Toyota Prius loses Government Subsidy

It will certainly hurt toyota to lose prius sales in japan.

Tom Loy wrote:

It will certainly hurt toyota to lose prius sales in japan.

I bet my bottom dollar that Toyota will throw so much money on the hood of the Prius that sales will probably increase.

The story is all over the place and compares a lot of apples to oranges.

The Prius contiunes to dominate the hybrid market in Japan, the U.S. and worldwide. All you have to do is look at the over all numbers sold and compare to the #2 hybrid sold worldwide which is what again????

This story is highly relevant as it shows us that even though Toyota’s lowly prius only counts for less than 1% of the market; it will need an incentive either from the government or the manufacturer to continue its numbers.

Gas prices will affect consumer demand for hybrids now and in the future. With more electric and hybrid models coming on the market Prius will lose some of its market share. They will likely need to offer some incentives. So will the others.

So what? It's called Marketing 101.

JJFADS wrote:

This story is highly relevant as it shows us that even though Toyota’s lowly prius only counts for less than 1% of the market; it will need an incentive either from the government or the manufacturer to continue its numbers.

"This story is highly relevant.....????"

Posting this story is 'relevant' to only one thing:

JJFADS does whatever it takes (aka the end justifies the means) to support his bizarre obsession about Toyota's woes.

Would anyone buy a car from this man?

JJFADS wrote:

This story is highly relevant as it shows us that even though Toyota’s lowly prius only counts for less than 1% of the market; it will need an incentive either from the government or the manufacturer to continue its numbers.

I love how you twist the facts to suit your argument. Why? That's what I want to know. Why do you continue to do so? Just answer that question with a simple one or two sentence statement. Your continuing down this path only harms your reputation even more on these forums (as if it could get any worse). IF that's is what you want then so be it.

Anyway, I know you keep pounding on the fact that the Prius is lowly, but again you can only be farther from the truth. The Prius has set and continues to set the standard in hybrid cars. It is the #1 selling hybrid car in the world. Yet in the same breath you tout the Volt as this almighty vehicle that will change the hybrid world. Let me see.

Toyota Prius ($25K): 1,800,000 sold
Chevy Volt ($41K): 0 sold

Yeah, definitely a game changer. NOT. Especially when you consider the sub-par MPG (less than 30mpg) it gets once the engine kicks on and the fact it needs a "mountain mode" to help traverse through hilly terrain. All this for a low, low price of $41,000. Oh and I know you are going to mention that with tax incentives the price will come down and sure it will, but it'll still be $33,000 and that price will only last until it hits that magical number where it no longer qualifies for an incentive.

The Prius will not be going away. It will continue to maintain it's dominance in they hybrid field for quite sometime whether you think so or not. The Prius with the signature wedge shape has proven to be an agent of change and a catalyst for innovative ideas. Every automaker has used the Prius as the industry benchmark for a hybrid car. When it came out in the U.S. in 2000 it was overshadowed by the hit of the NA Int'l Auto show the Hummer H2 and we all know what happened to that line of vehicles (bye, bye H2). Thankfully Toyota (unlike GM) had the foresight, even when gas prices were well below $2, to invest and develop the Prius.

"It's hard to say what would have happened, had there been no Prius in the U.S., but in the 10 years since the car has been available, significant benefits have accrued. Nearly 900,000 people who chose to drive a Toyota Prius versus the average car have prevented an estimated nine million tons of CO2 from entering the atmosphere, conserved approximately 650 million gallons of gas, and saved an estimated 1.5 billion of their hard-earned dollars."

With each generation, the Prius has received a slightly larger engine while rasising its city and highway MPG rating.

Today, the Prius has become a mainstream vehicle. It is the third-best selling car in the Toyota line, and an icon for the company. Owner loyalty figures are among the highest in the automotive industry.

So JJ as you continue to show that no matter how much you distort the truth, the people have spoken and they continue to buy the Prius at an average rate of 15,000 a month. Numbers that GM wish they could achieve in the hybrid market.

You have some real issues. Calm down and relax, this is an internet forum. Remember?

JJFADS wrote:

You have some real issues. Calm down and relax, this is an internet forum. Remember?

Great! I actually love your response! When you are hit with undisputable facts you cower behind a lame and unrelated excuse about emotion. WTF?? haha...

And when asked a very simple and basic question about your lack of credibility you have absolutely no comeback.

Another showing of how you are unable to cope with the truth. Sweeeeet....

JJFADS wrote:

This story is highly relevant as it shows us that even though Toyota’s lowly prius only counts for less than 1% of the market; it will need an incentive either from the government or the manufacturer to continue its numbers.

So good I just had to post again.

I love how you twist the facts to suit your argument. Why? That's what I want to know. Why do you continue to do so? Just answer that question with a simple one or two sentence statement. Your continuing down this path only harms your reputation even more on these forums (as if it could get any worse). IF that's is what you want then so be it.

Anyway, I know you keep pounding on the fact that the Prius is lowly, but again you can only be farther from the truth. The Prius has set and continues to set the standard in hybrid cars. It is the #1 selling hybrid car in the world. Yet in the same breath you tout the Volt as this almighty vehicle that will change the hybrid world. Let me see.

Toyota Prius ($25K): 1,800,000 sold
Chevy Volt ($41K): 0 sold

Yeah, definitely a game changer. NOT. Especially when you consider the sub-par MPG (less than 30mpg) it gets once the engine kicks on and the fact it needs a "mountain mode" to help traverse through hilly terrain. All this for a low, low price of $41,000. Oh and I know you are going to mention that with tax incentives the price will come down and sure it will, but it'll still be $33,000 and that price will only last until it hits that magical number where it no longer qualifies for an incentive.

The Prius will not be going away. It will continue to maintain it's dominance in they hybrid field for quite sometime whether you think so or not. The Prius with the signature wedge shape has proven to be an agent of change and a catalyst for innovative ideas. Every automaker has used the Prius as the industry benchmark for a hybrid car. When it came out in the U.S. in 2000 it was overshadowed by the hit of the NA Int'l Auto show the Hummer H2 and we all know what happened to that line of vehicles (bye, bye H2). Thankfully Toyota (unlike GM) had the foresight, even when gas prices were well below $2, to invest and develop the Prius.

"It's hard to say what would have happened, had there been no Prius in the U.S., but in the 10 years since the car has been available, significant benefits have accrued. Nearly 900,000 people who chose to drive a Toyota Prius versus the average car have prevented an estimated nine million tons of CO2 from entering the atmosphere, conserved approximately 650 million gallons of gas, and saved an estimated 1.5 billion of their hard-earned dollars."

With each generation, the Prius has received a slightly larger engine while rasising its city and highway MPG rating.

Today, the Prius has become a mainstream vehicle. It is the third-best selling car in the Toyota line, and an icon for the company. Owner loyalty figures are among the highest in the automotive industry.

So JJ as you continue to show that no matter how much you distort the truth, the people have spoken and they continue to buy the Prius at an average rate of 15,000 a month. Numbers that GM wish they could achieve in the hybrid market.

whatever wrote:

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I love how you twist the facts to suit your argument. Why? That's what I want to know. Why do you continue to do so? Just answer that question with a simple one or two sentence statement. Your continuing down this path only harms your reputation even more on these forums (as if it could get any worse). IF that's is what you want then so be it.
Anyway, I know you keep pounding on the fact that the Prius is lowly, but again you can only be farther from the truth. The Prius has set and continues to set the standard in hybrid cars. It is the #1 selling hybrid car in the world. Yet in the same breath you tout the Volt as this almighty vehicle that will change the hybrid world. Let me see.
Toyota Prius ($25K): 1,800,000 sold
Chevy Volt ($41K): 0 sold
Yeah, definitely a game changer. NOT. Especially when you consider the sub-par MPG (less than 30mpg) it gets once the engine kicks on and the fact it needs a "mountain mode" to help traverse through hilly terrain. All this for a low, low price of $41,000. Oh and I know you are going to mention that with tax incentives the price will come down and sure it will, but it'll still be $33,000 and that price will only last until it hits that magical number where it no longer qualifies for an incentive.
The Prius will not be going away. It will continue to maintain it's dominance in they hybrid field for quite sometime whether you think so or not. The Prius with the signature wedge shape has proven to be an agent of change and a catalyst for innovative ideas. Every automaker has used the Prius as the industry benchmark for a hybrid car. When it came out in the U.S. in 2000 it was overshadowed by the hit of the NA Int'l Auto show the Hummer H2 and we all know what happened to that line of vehicles (bye, bye H2). Thankfully Toyota (unlike GM) had the foresight, even when gas prices were well below $2, to invest and develop the Prius.
"It's hard to say what would have happened, had there been no Prius in the U.S., but in the 10 years since the car has been available, significant benefits have accrued. Nearly 900,000 people who chose to drive a Toyota Prius versus the average car have prevented an estimated nine million tons of CO2 from entering the atmosphere, conserved approximately 650 million gallons of gas, and saved an estimated 1.5 billion of their hard-earned dollars."
With each generation, the Prius has received a slightly larger engine while rasising its city and highway MPG rating.
Today, the Prius has become a mainstream vehicle. It is the third-best selling car in the Toyota line, and an icon for the company. Owner loyalty figures are among the highest in the automotive industry.
So JJ as you continue to show that no matter how much you distort the truth, the people have spoken and they continue to buy the Prius at an average rate of 15,000 a month. Numbers that GM wish they could achieve in the hybrid market.

Toyota’s lowly Prius accounts for less than 1% of sales. Further, hybrids are a gag regardless of what brand, hence the entire market only comprises about 2.5% of sales.

With China and India belching so much crap into the atmosphere, your “saved” emissions are a pipe dream. Save the world brother, can you say bamboozle?

Carry on –

whatever wrote:

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Great! I actually love your response! When you are hit with undisputable facts you cower behind a lame and unrelated excuse about emotion. WTF?? haha...
And when asked a very simple and basic question about your lack of credibility you have absolutely no comeback.
Another showing of how you are unable to cope with the truth. Sweeeeet....

You are correct about JJFADS' deflection tactics.
When confronted with a simple truth, or almost any any rational and objective challenge, rest assured JJ will immediately open up a rabbit trail!

Less than 1% -

THAT was a typical JJFADS rabbit trail!

Not unexpected really.

Hey JJ---When in doubt, mumble---eh?

Simply stating fact that you two evidently can’t stomach-

More rabbit trails from JJFADS.

This is getting ridiculous!

Do not eat the rabbit!

JJFADS wrote:

Do not eat the rabbit!

We're not about to JJ.

You said it yourself--"We can't stomach it"

Besides, the rabbit needs no help in being eaten---oops---I meant "beaten"

Now your rabbit trails seem to be getting more desperate.

Who in the hell cares about a Prius? Only rod suckers, democrats, and lesbians drive em.