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Northampton County, PA

Mom who gave teens vodka is jailed

Lisa Marie Haas sobbed and apologized and assured a Northampton County judge her days of giving alcohol to children are over.

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David-1206
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Jul 14, 2008
 
Hopefully this woman will be a little less remorseful and a lot more RESPONSIBLE after her time in jail.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
What a scum bag
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Jul 14, 2008
 
If the kid wasn't worried about getting in trouble for being drunk, he would have stayed where he was to sleep it off instead of trying to sneak home.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
In most countries 16-year-olds can drink. Think about it.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
What was this woman thinking? She is fortunate that nothing else happened to these children.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
Absolutely, observer. This country creates most of the problems it tries to solve. IMO, the mother wouldn't buy another bottle for the kid.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
If the mother wanted to buy them a bottle then she should've taken their keys too. That would've been more responsible.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
Yes, Matt. She should have supervised their activities. That was her biggest mistake, giving them vodka to get them out of her hair.

IMHO, with this crime, it's the "getting caught" part that should actually be a crime. Public drunkenness, disorderly conduct, DUI, etc. that come from furnishing alcohol to minors should be a necessary condition for making the furnishing itself a crime. Kind of a "no harm, no foul" attitude.

In this case, she's guilty. But the judge's comments were too much in that they conveyed a moral, not just a legal, attitude about alcohol.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
Unnecessary Trouble wrote:
Yes, Matt. She should have supervised their activities. That was her biggest mistake, giving them vodka to get them out of her hair.
IMHO, with this crime, it's the "getting caught" part that should actually be a crime. Public drunkenness, disorderly conduct, DUI, etc. that come from furnishing alcohol to minors should be a necessary condition for making the furnishing itself a crime. Kind of a "no harm, no foul" attitude.
In this case, she's guilty. But the judge's comments were too much in that they conveyed a moral, not just a legal, attitude about alcohol.
Your comments are sophomoric. As are "observers".

Thirty years ago, many states had minimum ages of 18; lower in a few places. You're probably too young to remember that.

Take all the other countries in the world combined, and they probably don't have the vehicular traffic of the U.S. And few of their teens can drive legally. Driving age is 18 in many European countries, and most can't afford autos anyway. The price of a vehicle anywhere but here is multiples of what we pay. There's your motivation for the U.S. to legislate.

We've made giving alcohol to underage drinkers a crime, because it fits both our mores and our national love affair with cars.(That's more-ays for those who don't know - look it up.) We've done that.

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Jul 14, 2008
 
if your going to drink - DON'T DRIVE. germany allows purchases of alcohol at age 14.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
BELFASTBOB wrote:
if your going to drink - DON'T DRIVE. germany allows purchases of alcohol at age 14.
We don't live in Germany so their drinking and purchasing age does not have anything to do with us.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
Rules are rules. In the US, there isn't an allowance for underage children to drink or purchase alcohol. Some of you might say rules were made to be broken, but would you say that if that boy had died or killed someone else? Like someone you know or love?
As an adult, it was a stupid move. As the parent, it was unforgivable.
Kids need to realize they have plenty of time to grow up and have a beer. If they think at 14, 15, 16, etc that they are grown up, then get a full time job, pay bills, pay taxes, follow the rules.....or move to Germany.
Don't waste your youth, stay young until you have to be the adult.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
I hope she at least got good vodka for the kids
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Jul 14, 2008
 
Great Mother image. Other countries have younger drinking ages - let the Mothers or Fathers that furnish children alcohol live in those countries. Let's get them a one way airfare.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
I don't agree. It's too late after the kid's car is already wrapped around a tree.
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Kind of a "no harm, no foul" attitude.
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Jul 14, 2008
 
Wrong, vodka and other hard spirits cannot be purchased until 18 in Germany; beer and wine at 16. No alcohol can be purchased at 14. Furthermore, just because other nations have lower ages doesn't make it a good idea:

"Alcohol use by youth is an international phenomenon. The 2003 European School Survey Project on Alcohol and Other Drugs (ESPAD) surveyed 15-year-olds in 35 European countries where legal drinking ages are lower (typically ages 16–18) than in the United States. The ESPAD questions were similar to those used with 10th graders in the U.S. Monitoring the Future study. In all European countries except the predominantly Moslem nation of Turkey, a greater percentage of 15-year-olds drank alcohol than in the United States; and in more than three-quarters of the countries, a greater percentage reported drinking to intoxication in the previous year than in the United States."

SOURCE: http://www.espad.org/reports.html
BELFASTBOB wrote:
if your going to drink - DON'T DRIVE. germany allows purchases of alcohol at age 14.

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Jul 14, 2008
 
Opinionated wrote:
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We don't live in Germany so their drinking and purchasing age does not have anything to do with us.
that is the dumbest comment I have ever heard,,,your are not the sharpest knife in the drawer are you....

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Jul 14, 2008
 
an 18 yr old can get killed in Iraq fighting for our country,,,but cannot have a drink back home.....
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Jul 14, 2008
 
If you don't like our laws and mores,MOVE.
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#21
Jul 14, 2008
 
How is it that one person can get jail time and yet another similar scenario happened over one year ago and the two girls get probation and fines?? That don't even make any sense, more evidence how corrupt our courts are... On top of it all, the previous scenario - 2 people died!! Yet girls only got probation... messed up!!!!!!!!!!
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