GM files for bankruptcy

Zoe wrote:

Oh! Forgot to say, unsafe too. Let's see how safe people feel in one when they drive next to my SUV. All I have to say is, if you think you can plow over me and survive, then attempt it, I know I will come out alive.

Regardless of how much horse power, one can only go the speed limit of 70 or 55 MPH. What good has it ever done to put a massive engine in a car that can't beyond 70 MPH on the expressway? What a waste of gas. The Japanese and import companies design nice-styled cars and with gas mileage to boot. The bowtie look is getting to be old hat.

It's funny how the left studies evolution like crazy, but yet can't stand a system like, Capitalism which works like nature-evolution in every since of the word.

In Capitalism, businesses emerge, take shape, grow big and strong. Now, some companies die out quickly at birth, some companies don't, the ones that don't die out at birth, can live a long time, taking on many shapes within its life time, and while this is all happening, they have to compete with other companies for resources, consumers, some companies can re-brand themselves, restructure, or merge with other companies to create something completely new. Some companies over time suffer from old age and become antiquated or they become infected by viruses, such as corruption, or their own system begins to attack them, greedily consuming precious resources from the body, like a cancer. Does the Unions ring a bell? But don't fret, the beauty about Capitalism is that if a company falls a new one will rise to take its place, sort of like how mammals rose-up and took the place of dinosaurs when the opportunity arose. It took a while for life to bounce back on planet Earth, but it did, and did it!

Think of the government as the sun and the private sector as the ozone, take away the ozone and the organism dies from radiation. Make sense?

Compare that to how socialism works.

IMHO wrote:

<quoted text>Regardless of how much horse power, one can only go the speed limit of 70 or 55 MPH. What good has it ever done to put a massive engine in a car that can't beyond 70 MPH on the expressway? What a waste of gas. The Japanese and import companies design nice-styled cars and with gas mileage to boot. The bowtie look is getting to be old hat.

Well, I know that most Americans want fuel efficient cars. Hell, it makes since to want a car that saves money. However, if GM and Chrysler didn't recognize the trends, it isn't our problem. It isn't and shouldn't be a burden on the tax payers to save these companies, they, the companies, should have recognized the need to change a long time ago, but they didn't. They should have filed for bankruptcy instead of hopping into bed with the government, or they should have been allowed to die. The fact is there will always be a demand for vehicles, a new American car industry could or should have been allowed to arise out of the ashes of Detroit. Instead, now Americans will have to subsidize GM and Chrysler workers, because apparently each GM and Chrysler job is going to cost 430 some odd thousand dollars to keep and maintain, from what I've read.

Zoe wrote:

It's funny how the left studies evolution like crazy, but yet can't stand a system like, Capitalism which works like nature-evolution in every since of the word.
In Capitalism, businesses emerge, take shape, grow big and strong. Now, some companies die out quickly at birth, some companies don't, the ones that don't die out at birth, can live a long time, taking on many shapes within its life time, and while this is all happening, they have to compete with other companies for resources, consumers, some companies can re-brand themselves, restructure, or merge with other companies to create something completely new. Some companies over time suffer from old age and become antiquated or they become infected by viruses, such as corruption, or their own system begins to attack them, greedily consuming precious resources from the body, like a cancer. Does the Unions ring a bell? But don't fret, the beauty about Capitalism is that if a company falls a new one will rise to take its place, sort of like how mammals rose-up and took the place of dinosaurs when the opportunity arose. It took a while for life to bounce back on planet Earth, but it did, and did it!
Think of the government as the sun and the private sector as the ozone, take away the ozone and the organism dies from radiation. Make sense?
Compare that to how socialism works.

Funny, I feel that way about Gov't these days, old and antiquated, not meeting the needs of the people. Not doing for the people. Capitalism is another word for "legal greed".

IMHO wrote:

<quoted text>Funny, I feel that way about Gov't these days, old and antiquated, not meeting the needs of the people. Not doing for the people. Capitalism is another word for "legal greed".

Government will disappoint you every time. I can do for myself and get it done faster and have the experience and the benefit of knowledge from doing it. And you can't get that from government help.

As far as greed goes, it can be both good and bad.

Hum. I need to correct something: Americans are giving GM 458,000 dollars a day in bankruptcy money, not to subsidize each job.

IMHO wrote:

GM is not a company that can look beyond its' arrogance. The only car that appeals somewhat to me that they produce, is the HHR. Comes with a $22,000 price??? To think the Malibu can compete with the designs of Toyota or Hyandai, is pathetic. Looks like nothing more than a re-designed Cavalier. So OLD hat. They get rid of Saturn, which is very modern and fits the future of the auto industry, but they keep the OLD boring standard Buick. How can a company got towards the future, but keep building the same old boring cars, like the Impala, or the Buick? I don't care to drive what my grandmama drove. I want to drive something different, something new. I want good gas mileage, and something smaller. Our generation cares about fuel efficiency and size. Our generation cares about the planet and being less wasteful and reckless.

Next time you're allowed out of your parents basement, stop by a Chevy dealer and look at a Malibu. Nothing at all like a Cavalier, full of cutting edge technology, at least for this price class. Glad you think Saturn was so special, but it never made any money for GM, hence yesterdays Ch11 filing. Buick is selling very well in China and will be making money for GM, which is the general idea, no? You need to stop regurgitating the same old stuff that your parents used to think.
By the way, I'm a very satisfied long time owner of some Japanese cars and being that they last so long I won't be in the market for a new one any time soon, but if I were, I wouldn't hesitate to check out a Malibu or a Ford Fusion.

IMHO wrote:

<quoted text>Funny, I feel that way about Gov't these days, old and antiquated, not meeting the needs of the people. Not doing for the people. Capitalism is another word for "legal greed".

Our government was not created to meet the needs of the people. It was created to ensure that we have the freedom to meet our own needs. The United States Constitution was written as a series of checks and balances that would keep government out of our lives. The lying, thieving politicians have failed us by ignoring the oath they took to uphold the Constitution. True capitalism is a victim of government intervention.

akm wrote:

A bunch of greedy elitists using our money (the common citizen) to live a luxurious lifestyle. GM gets exactly what it deserves but I have a feeling that all the greedy execs and CEOs will find other grossly high paying jobs to satiate their lust for money

...100% CORRECT!!...The working "stiffs" always get "It" in the end. If the CEO's got "IT" like they did their blind greed would end. It's like war, Many people die before the person who started it pays.

Now the Tax Slaves are in this for $50 Billion.

If we wouldn't have begged our Politicians and their UAW Masters to take a $1,000,000 bribe for every single UAW Worker......all 50,000 of them, we would have stopped the never ending drain on our children's future for the same $50,000,000,000.

We just aren't smart enough, or loving enough, to put our children first so we all must embrace our failure.

Americans need not worry about the Taliban or Al-Quidea. Corperate terrorists in America will destroy it for them.