and are not budging on this contract. If the RN's are smart, they would go ahead and go back to work or else they are going to be without a job if/when this strike ends.

Everyone wants better pay, better benefits, etc. You cannot please everybody and if a company gave in to every single thing employees think they need, the companies wouldn't be around long. I made a commitment to my employer when I took my job and I am not going to just walk off and go on strike. If I do not like the way they are doing things, I will leave and find another job. No matter where you work though, there is always going to be something your employer is doing that you don't agree with.
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Oct 9, 2007
 
Chris wrote:
I agree about the hospital being a band-aid station and yes I did say much the same thing when the other workers were on strike. I do, like many others I'm sure, appreciate all health care workers, however, I firmly believe that they are all fortunate to have the jobs that they have. They knew the pay, hours involved and working conditions when they chose their positions and because they now feel that they have "unfair working conditions" it is unfair to their patients to just walk-out. Striking is not the answer to improving patient healthcare as they claim their motivation to be.
Chris,
I feel compelled to aomment back on this. A few months ago when the other strike occured, it was due to the ARH directors wanting to cut pay and benefits while negotiating a new contract. The workers weren't asking for raises, only that they wouldn't lose anything. My mother was on the strike committee, and she hated not being able to be there for the patients. She is part of a Union that didn't want to get ripped off because some corpration wanted to cut corners.
They settled after awhile, but there were still changes made to the contract for new hires and currently employed strikers as well.
If you dont stand beside the Union you will have nothing in the end.
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Oct 10, 2007
 
Chris wrote:
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Communities that don't have hospitals has nothing to do with this strike. Why should the fact that places like Monroe County not having a Hospital influence our opinions of THESE workers walking out of THIS hospital? Nothing, that's what. Just because of Summers County is fortunate enough to have a hospital when other communities don't, doesn't justify a strike. Fact is, these nurses want "better working conditions" i.e. less over-time and more money, and for them to have less over-time would require more staff and more salaries, if all the workers up there continue to think they are entitled to or deserve more, Summers County won't have a hospital either, it will be shut down due to the fact that it costs more to staff it and run it than it can legitimately support through the services it provides.
Many of us who have jobs, in numerous fields that don't have the luxury of being able to say "I don't like this anymore, let's stop working till we get what we want". Like I said before, they knew what the job was, hours, pay, conditions... before they took it. I have worked in an office for ten years, raises, bonuses, etc. are at the discretion of the owner/boss. I can't pick up a picket sign and stand outside because my boss won't give me a raise that I "THINK" I deserve. That's not sitting back and letting someone else fight for what I "THINK" I deserve, that's doing the job that I agreed to do to begin with and thanking God that I have it.
So the answer is that they work more hours than what was origninally agreed upon, poor working conditions and forget the money. Just because you think that the hospital would waste money by hiring extra help for them. The nurses should just get down on their knees and thank the CEO that they were let work under these conditions. Will you complain when a nurse comes into your room looking like she has worked for a week non- stop and forget what she came in there for? Oh wait, that's their fault because they had the audacity to want better working conditions.

Better pay should only go for the doctors when they come into your room and say "Hi, How are you" and you never seen him before in your life. You go home and get a $300 bill from him. That's good health care, uh.
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Oct 10, 2007
 
mtneer wrote:
I think there are other ways to get what you want besides striking and walking off the job. The RN's are screaming how they are all concerned for patient care, which if they were concerned for the patients in the hospitals and believed in the oath they took when they became RNs, they would be inside the hospital working. Am I criticizing those RN's for doing what they are doing? Yes, I am. For a town like Hinton, they should be thankful they have a nice paying job with good benefits.
ARH is hiring full-time replacement workers and are not budging on this contract. If the RN's are smart, they would go ahead and go back to work or else they are going to be without a job if/when this strike ends.
Everyone wants better pay, better benefits, etc. You cannot please everybody and if a company gave in to every single thing employees think they need, the companies wouldn't be around long. I made a commitment to my employer when I took my job and I am not going to just walk off and go on strike. If I do not like the way they are doing things, I will leave and find another job. No matter where you work though, there is always going to be something your employer is doing that you don't agree with.
You just stay in your fantasy world and bow down to your employers and be glad you have a job. When you come up to retirement and have changed so many jobs, don't cry when your check isn't much because you didn't stay at a job long enough to pay into retirement. All because you didn't want to ask for a raise or better working conditions even though the employer reneged on what their original committment to you when you were hired.
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Oct 10, 2007
 
bravo have returned 2 when your overworked and overtired that's when mistakes happen.a person can overwork so long befor exhaustioned sets in i know i done been there and done it several times people need to thank the lord that the nurses are on the picket line fighting for their patients health and safety be more supportive of them instead of complaining about them been on strike take time out of your busy life and bring them some food and water and say thank you for putting our life first above your income i just bet you they will appreciate it
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Oct 10, 2007
 
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bravo have returned 2 when your overworked and overtired that's when mistakes happen.a person can overwork so long befor exhaustioned sets in i know i done been there and done it several times people need to thank the lord that the nurses are on the picket line fighting for their patients health and safety be more supportive of them instead of complaining about them been on strike take time out of your busy life and bring them some food and water and say thank you for putting our life first above your income i just bet you they will appreciate it
You seriously think the nurses are putting the patient's lives first above their own selfish reasons?? What world do you people live in where you think it is OK to walk out of a hospital leaving behind sick and dying humans to stand beside the road and hold a sign and claim you're doing it for the patients???? I do not understand this logic. You are not there for the patients, you are there for more money and less work. Quit saying you're striking for better patient care because it's a lie. If you were the slightest bit concerned for the patients you would be IN THE HOSPITAL CARING FOR THEM!!

If these hospitals staffed enough employees to cover when somebody called in sick, they would be out of business in no time. When patient counts are down and they have 4 nurses standing around doing nothing and try to send some of them home everybody will be kicking and screaming about that.
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Oct 10, 2007
 
you think so do you try walking in thier shoes one day then shoot your mouth off. have you ever cared for the sick and dieing probably not or you would not be saying such stupied stuff they don't staff enough people as it is let alone cover when someone is sick.

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Oct 10, 2007
 
The cost of healthcare is already ridiculous. So hiring more nurses AND paying them more is supposed to help us as patients? I think not. If they do that they'll have to charge admission just to pull in the hospital parking lot. These nurses are going to have to give a little. If they want more staff then they are going to have to take less pay. If they want to be selfish and make more money then they'll have to take on more work to earn it. You can't have your cake and eat it too...
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Oct 10, 2007
 
tinkerbell wrote:
you think so do you try walking in thier shoes one day then shoot your mouth off. have you ever cared for the sick and dieing probably not or you would not be saying such stupied stuff they don't staff enough people as it is let alone cover when someone is sick.
Absolutely!! People like these will complain about anything. Actually, it's not for more money it's for better working conditions. They might like 1 1/2 times over 40 hours and multiply that by all the nurses. It's hard on the body after awhile.
Why should they work 40+hr weeks while these idiots can be at home all cozy with their families. Maybe the nurses should go to other hospitals where they are treated with respect. Let people take their parents home and take care of them themselves. They'd be hollering then. We need nurses!!! Sheesh!
They make it like the nurses have just walked out and left the patients, but what they don't say is the LPN's are there and some of the RN's have came back to take care of patients. Let the doctors wipe a few butts. They'd show some respect after while.
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Oct 10, 2007
 
they sure would but you know its takes a special kind of person to take care of the sick and dyeing patients we become attached to them and it is a thankless and heartbreaking job but we do it because we love caring for people and we wash butt with pride.
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