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<quoted text> Kid, you have no idea about venom. But then again, you just make up silly bullsh!t to fit your dishonesty. And that's just one reason I have only contempt and disdain for you.
Next you'll claim you don't care, but it has already been well established that you're a liar. With malice.
What specifically is it that you think iv'e made up? I have been as honest and true to the heart as a person can be. Do you know why I argue against you so much? Yes, I know you support civil unions, but you're whole philosophy about the gay issue is that we ought to take what we can get, shut up, and quit whining. Regardless of how moderate you consider yourself, this is not one of those issues which I, nor anyone else, should be prepared to compromise upon. Everyone, lest they seek to harm another person, is entitled to equal dignity and respect. If you think me pushing that kind of message makes me a disingenuous liar, then so be it. You are not the yardstick by which I measure my own self worth.
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What specifically is it that you think iv'e made up? I have been as honest and true to the heart as a person can be.
Not even close. But I am reminded of the line "The rabbi who must praise himself has a congregation of one."
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<quoted text> Do you know why I argue against you so much?
Would it upset you that I didn't really care?
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<quoted text> Yes, I know you support civil unions, but you're whole philosophy about the gay issue is that we ought to take what we can get, shut up, and quit whining. Regardless of how moderate you consider yourself, this is not one of those issues which I, nor anyone else, should be prepared to compromise upon. Everyone, lest they seek to harm another person, is entitled to equal dignity and respect. If you think me pushing that kind of message makes me a disingenuous liar, then so be it. You are not the yardstick by which I measure my own self worth.
1. You don't know my "whole philosophy." You just make up crap to suit your prejudices.

2. In one sense, I agree with you. I do not believe anybody is 'entitled' to dignity and respect so I suppose there is some equanimity in that. I believe respect must be earned, and dignity is not something any person can get from another. If you have it, nobody can really take it away from you. And if you don't, nobody can really bestow it upon you.

3. I'm not convinced that you are smart enough to be the arbiter to decide what anyone/everyone should or should not compromise on.

4. I would never set myself as the yardstick by which anyone should measure themselves. My standards are, by definition, my own. My friends and business associates have similarly high standards. You would be hard pressed to even come close to those. Again by definition, isn't "self worth" how you value your own worth? Isn't that what the "self" part of that term is about?

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<quoted text> Not even close. But I am reminded of the line "The rabbi who must praise himself has a congregation of one."
<quoted text> Would it upset you that I didn't really care?
<quoted text>1. You don't know my "whole philosophy." You just make up crap to suit your prejudices.
2. In one sense, I agree with you. I do not believe anybody is 'entitled' to dignity and respect so I suppose there is some equanimity in that. I believe respect must be earned, and dignity is not something any person can get from another. If you have it, nobody can really take it away from you. And if you don't, nobody can really bestow it upon you.
3. I'm not convinced that you are smart enough to be the arbiter to decide what anyone/everyone should or should not compromise on.
4. I would never set myself as the yardstick by which anyone should measure themselves. My standards are, by definition, my own. My friends and business associates have similarly high standards. You would be hard pressed to even come close to those. Again by definition, isn't "self worth" how you value your own worth? Isn't that what the "self" part of that term is about?
Callinectes sapidus, an egotistical prick! Why don't you listen to yourself for a change? Christ! I mean, you attack my character and then accuse me of being high on myself for getting on the defensive. I'm on to you. Just about everything you accuse everyone else of is what you are yourself guilty of.
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Callinectes sapidus, an egotistical prick!
Blue crabs?(yes, I had to look that up.) And you call me "an egotistical prick?"
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<quoted text> Why don't you listen to yourself for a change?
Why? I already know what I said. I even have an advantage in that I actually *understand* what I said.
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<quoted text> Christ! I mean, you attack my character and then accuse me of being high on myself for getting on the defensive. I'm on to you.
No, Josh. You're not even close.
Josh in New Orleans wrote:
<quoted text> Just about everything you accuse everyone else of is what you are yourself guilty of.
You keep thinking that, Josh, if it gives you a tingle.

It has been said that the truth shall set you free. I invite you to risk that someday. Freedom is a wonderful thing.

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Blue crabs?(yes, I had to look that up.) And you call me "an egotistical prick?"
Yes, and yes. You are one crabby egotistical SOB.

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<quoted text> Why? I already know what I said. I even have an advantage in that I actually *understand* what I said.
Well that makes one of us.

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The proof is in the pudding.

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<quoted text> You keep thinking that, Josh, if it gives you a tingle.
It has been said that the truth shall set you free. I invite you to risk that someday. Freedom is a wonderful thing.
Yes, freedom is a wonderful thing, but not something I believe you truly do not believe in. If not for freedom, then in most states I would not be allowed to marry. If not for freedom I could have joined the military as a gay teenager in the nineties. If not for freedom I would have been considered a FN criminal for having had sex prior to the Supreme court ruling in 2003. If not for freedom then I could possibly have been fired from my job for being gay. If not for freedom then i'd have to worry about taking my husband and our child back to my home state of Louisiana for fear that he'd be taken away! F u, you don't know a damned thing about what made up bullshit is 'cause it's people like you making it all up! I live a reality you only postulate about!
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Poor Josh. Another one from your side unable to resist making a fool of yourself all because of one, little breeder. How sad for you.

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Poor Josh. Another one from your side unable to resist making a fool of yourself all because of one, little breeder. How sad for you.
Why would you disparage of yourself on account of me?

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