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Morganelli calls on attorney general to require lost, stolen ha...

Morganelli, a five-term Northampton County district attorney, said Pennsylvania 's consumer protection laws give the attorney general the power to draw up regulations forcing gun owners to alert authorities ...

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May 7, 2008
 
Maybe Morganelli should focus on the gang problem in Northampton County. Didn't he have convince County Council to add the position of gang investigator to his county detectives? How many gang related arrests has this new detective made since this position was created? Does anybody know?
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May 7, 2008
 
Morganelli cited the chapter and verse of state law that he claims empowers Corbett to act. He said the statute must be liberally interpreted, so it could include ''the regulation of firearms as consumer products.''
Of course a liberal would make this statement. The ignorance of Demorats is mind boggling.
Democrats believe they have their best chance this year to end three decades of Republican domination of the attorney general's office.
Not if my vote has anything to say about it.

Why are the Democrats so afraid of doing the things neccessary to lock these sociapaths up forever? In the case of homicide, no plea bargain and minimum 20 years without parole for the 3rd degree murder. Life without parole for 2nd and 1st degree murder.
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May 7, 2008
 
Northampton County has grown increasingly dangerous and more violent during Morganelli's time as DA. Now he wants to work his magic statewide?

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May 7, 2008
 
2nd amendment wrote:
Why are the Democrats so afraid of doing the things neccessary to lock these sociapaths up forever? In the case of homicide, no plea bargain and minimum 20 years without parole for the 3rd degree murder. Life without parole for 2nd and 1st degree murder.
Did you miss the part in the article that said Republicans have held the AG office for the past 30 years? It would seem there is plenty of blame to go around if that's the game you want to play.

I'm all for stricter penalties for crimes involving guns, but until you free up some room by allowing non-violent offenders to go free, that isn't going to happen.

Also, I have to agree that a "report" law is a necessary tool to help stem the tide of guns in the black market. As I've always claimed, there seem to be many, many "law-abiding" gun owners who are no such thing.

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May 7, 2008
 
Morganelli, a five-term Northampton County district attorney, said Pennsylvania's consumer protection laws give the attorney general the power ........Morganelli LOVES the " POWER "......Hey John, clean up your gang infested county before you start throwing stones,,,AGAIN at others.
Look how bad the gangs have gotten under John Morganelli's terms....
This power hungry, soapbox seeking guy is amazing
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May 7, 2008
 
Another Liberal out to get you guns. Make sure you vote against this guy
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May 7, 2008
 
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Did you miss the part in the article that said Republicans have held the AG office for the past 30 years? It would seem there is plenty of blame to go around if that's the game you want to play.
I'm all for stricter penalties for crimes involving guns, but until you free up some room by allowing non-violent offenders to go free, that isn't going to happen.
Also, I have to agree that a "report" law is a necessary tool to help stem the tide of guns in the black market. As I've always claimed, there seem to be many, many "law-abiding" gun owners who are no such thing.
Really Steve? Please do explain to me what LEO's do now with reports of lost or stolen firearms?

The recent cop shooting in Filthadelphia is proof they know where that firearm was purchased and by whom. Just how is this mandatory reporting law proposal going to help in light of these facts?

I disagree with your assertion that crimes with guns should be punished more severely. ALL violent crimes, regardless of the tool which includes fists, should be held to the same sentence.

Legalize and regulate intoxicant drugs and you will free up plenty of prison space for violent offenders. You're right, it won't happen because the Democrats are too muchlikepussies.
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May 7, 2008
 
Morganelli is a dangerous man.
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May 7, 2008
 
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Make sure you vote against this guy
That's a given for me!
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May 7, 2008
 
I just don't see how a law like this is going to change anything. It seems like a lot of fluff.
If you are a concerned citizen, why wouldn't you report your gun missing or stolen? If a person wouldn't before- they probably have sketchy reasons to not do so. So, why would they with this law? What a waste of time and money to push this.
BTW, I am a democrat who, in addition to suggesting a gun for my mother's day gift, did not and would not vote for JM. There's something about that guy.....
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May 7, 2008
 
How long does it take voteres to see through career politicians.Eastern PA leads the state in gun crime. Should be gun crime is crime,you shoot with the intent to kill(this is not the movies) loose your rights if you have any.
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May 7, 2008
 
And how exactly does this stop a criminal? Instead this "law" would make the average citizen a criminal. Absolutely insane! The new gun laws introduced in Philly sure didn't seem to help the poor officer that was just shot and killed. Yet more laws restricting a citizens rights will help? Exactly how?
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May 7, 2008
 
OK Mr. Morganelli here is the senario.
I go on vacation. My house is broken into and they steal my guns. I report it a week later. Now I am in violation of your law?
This guy is really dangerous.

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May 7, 2008
 
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OK Mr. Morganelli here is the senario.
I go on vacation. My house is broken into and they steal my guns. I report it a week later. Now I am in violation of your law?
If you come home, discover they're missing, then wait a week to report it, yes.

If you come home from a month away, discover they're missing, and file a timely report, no. Regardless of when the theft occurred, the time frame comes into play when you discover the fact that they're gone.

This isn't rocket science.

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May 7, 2008
 
2nd amendment wrote:
The recent cop shooting in Filthadelphia is proof they know where that firearm was purchased and by whom.
I don't know all the facts regarding this gun, but from what I understand, the assault rifle used was legally purchased at a gun show 16 years ago by someone not involved with the crime. I'm not sure what happened to it from that time on, but my guess is somewhere along the line it will be claimed by someone that it was "stolen".

The problem is when a gun is claimed to be stolen only after the gun is used in a crime and traced back to it's last known "legal" owner. That's bull. Those irresponsible people (I'll hold off calling them criminals until they're convicted) need to be held accountable for at least reporting their guns stolen.

I have no problem with the RIGHT to own guns. I do have a problem when people are not RESPONSIBLE with that right.
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May 7, 2008
 
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I disagree with your assertion that crimes with guns should be punished more severely. ALL violent crimes, regardless of the tool which includes fists, should be held to the same sentence.
You are off-base here. Everyone has fists or can easily obtain a bat, knife, whatever. But possessing a firearm is a special right reserved for those with a clean record. Most - the vast majority - of crimes committed with firearms that are NOT legally possessed - and therefore these crimes should be treated much more harshly. This is the appropriate answer to the gun problem - creating more laws that impact legal gun owners/users in NOT the answer.
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May 7, 2008
 
steve-2304 wrote:
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I don't know all the facts regarding this gun, but from what I understand, the assault rifle used was legally purchased at a gun show 16 years ago by someone not involved with the crime. I'm not sure what happened to it from that time on, but my guess is somewhere along the line it will be claimed by someone that it was "stolen".
The problem is when a gun is claimed to be stolen only after the gun is used in a crime and traced back to it's last known "legal" owner. That's bull. Those irresponsible people (I'll hold off calling them criminals until they're convicted) need to be held accountable for at least reporting their guns stolen.
I have no problem with the RIGHT to own guns. I do have a problem when people are not RESPONSIBLE with that right.
This case is perfect for discussing the merits of mandatory stolen gun reporting.

Tell us Steve how such a law could have affected this crime?

Do you know for a fact that most gun owners do not report their firearms stolen when they are stolen? I sure would so I can get reimbursed for it.

I'm not required to report anything I own when it is stolen. Does that make me irresponsible if I don't? Hardly.
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Right On wrote:
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You are off-base here. Everyone has fists or can easily obtain a bat, knife, whatever. But possessing a firearm is a special right reserved for those with a clean record. Most - the vast majority - of crimes committed with firearms that are NOT legally possessed - and therefore these crimes should be treated much more harshly. This is the appropriate answer to the gun problem - creating more laws that impact legal gun owners/users in NOT the answer.
You're off base. Firearm ownership is a pre-existing right and protected under the US and PA constitutions. Even under the many unconstitutional guns laws there are many crimes that do not preclude me from owning a firearm.

I challenge your assertion that a violent crime against another human is somehow more severe based on the tool used to commit said crime.
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Tell us Steve how such a law could have affected this crime?
I have repeatedly asked you this question. Why do you refuse to answer it Steve?

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May 7, 2008
 
2nd amendment wrote:
This case is perfect for discussing the merits of mandatory stolen gun reporting.
Tell us Steve how such a law could have affected this crime?
Do you know for a fact that most gun owners do not report their firearms stolen when they are stolen? I sure would so I can get reimbursed for it.
I'm not required to report anything I own when it is stolen. Does that make me irresponsible if I don't? Hardly.
And I believe I have answered this many times also. I'm not claiming a "report" law would PREVENT this crime.

Legal gun owners who really are the victims of a robbery don't concern me. Of course they'll report it, for the insurance or simply because it's the proper thing to do.

What concerns me are the people who CLAIM to be a victim of a robbery after a crime was committed with their gun when in fact they're trading their gun for crack, or just outright selling it on the black market.

And again, a report law will not stop the buyer on the black market from committing a crime. What it will do is allow the Police to go back to this original owner and prosecute them for the crime they committed in selling or trading their gun illegally.

As for your last statement, having you gun stolen should be considered a little differently than having your lawn gnome stolen. Let's stay away from the stupid analogies OK?
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