Critics blast drug testing to get welfare

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xxxrayted wrote:

Asking politicians to make a law so they themselves have to be drug tested is like trying to tell a cop he should give himself a ticket for speeding.

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Lamer wrote:

"Of course liberals don't want drug testing to get welfare because the majority of blacks would instantly be denied, no such thing as a black person who doesn't smoke weed.
Besides liberals want as many people on drugs and welfare as possible - that's their control device"
I would rather be a liberal then a moron like yourself.

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Lamer wrote:

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You are correct here. But why is it just for welfare recipents they are always targeting? Why is it they (republicans) do not ever bring up drug testing corperate welfare recipients? Those indiviual entities get a much larger portion of tax dollars than a family on welfare.
And i will support drug testing for welfare once we start drug testing EVERYONE whom recieves tax payer dollars.

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So what's wrong with taking drug tests for free money?

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Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>I see nothing wrong with it because I would bet that a majority of the recipients would test positive for illegal drug use and that is the main reason why they cant gain employment and are living off the system at least if we drug tested recipients for illegal drug they could be denied benefits and the system would see a drop for sure.

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Anonymous of Indy wrote:

<quoted text>I see nothing wrong with it because I would bet that a majority of the recipients would test positive for illegal drug use and that is the main reason why they cant gain employment and are living off the system at least if we drug tested recipients for illegal drug they could be denied benefits and the system would see a drop for sure.

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xxxrayted wrote:

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More than that, users want to continue using. If they can't use while on welfare, some might get a job where there is no drug testing to continue their habit. One of the reasons many stay on welfare and food stamps is because there is no incentive to get off the systems. I not only think that they should drug test for welfare, but for any government assistance programs such as HUD, Medicaid and food stamps.
The big difference between conservative and liberal views on public assistance is how recipients are looked at. When a liberal thinks of poor people, he or she imagines a family of five sitting at the dinner table below a light hanging from wires with a 40 watt bulb screwed in. Dad is beat from working his fingers to the bone, and mom is adding more water in the soup to make it last longer.
When conservatives think of the poor, we see a family of eight where the mother had children the entire time while living off our taxes. They are in a middle-class suburb living in a HUD home, and their heat is on 82 in the middle of winter. They never turn it down even when they leave the house because they are not paying the bill. The mother is usually fat and the kids not far behind because they are siting there playing video games all day or watching cable television.
The only way liberals and conservatives will ever see eye to eye on social programs is if they are only given to those who truly need it--and not those who are working the system. Random drug testing can help to accomplish that goal because the truly needy would never spend money on drugs.

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

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You'd lose your bet. There's not a study one anywhere that would support your stupid and ignorant statements. You are guilty of projection....just because you'd like to do it, doesn't mean the average person would or does.
Nor is there any studies -that I have been able to find- that demonstrates any cost savings to drug testing. And I'll bet you couldn't find one either.

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PlacitasRoy wrote:

Drug testing is smiply another example of the 'conservative', anti-science Repukes pissing away money because they believe in myths.
The Tampa Tribune did some simple math about the efforts in FL. The results demonstrated how costly the demeaning, punitive and insulting plan is to the taxpayers!.
"Cost of the tests averages about $30. Assuming that 1,000 to 1,500 applicants take the test every month, the state will owe about $28,800-$43,200 monthly in reimbursements to those who test drug-free.
"That compares with roughly $32,200-$48,200 the state may save on one month’s worth of rejected applicants.
"Net savings to the state:$3,400 to $5,000 annually on one month’s worth of rejected applicants. Over 12 months, the money saved on all rejected applicants would add up to $40,800 to $60,000 for a program that state analysts have predicted will cost $178 million this fiscal year.
http://www2.tbo.com/news/politics/2011/aug/24...