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Rex Farley
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No justice-but it appears that this is just the norm in this part of the state.
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Flagler Citizen
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It does not surprise me that Tanner's neighbor and lifelong friend has once again put his neck out there for him. This particular judge has already had a previous ruling overturned by the 5th DCA regarding this case, and it was Hammond who permitted the grand jury probe to continue despite many appeals presented by Tanner and his high priced lawyers,(payed for by taxpayers). Hammond's continual hearing of lenghty appeals on Tanner's part were nothing more than a stall tactic to benifit his friend. Hammond should have stepped away long ago. He is due to retire this year anyway, what does he care. Heck of way to leave office though. Mr. Tanner, how do you justify spending monies from a fraudulent check fund to defend yourself? Are those monies obtained to compensate actual victims of fraudulent checks, or to defend you? Are you going to permit the average citizen access to this money when they feel they are wrongfully accused, as you did? The jailers that you advised a grand jury to indict, that were later cleared were not afforded access to that money, were they?
Stand by for the 5th DCA to overturn Hammond, again!
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THE TRUTH
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Flagler Citizen wrote: It does not surprise me that Tanner's neighbor and lifelong friend has once again put his neck out there for him. This particular judge has already had a previous ruling overturned by the 5th DCA regarding this case, and it was Hammond who permitted the grand jury probe to continue despite many appeals presented by Tanner and his high priced lawyers,(payed for by taxpayers). Hammond's continual hearing of lenghty appeals on Tanner's part were nothing more than a stall tactic to benifit his friend. Hammond should have stepped away long ago. He is due to retire this year anyway, what does he care. Heck of way to leave office though. Mr. Tanner, how do you justify spending monies from a fraudulent check fund to defend yourself? Are those monies obtained to compensate actual victims of fraudulent checks, or to defend you? Are you going to permit the average citizen access to this money when they feel they are wrongfully accused, as you did? The jailers that you advised a grand jury to indict, that were later cleared were not afforded access to that money, were they? Stand by for the 5th DCA to overturn Hammond, again! To set the record straight: 1. Mere speculation that Hammond is Tanner's life-long friend 2. Tanner never appeared or advised the grand jury to indict the corrections officers 3. Worthless check program compensates merchants; excess funds used to defend Tanner and office staff 4. Shorstein could have acted to have Hammond disqualified. He did not. 5. Hammond does not plan to retire this year. 6. Sounds like your personal animosity toward Tanner is really just all about you and your connections, rather than the legal issues at hand. 7. Watch the 5th DCA stand by Hammond's order.
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gus
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Let's see how long has John Boy Tanner been the State Attorney? A few terms off and on and he never has been in the Flagler County Jail and seen the fish bowl shower that precious Lisa had to bath in? His assistants have never been in the jail? His investigators have never been in the jail? Looks like they all had their heads turned until the wrong person landed in there. The chair and shower is satisfactory for the rest of Flagler County residents to spend the night and shower. Sounds like not much gets done except serving a few subpoenas and tracking down lost witnesses in cases down there. All it took is for Lisa to land in jail and it was John Boy to the rescue. I have seen the restraint chair video and all Lisa had to do is mind her business and not cause a fuss and she would have been strung from jail in just couple of hours by John Boys friend Judge Kim Hammond. I did not see anything but an inmate resisting officers. I believe the winds of change are about to blow in Daytona. A new broom sweeps clean. 2008 can not get here soon enough.
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gus
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3. Worthless check program compensates merchants; excess funds used to defend Tanner and office staff
I bet more has been spent on defending Tanner than the merchants. When you get in the office in the morning look that up or do you already know the figures? Ltes here them. The last price ta gfor Tanners circus was aover 200K. What a party he has had. I hope he has had sleepless nights. I doubt it he is a lawyer they have no guilt.
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gus
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Excuse the grammar and spelling I have had too much Bush Light, lmao
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Flagler Citizen
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In response to "Truth" (Hammond himself)? I notice that you failed to answer the question of whether or not Hammond and Tanner are neighbors. We the citizens will take that as a yes. Why was it that the most recent decision by Hammond was sealed, forcing Shorstein to file an appeal to simply read the actual ruling to appeal it. Stall tactic I presume. In addressing number 4 of your response, everyone in the justice system knows that it is the judge that should recognize a conflict then recuse him/herself, and anyone who moves to request a judge's recusal has committed great problems for his/her case. I do not undertsand how it is that you feel the DCA would in anyway uphold the most recent decision made by Hammond to seal this presentment. The most recent DCA decision was not in favor of Tanner, it was sealed by Hammond and unsealed by the DCA permitting an appeal. The appeal was the only reason we as citizens were able to read Hammond's decision. This shall serve as the second decision made by Hammond, OVERTURNED!
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THE TRUTH
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To get the TRUTH out once again: 1. Hammond and Tanner are neighbors----several blocks away from each other. There are also 2 public defenders in the neighborhood; in addition, a county judge, a police officer, and an FDLE agent. Your deductive reasoning is really off base. Dealing in generalities and assumptions will not reveal to you the TRUTH. 2. Obviously the judge did not see a conflict. Hammond is honest and ethical; a seasoned and competent judge. 3. The Presentment is sealed by statute 4. Tanner and Shorstein both agreed to the unsealing of Hammond's order 5. For some reason you obviously do not like Hammond. That is very interesting.
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Gus
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Tanner is a jerk and self serving politician.
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Flagler Citizen
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I just had the opportunity to re-visit this article. TRUTH, how was it that Shorstein and Hammond "agreed to the unsealing of Hammond's order" when the decision was made by the DCA and delivered while Shorstein and Tanner were present before Hammond, during a hearing regarding the Presentment. The Presentment by the was by statute and should have been sealed for 15 days allowing for a "response." If your assertion that the Presentment "is" sealed pursuant to "statute" why all the costly motions?
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MARC 3
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I am sorry, I saw the videos of prisoner treatments in Sheriff Flemings' Flager County Jail. Strapping a woman and spraying her with pepper spray is torture plain and simple. Neither Tanner's treatment nor the woman's treatment I mentioned before were isolated incidents. Rather Fleming knew of at least four such incidents, and facilitated it by doing nothing despite an obligation nto prevent it (42 U.S.C. 1986) which makes him a co-conspirator under the law (Salinas v. U.S., 522 US 52). But then, I have yet to find anybody who would make that an issue. Indeed, you are right, our political and judicial systems are corrupt to the bones. Yet they are corrupt with the apparent approval of the news media and the people.
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