Group rallies against Navajo Water Rights Settlement

"within their right to do so" There you have it, now quit squealing.

Brain food for the un-knowing.

http://www.ose.state.nm.us/water-info/NavajoS...

Thanks for doing this story.
Scary.

I so hate farmington and aztec right now so eff all u ppl who are opposing. I think the Navajo Nation needs water more than any of you in eff town...if you haven't noticed, the NN IS a 3rd world country. We live off the earth more than any of u, we use outhouses because we have no running water... we have livestock, our stream beds are contaminated with uranium... so shut the EFF up and step down already! give us Dine a break.

Saani wrote:

I so hate farmington and aztec right now so eff all u ppl who are opposing. I think the Navajo Nation needs water more than any of you in eff town...if you haven't noticed, the NN IS a 3rd world country. We live off the earth more than any of u, we use outhouses because we have no running water... we have livestock, our stream beds are contaminated with uranium... so shut the EFF up and step down already! give us Dine a break.

And what would you do with it if you got the water rights? Does NAPI use all the water it has had for years? How would you get the water to your land? Would the taxpayers then have to pay for pipelines for you to get your water? Would your land actually be able to grow anything even if it had water? If the NN is a 3rd world country as you say, it is because of your leadership or lack thereof. No one has ever stopped you from drilling wells for water have they? No one has ever stopped you from bringing electricity to your home if you wanted to pay for it just like everyone else does if they live in the country. You have to help yourself, the world doesn't owe anyone anything. It is what you work for that you will have. People need to quit thinking they are owed something because of something that happened decades and centuries ago. You are what you make of yourself. People that have farmed and irrigated land for decades should not lose their water for someone that maybe, someday, if they ever get some ambition and their government decides to let them, and they get some more money from the government will maybe try and plant a few plants or get a cow or two. Farmers are what are feeding us and frankly, there aren't a whole lot of them left around. Look how few fruit orchards remain here when their used to be hundreds.

The government has shared with the reservation for
over 100 years, not only resources but millions and
millions of dollars.
Can we name them as dependents on our tax returns?
There is no accountability for millions of dollars
received, not only for the annual fair, take notice
of last year when there was 2 watchdog groups and the money still vanished.
NAPI receives millions of dollars a year and has never been profitable.
Nor is there accountability for failed business enterprises.
There is many government paid services, hospitals,
schools and just about any government agency that
provides services.
When are you going to be independent?
Quit living in the past, plan for the future and
follow through.

It has been proven many people have stolen
funds from different areas and yet there is nothing
done to them and that is why the theft continues.
The Navajo Nation is a sovereign nation which has or wants
supreme and independent power or authority in government as possessed
or claimed by a state or community without outside interference.
This means indepedence not only from outside interference in government affairs
but independent on making the millions of dollars invested productive.

Like I said, the link below is for the ignoramuses; feel free to sponge in the information. It's a lot for microcephalics, but it should bring forth enlightenment.

http://www.ose.state.nm.us/water-info/NavajoS...

Old Dog wrote:

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And what would you do with it if you got the water rights? Does NAPI use all the water it has had for years? How would you get the water to your land? Would the taxpayers then have to pay for pipelines for you to get your water? Would your land actually be able to grow anything even if it had water? If the NN is a 3rd world country as you say, it is because of your leadership or lack thereof. No one has ever stopped you from drilling wells for water have they? No one has ever stopped you from bringing electricity to your home if you wanted to pay for it just like everyone else does if they live in the country. You have to help yourself, the world doesn't owe anyone anything. It is what you work for that you will have. People need to quit thinking they are owed something because of something that happened decades and centuries ago. You are what you make of yourself. People that have farmed and irrigated land for decades should not lose their water for someone that maybe, someday, if they ever get some ambition and their government decides to let them, and they get some more money from the government will maybe try and plant a few plants or get a cow or two. Farmers are what are feeding us and frankly, there aren't a whole lot of them left around. Look how few fruit orchards remain here when their used to be hundreds.

So you can float your boat and contaminate it. It actually belongs to the Navajo Nation!

Ollie wrote:

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So you can float your boat and contaminate it. It actually belongs to the Navajo Nation!

What belongs to the Navajo Nation? If you are saying water "belongs" to the Navajo Nation, isn't that what all the millions and millions and millions poured into NAPI was supposed to take care of? If you had all the water in the world you still wouldn't do anything with it.

water is sacred.

Don't worry about the Navajos west of Farmington to Shiprock, Rob Mayes is giving them water from the Animas River where they have no water rights at all - the water rights are coming from the backs of the Farmington taxpayers who are being charged monthly on their water bills. Rob Mayes says it is only a lone of water rights - Fire Rob Mayes, now !!

Dissolve the NN government, sell assets and distribute proceeds back to the people and end this nonsense of sovereign rule. The people have proven again and again and again and agin they are unable to run business, govern or operate as anything close to a legitimate entity. Yeah and btw I would be scared as they are trying to hoard water from upstream farmers.

"Pollack ..., but he believed it was within their right to do so. "

Believing something to be true and it actually being true are two different things. Pollack may believe in teh Easter Bunny but that doesnt make him/her real.

Ditch runner wrote:

"within their right to do so" There you have it, now quit squealing.

Pay them in cheap wine and malt licquor--at least the people would get some benifit

Again, here is the link, inform your brain instead of claimimg your 15 seconds of lame for being "unedjumacated"

http://www.ose.state.nm.us/water-info/NavajoS...

life is not fair when a bunch of hillbilles start whinning and not get their way. but water is the root to life and prosperity look at las vegas without it it would be a ghost town. sharing is caring and if you dont care then your just as selfish as the rest of fmt. with more water you can build more and pave the way to a good life. so why dont you drink that cheap wine and malt licquor for your benfit to commet cheap bill.

The stupid u.s govt gave the dine' people land that doesn't even have water to supply to homes that actually have families. The dine' people don't have the $ and resources from our stupid u.s govt. to help us build real pipelines. The dine' can't do anything right because the white man corrupted the minds of the dine'. Thus the white man has $ and resources to do what they want with water.

dineh wrote:

The stupid u.s govt gave the dine' people land that doesn't even have water to supply to homes that actually have families. The dine' people don't have the $ and resources from our stupid u.s govt. to help us build real pipelines. The dine' can't do anything right because the white man corrupted the minds of the dine'. Thus the white man has $ and resources to do what they want with water.

get a grip.

Did You Know wrote:

Did you know that:

1. The US federal government, in collusion with non-Navajo businesses, have stolen billions and billions of dollars from the Navajo Nation. Case in point, during the Reagen Administration, the NN priced it's Black Mesa coal at a royalty rate of $45. DOI Secretary Hodel, in collusion with Peabody Coal, cut the price to a third, against the advice of his own BIA. As of 2000, this has cost the Nation over $600 million.

2. Every year, the federal government budgets nearly a billion dollars for Indian Affairs. They then mandate what it must be spent on. Over 90% of the budget is spent on travel, training, salaries, benefits for nearly 10,000 federal (white) employees. What little that makes it to the Indian people is earmarked for ineffective wasteful programs such as the "Make Indian Education Safe". A stupid program that mandates that teachers get security training.

3. For nearly 15 years, the NAPI was run by Red Ball Management, a non-Navajo mgmt company. RBM was approved by a federal bureaucrat and the Navajo Nations compliants about it were ignored. Today, the mgmt is all Navajo and according to objective sources, is actually seeing vast improvements.

4. NAPI is twentieth on the list of US farms subsidies. Over a 14 yr period, NAPI has received $17M while the top receipant was Rice farms at $554M.

5. It is in the best interest of the federal government to keep the navajo nation completely dependent on itself. It cannot become soveriegn as long as the federal government imposes it rules, laws, regulations on the Navajo from cradle to grave. It just cannot.

Mel wrote:

Dissolve the NN government, sell assets and distribute proceeds back to the people and end this nonsense of sovereign rule. The people have proven again and again and again and agin they are unable to run business, govern or operate as anything close to a legitimate entity. Yeah and btw I would be scared as they are trying to hoard water from upstream farmers.

Excuse me, but how does one hoard water from an upstream user, if you're downstream?