Torrance expects to approve site for new transit center

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Torrance is on the verge of regaining the transit center it lost more than four years ago.
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Aug 31, 2009
 
Transit center, training facility, anything but housing. I like the direction the seller is going..
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Sep 1, 2009
 

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$18 million for a toxic waste site, but they couldn't keep the route down Western open? Then how much more to build the transit center? I'd rather just have a few more MTA routes and a night owl line from Hollywood or downtown and give up on the city transit all together.
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Sep 1, 2009
 

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Just a joke: wonder how much the mayor is getting as a kick-back?
nimby

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Sep 1, 2009
 
What about us who live on or near Crenshaw? How are they going to build a car pool lane ON CRENSHAW? Are they going to take away my front yard? How is this going to impact businesses on Crenshaw? And what about the increased traffic and noise? Doesn't there need to be an environmental impact report?
tothebiodome

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Sep 1, 2009
 
nimby wrote:
What about us who live on or near Crenshaw? How are they going to build a car pool lane ON CRENSHAW? Are they going to take away my front yard? How is this going to impact businesses on Crenshaw? And what about the increased traffic and noise? Doesn't there need to be an environmental impact report?
Yeah you are pretty much out of luck. There will be a "freeway running through the yard" as Tom Petty once sang. Your pets will be run over and you will have to run accross the freeway to go get something from the market. The plan is to erect some giant bilboards on your property too. At least your kids will have fun climbing up them. I'd move tomorrow if I were you.
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Sep 1, 2009
 
This is the Mayor Scottos big joke of doing something.

Overpay for contaminated industrial land that is sure to dig up more harmful contaminates. Who pays then?

Then propose adding lanes on Crenshaw Blvd which will cost upwards to 40 million more for the land and improvements. But the owner said no housing will go there.

What a joke and waste of taxpayer money weather its local or federal. I tend to agree there is something funny going on here.
Steve in Torrance

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#10
Sep 1, 2009
 
Someone please refresh my memory. How much did crime drop when they removed the transit center from DelAmo?
Resident

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Sep 1, 2009
 
Think Del Amo mall is bad now....wait until we bus in the hood rats. Crime went down when the mall bus terminal closed.
Joe in Torrance

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Sep 1, 2009
 
The City reduced the fire and police budgets; but they have $18 million for contaminated property.
WoW

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Sep 1, 2009
 
The point is that there is already a railroad rigt of way going right through the city. It has not been used for several years except to store the occasional rail car. It's almost a sure bet that the sight is contaminated. The seller is wise to rule out housing. About the only thing you could put on the spot is another industrial site or the transit center. With the tracks already in place, the sight would be a perfect fit. For those complaining of the cost for the land, keep in mind that despite the contamination, the land is still worth the cost. Once the land is gone, it will be more difficult to put the transit center anywhere else and will be at a higher cost.
Toxic Mess Cometh

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Sep 1, 2009
 
WoW wrote:
The point is that there is already a railroad rigt of way going right through the city. It has not been used for several years except to store the occasional rail car. It's almost a sure bet that the sight is contaminated. The seller is wise to rule out housing. About the only thing you could put on the spot is another industrial site or the transit center. With the tracks already in place, the sight would be a perfect fit. For those complaining of the cost for the land, keep in mind that despite the contamination, the land is still worth the cost. Once the land is gone, it will be more difficult to put the transit center anywhere else and will be at a higher cost.
The Mayor should stop commenting about his ideas to cost the city money.
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Sep 1, 2009
 
If there was an actual commitment to take the money we voted to tax ourselves in the last election for transit and extend the proposed rail line from downtown into Artesia Transit Center all the way into Torrance at this new center and it ran like the other rail lines to midnight or later, I would change my position radically and support the new center. But I just don't believe it will ever happen. That would allow commuters a straight shot into downtown or Hollywood or even west LA, when they get the orange line going.

You can't just take millions, even if the feds do kick in, and misuse the money we voted for transit and sink it ALL in an overpriced station. We expect better routes/more frequent service/longer route hours too.
wake up joe

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Sep 2, 2009
 
Joe in Torrance wrote:
The City reduced the fire and police budgets; but they have $18 million for contaminated property.
it's about time the city cut their budgets. isn't 75% a bit much of the pie to be directed to only two departments?

say what you want about the public safety angle because the use of the fear tactic by the fire department and especially the police is overblown.

as if the police are the only ones that separate us from crime. we have our own guns to protect our own property and we still have the right to use them in spite of what the cops think.

their attitude to to completely disarm our society so they are the only ones with the guns.

as for the fire department, is it really necessary to run a hook and ladder to a traffic accident? well, maybe i am stretching the hook and ladder scenario a bit but rolling fire engines for incidental circumstances that they know is truly not needed is wasting tax dollars.

tax dollars. the cops and fire departments think it's their bottemless ATM. keep telling yourself, joe, how much they really care about you when they are making over a hundred grand in retirement and don't give a dung about it.

my only consilation to this greedy, selfish madness is that they are all obese when they hit retirement and with any luck, well, maybe only a couple or three years of fishing trips are all that they will have left.

sweet justice.
Bob

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Sep 2, 2009
 
Its not good to let those fire trucks sit and not run them. If they did not take them to accidents they would just sit. Which shows that they are over paid.
wake up joe wrote:
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it's about time the city cut their budgets. isn't 75% a bit much of the pie to be directed to only two departments?
say what you want about the public safety angle because the use of the fear tactic by the fire department and especially the police is overblown.
as if the police are the only ones that separate us from crime. we have our own guns to protect our own property and we still have the right to use them in spite of what the cops think.
their attitude to to completely disarm our society so they are the only ones with the guns.
as for the fire department, is it really necessary to run a hook and ladder to a traffic accident? well, maybe i am stretching the hook and ladder scenario a bit but rolling fire engines for incidental circumstances that they know is truly not needed is wasting tax dollars.
tax dollars. the cops and fire departments think it's their bottemless ATM. keep telling yourself, joe, how much they really care about you when they are making over a hundred grand in retirement and don't give a dung about it.
my only consilation to this greedy, selfish madness is that they are all obese when they hit retirement and with any luck, well, maybe only a couple or three years of fishing trips are all that they will have left.
sweet justice.
Ronnie

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Sep 2, 2009
 

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The old transit center was west of the parking structure and could have remained. The buses did not bring in the crime that city officials overstated, but when the transit center closed the mall started to die.

Nick Green never really checks his stories for the truth. He just prints what he is told.

The new transit center will be good just in the wrong place!

Torrance Transit needs to restructer their routes!

Line 1 should go downtown more.(like all day)
line 2 should stop at the greenline.
Line 3 is to busy and full
Line 5 needs 2 buses on both sides of the street.
Line 6 needs to run more often.
line 7 needs to run more offten too!
Line 8 is the best!
Line 9 also needs more service!

You should NEVER have wait over a hour to catch the bus!

So Frankie Scotto if you really want a transit center fix your bus routes NOW!
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Sep 2, 2009
 
The crime argument I think is invalid, I seem to recall a riot that occurred at the mall just a few months ago. Having buses avoid the mall because there might be more crime is like saying it's not have credit cards because there might be fraud. The city Council clowns blew it they need to put the transit center or a transit center in that empty space by the mall to get rid of that ridiculous valet area and have buses pull right up to the promenade. I know if I had business at the mall I would much rather see a busload of people (customers) pull up even in those ugly torrance buses instead of just one or two people pulling will up in an Escalade. The 18 million would be much better spent sprucing up torrances buses.
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Sep 2, 2009
 
If I go to Hollywood to catch a show on the weekend, the only buses that run anywhere near the South Bay that late go down Avalon Blvd -- until 12:45 from downtown. If you want to hear a concert until it ends, the only night owl service is the 45 through Watts and Compton until it u-turns at Del Amo/Avalon. Then it is a 5 mile bike ride to even reach Western/Sepulveda where I need to go. Major cities in other states and countries do a far better job of providing public transit.

The 232 and other MTA routes end too early to go out at night from anywhere around the Riviera or the beach areas.
Ronnie

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#21
Sep 4, 2009
 
We need real transit that works and torrance won't see that until thye hire a real Transit Director!

Have you ever talked to that airhead Kim Turner?

Our city council just does not understand public transportation!

Unless it's on the back of a Tow truck!
James

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#22
Sep 4, 2009
 
I think this new transit center is a good idea. The location is very forward-thinking.

People always think too short-term.

Well, for once the City of Torrance is thinking several years ahead. Maybe there is no light rail line there now, but look at what Los Angeles public transit looks like today compared to what it looked like just 10 years ago, or even 20 years ago. Rail transit is growing by leaps and bounds. Do you honestly think that growth will skip the South Bay?

I think the time will come when either a light rail line or a commuter train line will be built on the "Harbor Sub". Imagine being able to take a train to LAX or to downtown Los Angeles faster than you can drive there by car.

When that time comes, if this gets built, the current mayor and council will look like innovative, visionary geniuses.
keeping an eye out

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#23
Sep 4, 2009
 
we voted him in to office,trust me you need to vote him out of office next chance we have.have you seen long beach? that should tell you enough.

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