Cessna to consolidate plants

Sep 10, 2009 | Posted by: There Will Be Blood | Full story: www.airportbusiness.com

Sep. 10--Cessna Aircraft has taken some tough actions to adjust to a down market for business jets in the past several months.

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Roswell, NM

#62 Dec 12, 2009
Marcus Tullius Cicero wrote:
I noticed that Cessna is closing facilities in Georgia and moving the production to Independence and Mexico...Gee, I wonder why that is?
Could have something to do with the fact that both places are non-union plants.
This is a lesson to study for all you union fanatics that just have to have a union at the Independence plant...remember, Cessna can close this place down just as easily as Columbus, GA.
I know that I will catch some $#i+ over this comment from some union supporters...so let the fun begin....
I wasn't aware that Columbus was union? I didn't think they were. I guess I could be wrong.

Since: Feb 09

South Texas

#63 Dec 12, 2009
say what wrote:
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I wasn't aware that Columbus was union? I didn't think they were. I guess I could be wrong.
Read my post carefully...I never said Columbus was union... did I?

If Cessna will close a non-union plant, then what would happen if Independence were union? Duh...
David Traughber

Longton, KS

#64 Dec 13, 2009
I said it wrote:
So Dave did you only respond once or are there more that are yours?
This is the first, but not the last!
David Traughber

Longton, KS

#65 Dec 13, 2009
Thanks to those who use their real names...
A lot of Indy has moved to Columbus and neither one will shut down, just good business, I have worked at both.
As for Bend, Oregon??? It was speculated that it was just aqquired for the composite technology, but who am I to say, just good business again???
David Traughber

Longton, KS

#66 Dec 13, 2009
Strawberry wrote:
You've been watching O'Reilly ! Sounds good to me.
Every chance I get! I am sure your Mother didn't give you the good name of Strawberry, lol.
Bad Meat

Roswell, NM

#67 Dec 13, 2009
David Traughber wrote:
Thanks to those who use their real names...
A lot of Indy has moved to Columbus and neither one will shut down, just good business, I have worked at both.
As for Bend, Oregon??? It was speculated that it was just aqquired for the composite technology, but who am I to say, just good business again???
Columbus is shutting down. They've already said so...
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Roswell, NM

#68 Dec 13, 2009
Marcus Tullius Cicero wrote:
<quoted text>Read my post carefully...I never said Columbus was union... did I?
If Cessna will close a non-union plant, then what would happen if Independence were union? Duh...
You never said Columbus was union, but the way it was written seemed to imply that they were a union plant. I wasn't being sarcastic in my post I was just remarking that I didn't think they were union.
CessnaFan

Independence, KS

#69 Dec 13, 2009
Why would Indy Cessna want to go Union? We have to do everything we can to make us more attractive to bring work here. And having to deal with a Union certainly will not help our chances. We have to keep doing what we are doing as far as improving productivity and lower our overhead cost.

Since: Feb 09

South Texas

#70 Dec 13, 2009
CessnaFan wrote:
Why would Indy Cessna want to go Union? We have to do everything we can to make us more attractive to bring work here. And having to deal with a Union certainly will not help our chances. We have to keep doing what we are doing as far as improving productivity and lower our overhead cost.
I agree...never had much use for unions...Work hard and play hard...without the union dues and a shop steward giving you the "look" anytime you might be doing something more productive than the rest of the crew.
David Traughber

Longton, KS

#71 Dec 13, 2009
Bad Meat wrote:
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Columbus is shutting down. They've already said so...
Dear Mr Meat, you are right, forgive me I have been out of the loop for a while.
I should have known, I used to have to rebuild most of the Columbus flight control surfaces when they arrived at the Indy plant.
Not to mention that corporate not so common sense would dictate that we spend a ton of money and man hours to train and move subs to Columbus just to bring them back home. Oh well, just glad I sold my .TXT stock at over 74.00 a share. GRINS!
Iceguy99

Falls Church, VA

#72 Jan 14, 2010
Marcus Tullius Cicero wrote:
I noticed that Cessna is closing facilities in Georgia and moving the production to Independence and Mexico...Gee, I wonder why that is?
Could have something to do with the fact that both places are non-union plants.
This is a lesson to study for all you union fanatics that just have to have a union at the Independence plant...remember, Cessna can close this place down just as easily as Columbus, GA.
I know that I will catch some $#i+ over this comment from some union supporters...so let the fun begin....
Columbus is and has always been non-union. Columubus was closed because they say they can get floor space and labor sooo much cheaper in Mexico that they just had to go for it to bring in a better return for the shareholders.

Since: Feb 09

South Texas

#73 Jan 14, 2010
Iceguy99 wrote:
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Columbus is and has always been non-union. Columubus was closed because they say they can get floor space and labor sooo much cheaper in Mexico that they just had to go for it to bring in a better return for the shareholders.
I guess I didn't make myself clear enough. They were going to close Columbus and send the work to Independence and Mexico. I never said that Columbus was or ever had been union...The point I was trying to make was they were not going to send the work to Wichita; Independence picked up the work because it is non-union and Wichita is. Mexico picked up the work because it is non-union and a much lower pay scale.

That was the point I was trying to make and failed.
columbus

Fort Mitchell, AL

#74 Jan 15, 2010
Marcus Tullius Cicero wrote:
<quoted text>Read my post carefully...I never said Columbus was union... did I?
If Cessna will close a non-union plant, then what would happen if Independence were union? Duh...
No Columbus is not a union plant! and yes I'm a Cessna, Columbus,Ga. worker....
columbus

Fort Mitchell, AL

#75 Jan 15, 2010
All I can say to all of you who have been laid off is keep a positive attitude and think of this as a new adventure in your lives....

We were told our approx. last day yesterday at work. Yeah all of us made it through multiple layoffs and thought we had survived....only to be told right before Christmas that they were closing the plant...We are people just like all of you, except we know there is no chance of getting called back.
I know life goes on and everything happens for a reason...Something even better will happen for me. MY CHIN IS HELD HIGH :)
I said it

Coffeyville, KS

#76 Jan 15, 2010
What a great attitude Columbus!

Since: Oct 09

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#77 Jan 15, 2010
yes marcus many years ago cessna told their employees when they were voting on a union that if they voted in the union they would move out of independence. what kind of company will have a union at one location and threaten employess at another location? so, later they laid many off, then the big headlines about how many they were hiring back, etc and on and on. i have had no repsect for them since day one. they just look for their coporate tax breaks wherever they go. may they implode. i am not a union supporter. most people in union plants are caught between the company and the union. it is a no win situation. i experienced it for 20 years.
Bad Meat

Roswell, NM

#78 Jan 16, 2010
devilbaby wrote:
yes marcus many years ago cessna told their employees when they were voting on a union that if they voted in the union they would move out of independence. what kind of company will have a union at one location and threaten employess at another location? so, later they laid many off, then the big headlines about how many they were hiring back, etc and on and on. i have had no repsect for them since day one. they just look for their coporate tax breaks wherever they go. may they implode. i am not a union supporter. most people in union plants are caught between the company and the union. it is a no win situation. i experienced it for 20 years.
I have serious doubts that it went down this way...

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