Va. farm accused of pig abuse

It is descusting to see the way these helpless animals are treated. This needs to be corrected now. Oprah, and others in high places, please speak for these helpless animals, whom we should respect.

Im sorry but they are food. Cats & dogs are pets.

lupe23451 wrote:

Im sorry but they are food. Cats & dogs are pets.

Pigs are not "food". They are intelligent, inquistive, sentient beings. Pigs are smarter than dogs, and they have a strong will to live, just as any animal, human or non human. They feel pain and fear, and they fight for their lives. Your ignorance and indifference is disturbing. You have been brainwashed. I am "sorry" that you are incapable of empathy or thinking for yourself. What you call your "pets", people in China, Korea, the Philippines...and other parts of the world call "food". Maybe someday you will think for yourself instead of blindly following what you are told. All animals feel pain and fear. All animals have the will to live. No animal deserves to suffer and die for the sake of human ignorance, greed, callousness and cruelty.

I see the PSYCHO post decorator is on duty tonight. My my, 5 nuts, 5 dim bulbs, and 4 red x's in 10 minutes. Quite a frenzied freak out for ya, wasn't it? Better hurry and match this post with the rest!! GET HELP, PSYCHO.

The most hilarious thing is that all of those silly decorations do NOT hide the TRUTH. Animals are not here for humans to do what they wish, and ESPECIALLY not here to endure confinement, pain, suffering, beatings, and brutal death. The fact that idiots are actually freaking out and wasting time putting ridiculous judging icons on these posts, only proves how threatened the ignorant, corpse munching zombies are. Hurry and decorate this post, psycho!

Hey psycho post decorator, please elaborate on why you find post #2 to be "helpful" and "brilliant". Cats and dogs are "pets", and that is brilliant and helpful??LOL. seriously, GET HELP, PSYCHO. But please be sure to give this post several decorations STAT!

Unbelievable.

Hunters are PSYCHOPATHS wrote:

<quoted text>Pigs are not "food". They are intelligent, inquistive, sentient beings. Pigs are smarter than dogs, and they have a strong will to live, just as any animal, human or non human. They feel pain and fear, and they fight for their lives. Your ignorance and indifference is disturbing. You have been brainwashed. I am "sorry" that you are incapable of empathy or thinking for yourself. What you call your "pets", people in China, Korea, the Philippines...and other parts of the world call "food". Maybe someday you will think for yourself instead of blindly following what you are told. All animals feel pain and fear. All animals have the will to live. No animal deserves to suffer and die for the sake of human ignorance, greed, callousness and cruelty.

Hypocrite much? You want everyone to follow you. Not. ever. going. to. happen. Face it, you've been unmasked as the Topix post decorator. You do this crap because you're an attention wh()re.

PSYCHOKEEFE, you are such a pathetic POS. FIRST of all, this thread is pertaining to the abuse and cruelty of pigs, something that you do not care about. You do not care about ANY cruelty to animals whatsoever.YOU are a nasty, miserable, animal hating hag who spends every waking hour obsessing over posts in the ANIMAL RIGHTS forums. No one has been "unmasked" of anything besides the fact that YOU are a mentally disturbed, forum obsessed freak, who pollutes topix with the same, STALE, OLD trash over and over and over. You also spend all day putting the ridiculous decorations on posts, INCLUDING your own.Anyone who has read your lunacy can see the insanity of your posts and your frenzied decorating sprees.YOU need to face the FACT that I guide new people EVERY SINGLE DAY, to live more compassionate lives. EVERY DAY, I help MORE people who omit corpses from their diets.How many vegetarians/vegans have you influenced to start eating corpses today?The past week?Month?A big ZERO. You are pathetic. GET HELP, PSYCHO.

gokeefe wrote:

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Hypocrite much? You want everyone to follow you. Not. ever. going. to. happen. Face it, you've been unmasked as the Topix post decorator. You do this crap because you're an attention wh()re.

"hypocrite much"??? Thanks for proving once again, that you are NOT a writer. FYI, I don't need to "want" people to "follow me", psycho, they already seek me out on a DAILY BASIS. I don't consider them to be "followers", they are simply well informed, compassionate people who seek a bit of guidance.. I don't need attention. Unlike you, I get plenty of attention and fulfillment from the wonderful, interesting, warm people that I spend time with every day. Too bad your life is SO miserable and empty, self inflicted, no doubt. That's why you spend every waking hour on topix. You still have a few hours left, don't you?.You'd better hop on the decoration duty!!lol! GET HELP, PSYCHO.

Wow. I must really upset you. Two anger-filled rambling rants in response to a 3-line message I sent. Obsessive much?

ha ha ha ha !! this is just funny.
Pigs are sensitive, intelligent animals, who - if you choose - can be a pet. Dogs and cats are also sensitive intelligent animals who - if you choose - can be a pet. However, America has choosen to utilize/raise/breed/etc pigs for food/consumption. Anyone's thoughts and feelings on this are probably welcome, but real rambling on one persons feelings (like I'm doing here - ha ha) are just funny. Its a persons personal choice to eat pork, or not (actually I think bacon is one of the absolute best foods ever!!). What you may feel is abusive handling of this animal, may not be in others eyes. Unfortunately I am one of those rare individuals who tries to see both sides. In this case I don't think "Hunters are PSYCHOPATHS" is one of those rare individuals. However, they are entitled to their opinion - whatever it may be. We have the ability to ignore it and try to look past it and see the issue.
If this farm is abusing animals, it should be fined, shut down, etc. There are laws to see that this handled.

gokeefe wrote:

Wow. I must really upset you. Two anger-filled rambling rants in response to a 3-line message I sent. Obsessive much?

No, psycho, obsessive is people who start their day, every day, obsessing over ANIMAL RIGHTS forums. Obsessive is someone who spends the entire morning, afternoon, evening and late night, hovering and obsessing over ANIMAL RIGHTS forums. Mentally disturbed, OBSESSIVE freaks, like YOU, spend every waking hour on these forums. You are incapable of retorting intelligently, maturely, or civilly. You also frantically "decorate" posts. You also use multple monickers, and you even praise your own self. You're mentally disturbed. It's obvious to any sane, sensible person who reads the garbage you pollute these threads with. You need serious psychoatric counseling.GET HELP, PSYCHO.

Just Rambling wrote:

ha ha ha ha !! this is just funny.
Pigs are sensitive, intelligent animals, who - if you choose - can be a pet. Dogs and cats are also sensitive intelligent animals who - if you choose - can be a pet. However, America has choosen to utilize/raise/breed/etc pigs for food/consumption. Anyone's thoughts and feelings on this are probably welcome, but real rambling on one persons feelings (like I'm doing here - ha ha) are just funny. Its a persons personal choice to eat pork, or not (actually I think bacon is one of the absolute best foods ever!!). What you may feel is abusive handling of this animal, may not be in others eyes. Unfortunately I am one of those rare individuals who tries to see both sides.

"Ramble" all you want, but I fail to see the humor in animal suffering. Anyone who can view these videos and say there is no abuse or cruelty, is a psychopath. Animal suffering is not simply an "opinion", it is a despicable reality that needs to be stopped.

Hunters are Psychopaths - I'm laughing because you are coming across as an idiot. You probably aren't & I'm trying really hard not to judge. Chill out. I don't believe that animal suffering is funny - I just believe your rambling is. Remember we live in a free country where we all have the right to our opinions. If "gokeefe" wants to hunt and kill animals which are in season, and eat pork all day long - than God Bless This USA - they can do it!! If you choose to picket, or protest against hunting, for animal rights, or whatever - than once again God Bless This USA - you go for it!! All I have to say is don't judge "gokeefe" for their opinion. But also, try to not sound so much like an idiot when you type. I'm glad you're obiviously passionate about your beliefs but chill the hell out! Please try to have a great day! Also - if you're in PA - why are you worried about something that's happening in Smithfield VA?(remember Smithfield is the Ham Capital of the World!!).

Hunters are PSYCHOPATHS wrote:

<quoted text>No, psycho, obsessive is people who start their day, every day, obsessing over ANIMAL RIGHTS forums. Obsessive is someone who spends the entire morning, afternoon, evening and late night, hovering and obsessing over ANIMAL RIGHTS forums. Mentally disturbed, OBSESSIVE freaks, like YOU, spend every waking hour on these forums. You are incapable of retorting intelligently, maturely, or civilly. You also frantically "decorate" posts. You also use multple monickers, and you even praise your own self. You're mentally disturbed. It's obvious to any sane, sensible person who reads the garbage you pollute these threads with. You need serious psychoatric counseling.GET HELP, PSYCHO.

Sorry to disappoint, but I only use one login. You have ignored my request to state your beliefs and and provide any backup to that statement. So I can only assume you have FAILED here.

I also don't "decorate" posts. Again, sorry to disappoint. This is a public forum and no doubt, many read and judge without posting. Happens throughout the thousands of forums in Topix. Again, you have no basis to prove this statement.

You are free to believe what you wish about me. But again, to reiterate an idea you yammered on about before, the topic at hand isn't about me. If you don't like what I post, you don't have to respond three times to each of my posts to vent your anger. Also remember I have the same right to believe what I wish about you and am free to communicate that as well.

As for praising myself, you're deluded. I may be self-confident and have no issues about feeling inadequate if someone wishes to debate an idea or a topic. However, I do defend myself when someone takes it to a personal level--which is something you prefer to do. You really are an obsessed individual and have no sense of humor and cannot accept that there ARE valid and rational ways for others to live that do not agree with your small minded world view. You refuse to accept the notion that opposition does exist and you cannot live with that peacefully. I don't give a crap whether you life a vegan lifestyle so long as it doesn't infringe on my life. It DOES infringe on my life when you insist that animals have rights "to live their lives without pain or suffering" and then demand that there be no meat eating, hunting, or animal research in this world. Sorry dearie... there is sound scientific research and reason as well as sound moral and philosophical reason for eating meat, animal research, and hunting. If you wish to not accept that idea and live peacefully with it, that is YOUR problem. You nor I can control the world. The best we can do is influence it. And unfortunately, you are failing at that idea. I do believe the Dalai Lama has said that we do not see the world as it is, we see the world as WE ARE.

I'm happy being a wool and leather wearing, moderate meat consuming, pro-scientific research supporter. For many reasons. Hunters I know are some of the most helpful and moral people I know, as well as compassionate. I cannot speak for all hunters, but I can speak for those I know. Most donate a good part of their harvest to food banks and they hunt to feed their families and because they do see the world as one big eatery. No carnivorous animal will give a crap if they eat me. Why should I worry then if I eat animals?

Telling me my thinking is unoriginal is an ad hominem debate tactic. I can tell YOU that you are just spouting the PETA mantras and that you sound as if Ingrid had indoctrinated you.

Oh psychokeefe, you ALWAYS disappoint, everyone in your life is disappointed by you! The big FAILURE here is YOU. You DO decorate posts, psycho. You decorate your own, and you give little "hearts" to fugly Brian when he posts asinine trash. You fool no one, psycho....except yourself, of course! The rest of your dull, self absorbed jabbering, nearly put me to sleep, as usual. You are a mentally disturbed, animal hating, corpse munching hag, who laughs at animal suffering and deaths. You envy and HATE anyone who speaks out against animal cruelty. You are SICK. You spend EVERY WAKING HOUR obsessing over ANIMAL RIGHTS FORUMS. All you do is scream that animals "don't have rights" and regurgutate a heap load of IGNORANT TRASH. You're a mentally ill, freak. You need psychiatric help. Make a resolution to see a psychiatrist and help your psychosis. GET HELP, PSYCHO. Enjoy your next flailing, and be sure to decorate this post!

Wow, psychokeefe, you decorated that pretty fast!! Better put a few extras on it, and maybe put a few more "brilliant" icons, like on the post of yours (#11) where you said NOTHING significant or interesting, yet it gets rated "brilliant, funny, and interesting"!!! LOL, you all really are your own biggest fans!! You fool no one, you pathetic old farts! GET HELP, FREAKS

To "Just Rambling"- YOU are not only an idiot, but a complete hypocrite. You do not dictate how I choose to address anyone. Your hypocrisy is laughable. You say that one person can do and say what they wish, but that I can't "judge" them?? Meanwhile you blatantly judge me and call me an idiot?? YOU are the idiot, and a pathetic hypocrite. Yes indeed, we live in a free country, and I will choose my "worries" and concerns no matter what they are, or where they are. You need to get a grip and stfu about what or how I choose to post. Unbelievable how you freaky trolls neglect to look in the mirror. bah bye, IDIOT.

lupe23451 wrote:

Im sorry but they are food. Cats & dogs are pets.

From the article: "Photos and video from the investigation showed about 1,000 large female pigs crammed into metal crates that severely limited their ability to move. The pigs stay in the crates, also called sow stalls, during their four-month pregnancies. Afterward, they are moved for about three weeks to a crate large enough to nurse their piglets before being artificially inseminated and placed back into the gestation crates.

Seven states have passed laws banning gestation crates, and the European Union is phasing out their use by 2013. However, the crates are legal in Virginia."

They can take a step forward or backward and can lay on their sides. No turning around or other movement. Animals ARE intelligent animals and should not be restricted in this manner for months on end.

They may be considered food by many, but that should not be a reason for mistreatment or outright abuse.