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Chesterfield County, VA

Jan 13, 2008

Immigration bills flood assembly

As Gov. Timothy M. Kaine cautions legislators against Virginia appearing unfriendly to a diverse population, lawmakers are flooding the Capitol with legislation targeting illegal immigrants.

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“Trucking Is Not A Job-Its Life”

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Jan 13, 2008
 
It is about time the legislators started listening to the legal Americans and started going after the illegal aliens. how many millions will be saved by not allowing them access to state run programs? how much will the state save and the tax payers save not having to support them? it is time to stop doing state buisness in other languages and make them learn english. I applaud the legislation for finally doing something right.
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Jan 13, 2008
 
Long Haul Driver wrote:
It is about time the legislators started listening to the legal Americans and started going after the illegal aliens. how many millions will be saved by not allowing them access to state run programs? how much will the state save and the tax payers save not having to support them? it is time to stop doing state buisness in other languages and make them learn english. I applaud the legislation for finally doing something right.
I totally agree. The East Coast has been lagging behind on these issues. It's about time one of the eastern states took a stand. Now let's hope this kick starts the more northern states to follow suit.

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Jan 14, 2008
 
The western states that have implimented some of these same initiatives, now see illegals leaving their states by the herds. They say they don't feel 'welcome' anymore. Gee...
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Jan 14, 2008
 
http://www.inrich.com/cva/ric/news.apx.-conte...

The article says:

"The Pew Hispanic Center estimates that there are 250,000 to 300,000 illegal immigrants in Virginia."

With 250,000-300,000 ILLEGALS in Virginia and if every ILLEGAL received just $10.00 in State services a year that adds up to $2,500,000.00 to $3,000,000.00 (2 1/2 MILLION to 3 MILLION dollars) spent on ILLEGALS every year.

At $100.00 per ILLEGAL per year the figure jumps to $25,000,000.00-$30,000,000.00 (25 MILLION-30 MILLION dollars)

At $1,000.00 per ILLEGAL, the figure dramatically increases to $250,000,000.00 to $300,000,000.00 ($250-$300 MILLION dollars) That's 1/4 to almost a 1/3 of a BILLION dollars that ILLEGALS cost the TAXPAYERS of Virginia every year.

However the figure in Iowa reflects the cost per ILLEGAL there is over $4,000.00 for each and every ILLEGAL. If this is the same case a more realistic figure including health care, schooling with free breakfasts and lunches, food stamps, welfare, WIC, etc., the figure sky rockets to $1,000,000,000.00-1,200,000,00 0.00 (1 BILLION to 1 1/5 BILLION dollars) a year spent on ILLEGALS.

If every one of the estimated 12 MILLION to 20 MILLION ILLEGALS cost the taxpayers $4,000,00 in services each year that is ***$48 BILLION to $80 BILLION*** dollars per YEAR.

If ALL States pooled their savings from not having to support ILLEGALS and put that money towards the border fence it would take less than a year to pool the money need to build the fence. So just who is trying to pull the wool of the United States Citizen's eyes?

One more thing. You know the boxes on Federal taxes that you can check to donate part of your refund to a cause? I think there should be a box to donate towards the Border Fence.

The 2007 estimated population of the United States is 301,139,947 subtract 20 million (high end estimate) for ILLEGALS and you get 281,139,947 LEGAL United States Citizens. If just 1/4 of the estimated 281 million LEGAL Citizens (70.25 MILLION) donated $100.00 that would net $7,025,000,000.00 (7 BILLION 25 MILLION dollars) to build the fence.
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Jan 14, 2008
 
We are at the point in time where emergency services at local hospitals are rapidly disappearing because of the flood of illegal immigrants in the emergency room waiting room. Must we also teach, feed , and provide social services to illegal aliens who care nothing about the USA and its values. Everything they earn is exported back to Mexico. Enough of this destroying of the american middle class by the politicians and illegal aliens send them back until they get a legal green card and pay taxes to pay for some of these services.

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Jan 14, 2008
 
We could build a fence on the whole 2000 mile southern border for 7 Billion.
It costs 3.2 Million per mile of DOUBLE LAYER fence.
that's 6.4 Billion.
And still have 600 million for maintenance.
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Jan 14, 2008
 
RoboTech wrote:
We could build a fence on the whole 2000 mile southern border for 7 Billion.
It costs 3.2 Million per mile of DOUBLE LAYER fence.
that's 6.4 Billion.
And still have 600 million for maintenance.
If they're really concerned about costs...why not use a mine field? It'd be cheaper and mroe effective.
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Jan 14, 2008
 
There's no 'flooding' in IL legislature. The floor's not even wet?

We have the Pro-illegal crowd in charge of our horrible government.

Imagine running a government with a 'PRO'-'ILLEGAL' platform?(IN-FAVOR-OF-ILLEGAL? ) What the $#@&!

It's really imcomprehendable.

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Jan 14, 2008
 
"We cannot afford to let supercharged political rhetoric unfairly paint a picture of Virginians as a people who are hostile to new Americans," the governor said.

There's that code word again.

I've only heard it used for illegal immigrants.
I wonder which pos thought this up.

Well at least it's new.lol.
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Jan 14, 2008
 
Indyeast wrote:
"We cannot afford to let supercharged political rhetoric unfairly paint a picture of Virginians as a people who are hostile to new Americans," the governor said.
There's that code word again.
I've only heard it used for illegal immigrants.
I wonder which pos thought this up.
Well at least it's new.lol.
What is the governor of Virginia's problem?

Since when are ILLEGAL ALIENS "new Americans"?

Did they apply to come here legally?
Do they want to become U.S. citizens?
Do they want to learn English?

Or do they want to:
Steal Americans identities?
Steal Americans jobs?
Illegally collect from our social services?
Bankrupt our medical care system?
Etc Etc----

Hey Governor of Virginia--
We, the Citizens of these United States want to paint the picture that we will no longer tolerate the invasion of ILLEGAL ALIENS into our nation.

We are NOT "hostile" to "new Americans"! We are sick and tired of supporting millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS who think they run the U.S..

Do not be surprised, Governor, if you are ousted in the next election.

In elections majority rules and the overwhelming majority of Americans want a halt put to ILLEGAL ALIEN criminals who defy our laws.

We also want a halt put to elected officials who do not do what they are elected to do, which is to represent the people who elected them.
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Jan 15, 2008
 
Pando wrote:
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What is the governor of Virginia's problem?
Since when are ILLEGAL ALIENS "new Americans"?
Did they apply to come here legally?
Do they want to become U.S. citizens?
Do they want to learn English?
Or do they want to:
Steal Americans identities?
Steal Americans jobs?
Illegally collect from our social services?
Bankrupt our medical care system?
Etc Etc----
Hey Governor of Virginia--
We, the Citizens of these United States want to paint the picture that we will no longer tolerate the invasion of ILLEGAL ALIENS into our nation.
We are NOT "hostile" to "new Americans"! We are sick and tired of supporting millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS who think they run the U.S..
Do not be surprised, Governor, if you are ousted in the next election.
In elections majority rules and the overwhelming majority of Americans want a halt put to ILLEGAL ALIEN criminals who defy our laws.
We also want a halt put to elected officials who do not do what they are elected to do, which is to represent the people who elected them.
What is the governor of Virginia's problem? He's a democrat. THAT seems to be their stand; NOT taking a stand because they don't want to offend.

Well Gov. Kaine is not God almighty and some of us DIDN'T vote for him; the liberal element did.
This kind of stuff is what you get. His influence and that of other democrats will determine how this state goes UNTIL MANY PEOPLE GET sick of it and want liberal statutes removed.

In the meantime, Virginia needs to pay STRICT attention to what happens. If it doesn't go the right way, Virginians need to boot these people from office before it is too late.

By the way, I have news for Governor Kaine. He needs to get out of Richmond and some other places and actually SEE some places in Virginia, LOOK at what is happening and go to some of the public meetings; especially when illegals are there.

Would have been nice to see our esteemed governor at the October 16th, 1007 meeting of our local government and just what turned out. "Si, Se Pude".
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Jan 15, 2008
 
Oops; that's 2007.
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Jan 15, 2008
 
W Getchell wrote:
The western states that have implimented some of these same initiatives, now see illegals leaving their states by the herds. They say they don't feel 'welcome' anymore. Gee...
THAT'S what we WANT.
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Jan 15, 2008
 
latinos,africans,prs,cubans,hi spanics,mexicans
do not belong in the continental usa

anchor 1baby 2senior 3dead

true patriots unite!
JUMP START OPERATION WET BACK

end illegal legal alien black & brown immigration
VOTE ALL TICKET(R)REPUBLICAN08
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Jan 15, 2008
 
usa1 wrote:
latinos,africans,prs,cubans,hi spanics,mexicans
do not belong in the continental usa
anchor 1baby 2senior 3dead
true patriots unite!
JUMP START OPERATION WET BACK
end illegal legal alien black & brown immigration
VOTE ALL TICKET(R)REPUBLICAN08
We could do with a little LESS racism thank you.
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Jan 15, 2008
 
I invite authors of these comments to take a second look at what you are really saying. I think these writings reveal more about yourselves than the illegals you rail against. Since when is hatred an american value?
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Jan 16, 2008
 
docgiman wrote:
I invite authors of these comments to take a second look at what you are really saying. I think these writings reveal more about yourselves than the illegals you rail against. Since when is hatred an american value?
Since when are gullibility and strict obediance American values? After having WATCHED what these folks do over the years, I think it is o.k. to comment.

It's a free country last time I looked. If you don't like the "hateful" language, look the other way or stop your ears.

Your writing reveals some about you too. You need to realize one thing. When something isn't right; you speak up. Unless of course you are AFRAID of confrontation. We are getting TIRED of politically correct activists and politicians trying to tell us how to think and act. It's about time some of you were ignored.
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Jan 16, 2008
 
docgiman wrote:
I invite authors of these comments to take a second look at what you are really saying. I think these writings reveal more about yourselves than the illegals you rail against. Since when is hatred an american value?
Every time I see a post like this I'm going to whip out this response that a very intelligent reader posted once (not me), on these forums. It speaks volumes and answers EVERY question succinnctly. See if you agree?

"I am a Mexican and my family is European. In fact the whole ruling class of Mexico is European. Vicente Fox is as white as they come. In fact he is Irish.

So people who are against illegal immigrants aren't racist. But culturally, Mexicans are very different and when they come in mass and refuse to assimilate, people begin to hate them.
Mexican-Americans need to assimilate and need to show respect to their fellow American citizens by shunning illegal aliens. We need to stop helping them out and encourage them to return to Mexico and get in line.

Illegal aliens, the majority of whom are Mexican, are destroying things for the rest of us."
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Jan 16, 2008
 
Enact local legislation, and enforce our laws! Consider Oklahoma's HB 1804. Illegals will leave if the law is enforced.
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Jan 16, 2008
 
Knight726 wrote:
Enact local legislation, and enforce our laws! Consider Oklahoma's HB 1804. Illegals will leave if the law is enforced.
Exactly. Just imagine, our liberals, dems and traitor repubs in every state besides Ok and Az and washington allowing criminals to freely operate without any legal impediment AND in fact, encouraging the non-enforcement of law? It's just historically unimaginable in America?
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