Tucson Needs Safety, Not Help for Youth

Art groups tend to host a lot of pedophiles and since NAMBLA has a strong presence in Tucson they use art as a way to get at young children.

If Tucson really wanted kids to get into are they would give each kid a free coloring book and a box of crayons and tell their parents to keep them home after school rather than running the streets wreaking havoc.

Froma wrote:

Art groups tend to host a lot of pedophiles and since NAMBLA has a strong presence in Tucson they use art as a way to get at young children.
If Tucson really wanted kids to get into are they would give each kid a free coloring book and a box of crayons and tell their parents to keep them home after school rather than running the streets wreaking havoc.

Glad to see someone else who cares about kids. I've taken part in programs that actually have supplied great coloring books to children, free, by the truck loads. I do not know what NAMBLA is? As we're discussing in other forums here; the poorer schools are in rough shape, as well as, many of their Children. Safety in Tucson would be enhanced with healthier children.

The Parents are in rough shape too ~ so the children are getting taught really bad ideas coming in from all directions. As I've said before, and many agree ~ each one of us needs to step up to the plate & take at minimum, 1 step towards helping another who is in worse shape than we are. If they won't accept, or respond; there are plenty of others who just might. If just one gets on a positive track, there's one more to grab the hand of one more. It really works. There's not a financial pay-off; and it does take personal time, commitment & responsibility, however, the long term pay-off is truly priceless.

I'm all for spending money on the kids. I'd rather spend on the kids than on imates. The cost per inmate per year is about $40K. The cost per student per year is about $1.5K. Tell me what's wrong with this picture? Looks like abstract art.

I vote The Boot. Spending 30k per kid would be fantastic; while still leaving plently of money to divide the inmates based on Drug Crimes, Peverted Crimes, White Collar Crimes & Violent Crimes!

Vote Boot!

There ain't no Boot who didn't ever do a good job!

Give them The Boot!

If we would give time limits on appeals for criminals and up the death penalty, and deport all illegal criminals then maybe we wouldn't be spending so much money for those bastards.

By the way, the cost per school child is closer to 8,000-10,000 per child annually.

Froma wrote:

If we would give time limits on appeals for criminals and up the death penalty, and deport all illegal criminals then maybe we wouldn't be spending so much money for those bastards.
By the way, the cost per school child is closer to 8,000-10,000 per child annually.

I think we're all in agreement on the core issue in terms of educating our children needs to be a worthy investment of time, money & resouces. The time limit on appeals along with expediting death penalty decisions could weed out our Justice system enough to get it unclogged. The deportation of illegals is another very large can of worms. I've had the feeling for a long time all the chatter about this from our Officials is just that. Like with too many other major issues, a solid decision is never made & upheld.

Yeah, if you google it, you get $9866 per child for public school expenses.

I'm a little curious as to where this number comes from? I had a kid in a private school and the cost was roughly $4800 per year in tuition.

Are public schools more expensive than private schools? When did this start happening? I must have been asleep. Boy, I was ripped off on the private school for the kid.

Regardless of whether it is $1500 or $10000. It is still quite a bit less than what we spend per criminal. The future, I can see being worth even $40K/student. The criminals of the world, I can't justify spending $2 on.

REspectfully,

The Boot!

Interesting observation that it costs more money to school a kid publicaly...hmmmm? We've got to clean up our Justice system before justification can be made on what to spend for an inmate. First things First. Too many innocent victims of the system are caged in a system where they are being trained in how to beat the system that put them there. Recipe for Disaster. How's about a fresh recipe?

It costs more to fund public education because they have larger number of employees, school bus transportation is included and larger facilities. Also public schools must cover the cost for free lunches and supplies for disadvantage children. In private schools if you can't afford the tuition they aren't going to let you in so they don't cover the cost of any poor kids.

Guys, the overall cost of funding public education is higher, but it's due to numbers.

The bottom line is that it is so much more expensive to support an inmate for 1 yr than it is to educate a kid for 1 yr.

Just to be clear. Cost for 1 inmate for 1 yr is approx.$40,000 (give or take a tiny bit). The cost for 1 student for 1 yr is approx.$1,500 (give or take a bit).

Someone posted much higher numbers for educating kids, however, from having a kid in a private school, I know that the cost is no more than $5000 per student. Public school per student is much lower.

Point of all this is how can we justify spending so much money on people that you cannot rehabilitate, regardless of the expenditure.

Kids can be molded however you want and are the future of the USA. This is where the money should be spent.

Less than 2% of our students attend charter schools.
Please read this, sign it and pass this along
eduction is not for greed.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/arizona-char...

Done! I personally do not like charter schools. They tend to be run by people who hire their kids and brothers/cousins, etc.

As private businesses, there should be no public benefits at all.

is not for greed wrote:

Less than 2% of our students attend charter schools.
Please read this, sign it and pass this along
eduction is not for greed.
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/arizona-char...

Education: now there's a good idea.

I'd say that rules for hiring people for charter schools should be the same as they are in public schools.

W/r to teaching in public schools. We are so funny in thinking that because we have college trained teachers that they are qualified to teach. We need to look into other ways of teaching. We should consider using people with real life xperience in schools

Mix it up a little.

I'll give an example. I could have two people teaching a subject like general physics. One person is a person with a college degree and no practical experience. The other is an inventor w/out a degree, but with success as an inventor. These two people would go about teaching in very differnt ways. Maybe a mix of real life and theory is what we need.

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Boot wrote:

I'd say that rules for hiring people for charter schools should be the same as they are in public schools.
W/r to teaching in public schools. We are so funny in thinking that because we have college trained teachers that they are qualified to teach. We need to look into other ways of teaching. We should consider using people with real life xperience in schools
Mix it up a little.
I'll give an example. I could have two people teaching a subject like general physics. One person is a person with a college degree and no practical experience. The other is an inventor w/out a degree, but with success as an inventor. These two people would go about teaching in very differnt ways. Maybe a mix of real life and theory is what we need.
blah blah blah

Real Life with Theory would give our youth living & thinking skills. Yes. Count on my vote.

You can't just have theory. For years, I hired people straight out of college and spent 3 yrs teaching them what real life had to offer. This should be taken care of in the schools. Kids would be so much more valuable.

These are the future of our country, why not spend more money on them.

Boot wrote:

You can't just have theory. For years, I hired people straight out of college and spent 3 yrs teaching them what real life had to offer. This should be taken care of in the schools. Kids would be so much more valuable.
These are the future of our country, why not spend more money on them.

That holds true in so many professions. When I asked the purpose of the education; the answer was to show they could apply themselves & stay on course. Okay, so it would make complete sense to teach them hand's on while learning Theory!

You got it good buddy! There has got to be more hands-on in schools. There should be project classes throughout the entire K-12. Projects for building things. This stimulates people's ability to solve problems.

Good call.